Resolved AZ - Pima Co, HispFem Skeletal UP9101, 18-30, mouse ring, Jul'11 - Presumed identified

Donjeta · Aug 16, 2011

https://identifyus.org/cases/9101
Incomplete skeletal remains found by Border Patrol in remote area of the desert.
She is 18-30 year old and about 62 inches.

Items found:
1 sweater, 1 pair of white panties, 1 pair of plaid shorts, 1 blue bra, and 1 blue tank top.
Three rings: 1 yellow metal, 1 yellow metal with clear stone, 1 yellow metal with mouse face; 1 cellphone SIM card, 1 backpack, 2 Mexican coins.

Someone might remember this ring, it's quite distinctive:
https://identifyus.org/medias/show/11146

summer_breeze · Jan 28, 2012

Morgan Lucero - Missing from Pima County in about the right time frame. And just shy of the estimated minimum age.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145095&highlight=Morgan+Lucero

Also, Morgan's NamUs profile lists her as SEX=MALE, so this may be why remains found in the same county as a missing person have not been ruled out yet?

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/case_report_html/13361

What do you think?

Donjeta · Jan 28, 2012

There is not much to go on ruling her or anybody else out at the moment. Neither Morgan or the UID have had DNA analyzed yet and the UID's dentals are partial only, mostly postmortem losses and Morgan has no dental info available at the moment.

I don't understand the lag in sending the DNA samples in to be analyzed. I know it costs some but getting a DNA hit is their best chance of identifying very partial skeletal remains. Maybe they think it's someone crossing the border from Mexico and who wouldn't be in their databases?

Ajo is about 2.5 hours from Tucson.

If you e-mail them about Morgan could you ask about the SIM card? I wonder if they got anywhere with it.

Does she have any known ties to Mexico?

summer_breeze · Jan 28, 2012

I've emailed the Pima County Sheriff's office and the NamUs #9101 Case Manager.

I've also asked that Morgan's NamUs profile please be corrected.

Morgan should be ruled out for this UID, if nothing else.

Donjeta, I did ask about the SIM card also, but it has been reported in MSM that Morgan's cell phone activity was a dead end.

Donjeta · Jan 28, 2012

Please let us know if they reply.

I would like to know if the SIM card with the UID was from USA or possibly from a Mexican phone company. But maybe it was too decayed to be of use. Most people's SIM cards would be full of clues to their identity.

summer_breeze · Jan 30, 2012

--- On Sat, 1/28/12, Bruce Anderson <Bruce.Anderson@pima.gov> wrote:

From: Bruce Anderson <Bruce.Anderson@pima.gov>
Subject: NamUs MP 13361
To: <redacted>, "Erin Gibson" <Erin.Gibson@sheriff.pima.gov>
Date: Saturday, January 28, 2012, 12:36 PM

Hello XXXX. Thanks for using NamUs. Without either dental or DNA information on Morgan, there is little I can do in terms of a comparison. However, our young Jane Doe (NamUs UP 9101) likely died months or years prior to Morgan's disappearance. But to be sure, Morgan's dental or DNA profiles are needed.

Dr Bruce Anderson
Pima County Office of the Medical Examiner

summer_breeze · Jan 30, 2012

I have not heard back from the Pima County Sheriff's Office. Yet.

summer_breeze · Apr 26, 2012

Morgan Lucero's NamUs profile has been removed. I've sent an email to the Pima County Sheriff's Office to inquire as to whether she has been found safe! (Wouldn't that be wonderful??)

I'll post if I hear anything back.

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases...ort_html/13361

summer_breeze · May 5, 2012

And Morgan's NamUs profile is back now.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/13361/0/

hayaletcatcher · Apr 20, 2015

summer_breeze said:
And Morgan's NamUs profile is back now.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/13361/0/

Morgan's profile has gone again. (Or is hidden?)

This UID now has DNA marked as complete and two rule outs-

Exclusions
The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
Olga Mora Lopez 1972 Arizona
Shelda Yenter 1965 Colorado

vasportsmom · Apr 20, 2015

Another WSer just posted about this on a FB chat and I had that ring. I purchased it in the early 90's. My best friend and I each had one. She kept most everything from high school so I'm messaging her to see if she still has hers or at least has pics.

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carbuff · Apr 20, 2015

Looks more like it's hidden for some reason.

hayaletcatcher · Jan 29, 2017

This Namus has now been removed https://identifyus.org/en/home/error?reason_action=show&reason_controller=home

hayaletcatcher · Jan 30, 2017

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/event/...s-human-remains-in-the-of-picture-id460247674

Pima Co's work on identifying remains from the desert (skeletons shown so maybe nsfw?)

jacobd83 · Jan 31, 2017

It will not allow me too view the UID"s NamUs profile.... When I click on the link it says that I do not have permission to view the page

Shin Masamura · Feb 1, 2017

Just as a random thought, how is Pima County not front and center in an immigration disaster. Has anyone seen the amount of UID's in that county in the last decade or 15 years. Astounding.

watergirl62 · Feb 2, 2017

Every border county is front and center. Astounding that they can identify them. Hopefully this means a family with answers.

Onfortuneswheel · Mar 19, 2018

Looks like there has been a permission error since at least January 2017. Can this case be moved to Identified?

carbuff · Mar 22, 2021

Still no Namus page visible--presumed identified?

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