TRANSCRIPTS of the Interrogation Videos of Jodi Arias

Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation
Video 6

Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 6 - YouTube


JA = Jodi Arias
FO = Female Officer


Transcribed by TxJan1971 at yahoo dot com

Setting:
Jodi is in the interrogation room, handcuffed behind her back, wearing orange prison garb.

01:34
JA: (Sighs)

01:54
JA: (Jodi starts singing)

“Just remember in the winter
Far beneath the bitter snow
Lies the seed…”

03:20
(Jodi leans over and scratches her head on side of the table)

04:09
Female Officer (FO) enters the room.
FO: All right. Do you wanna’ go ahead and stand up for me. As I take these cuffs off, you just go ahead and put your hands down at the waist, okay? I know these, especially these types of cuffs, aren’t the most comfortable.

4:35
JA: Do you think they’re really designed for comfort?

4:36
FO: Nope. They’re not. Okay. You’re not going to give us any problems being out of the cuffs.
You really don’t look like the type that would.

JA: (Unintelligible response)



05:12
(FO gets recorder from back table and places it in front of her on the table)

05:28
FO: Okay. Today’s date is July 16, and my name is Detective Rachel Blaney, umm…and I’m here with Jodi Arias. Is that how you say your last name?

05:39
JA: Arias.

FO: Okay. I’m sorry.

05:42
JA: That’s okay

05:43
FO: This is just formality, umm… and this is, you know, if I have to, you know, write up a report of what we talked about, at least so I know word for word what you said and there’s no mistakes. Okay, so it’s for your own protection or good that they we record it.

05:58
FO: Umm… and before we go any further I need to read you your Miranda Rights again, just to make sure that you understand.

FO: You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand?

06:09
JA: Yes

06:10
FO: Anything you say may be used against you in court. Do you understand?
06:12
JA: Yes.

06:13
FO: You have the right to the presence of an attorney before and during any questioning. Do you understand?

06:17
JA: Yes.

06:18
FO: If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you free of charge, before any questioning, if you want. Do you understand that?

06:23
JA: Mm hmm.

06:24
FO: Okay. The reason that I wanted to talk with you this morning -- there’s a couple of reasons actually. Umm…I have been privy to the investigation umm…and all of the evidence in this case umm… and to your conversation with Detective Flores yesterday and there’s…there’s really no…Umm…let me say this. It’s obvious to me that, you know, you’re not umm… You’re not our typical suspect. You know, you come from a good home, a good family. Your parents obviously care about you, umm that was evident, you know, when I talked to them yesterday. Umm…and you’re a bright girl – umm probably more intelligent than you were letting on yesterday, and there’s no question in my mind or any of the other investigators minds that you were the person that took Travis’ life, but what I need to know, what I’d like to know, and give you the opportunity to do is determine whether, you know, you’re a cold blooded, cold hearted murderer who slaughtered this guy or are you somebody that got caught up in circumstances and things got out of control, because I think that is what happened. Honestly! In looking at everything and all of the facts and in talking to people, you know, I think in every person that anybody could be capable of harming another person. I think it’s in our nature and, in general, most people suppress that. Umm…but I think given the right circumstances and, you know, the right time and the right place, anybody could be, you know, capable of harming another person. I see that on a regular basis. Umm…what I generally see are the, you know, the cold hearted ruthless types. What I don’t see very often, Jodi, are people like yourself that are intelligent, and spiritual, and caring, and umm…so I tend to believe that it was an incident or circumstance if you will. Umm…it looks as if, you know, this guy, Travis, umm…you know befriended you, you got into this relationship and it certainly looks to me like he took advantage of your generosity and your kindness. Umm…you know one of the other detectives had described him to you as a player. Umm…and I don’t think that that’s very far off from everything that I’ve seen, and I don’t think there’s a woman out there that hasn’t been umm…treated badly or taken advantage of by men like that, and I’m hoping, because you come from a good family and because you have, you know, a decent background, I’m hoping that you’ll be smart about things and make some good choices for yourself to help better your situation. When this hits the news, umm…and it will, it will go to the media, do you want to be portrayed as that cold blooded, cold hearted murderer because the media loves that. That’s not, you know, that won’t be our words or their words when they do a press release but that’s what the media will take a look at the facts and that’s what they’ll portray it as or do you want to be portrayed as a person that didn’t mean to have any of this happen – it just got out of hand and you’re remorseful? You know which way do you want to go? How do you want to portray yourself?

(No response from Jodi)

10:48
FO: You’re a businesswoman, is that correct?

(No response from Jodi)

10:51
FO: Okay. And you have a couple of different businesses going, Right?

(No response from Jodi)



10:57
FO: So you’re a smart girl, Jodi, a smart woman. Umm…you got to have a lot on the ball to be, you know, your own businesswoman and balancing everything the way you do because it sounds like you had a lot going on and a lot of juggling and balancing. You’re obviously very organized, well read, umm…

11:20
JA: I would say well read but not organized.

11:23
FO: Not organized? Why so?

11:25
JA: Umm…I just…I procrastinate, so things… papers pile up and things don’t get filed on time and umm…I lose stuff and I find it later when I don’t need it anymore. You know, when I do need it I can’t find it.

11:39
FO: Okay.

11:40
JA: Just general stuff like that.

11:41
FO: Well, maybe you’re not as organized as I had thought so certainly…

11:45
JA: Well, I try, I mean I go through these periods where like today is devoted to organization, and then I’ll get organized and it will be that way for a little while and I’ll kind of let it slide and then I’ll have to go back and clean up again…

11:55
FO: Mmm hmm…all right. So, I think that you know the reason you’re here is I think that you should have at least one more shot at the opportunity to do the right thing. You know you say that you’re spiritual – those are my words not yours but that’s certainly what I got out of you know reading and looking at everything that umm…you have some sort of relationship with God or some sort of deep spirituality, and so did Travis, and umm…it sounds like, you know, you cared about what umm…Travis’ family thought of him umm maybe what they thought of you. I don’t know whether you ever met them.

12:45
JA: I met his grandmother.

12:46
FO: Okay.

12:47
JA: A few times.
 

Attachments

  • Transcription - Video _6 - Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation.doc
    70 KB · Views: 16
Transcript of Video 6 continued...

12:47
FO: Were they good people?

12:49
JA: Yeah. Wonderful, and umm…I did meet his family at his services but I saw some of his sisters and he talked about them a lot and he talked about how proud he was of all of his brothers and sisters because they come from a rough background but they’ve all done really well.

13:05
FO: Mmm hmm. I would imagine that keeping all of this in…I can only imagine, because I’ve never been there myself, but I can only imagine that keeping all of this in is tearing you apart inside. It’s not hard to tell that, you know. You have portrayed yourself as being very strong, but you can see it in your eyes, Jodi.

13:31
JA: It’s not like, you know…it’s not that I detect… My dad said that Detective Flores told him that I was just cold yesterday, and it’s not that I’m cold. I’m just resolute, and it’s not that I haven’t cried because that’s all I’ve done for the last month.

13:47
FO: Mmm hmmm

13:48
JA: You know, and I go to work part-time and at my job I need to be a happy, cheery person, so I’ve got to suppress all of that and put on an act while I’m on the clock.

13:57
FO: Mmm hmm.

13:57
JA: and if I’m going to get any more clients for my business I’ve got to be an attractive person in my personality so it’s … it’s not … it’s not like I haven’t been grieving him since I heard about him.

14:13
FO: Mmm hmm. Well, you know you have an image. I understand that you have an image to uphold and you have to portray, you know you’re a together, savvy woman and not somebody who is falling apart so that’s understandable.

14:30
JA: I fall apart when people aren’t looking.
It’s at night and I go to sleep. Travis always used to call me, not always but very frequently so that’s the hardest part is when I go to sleep at night and if he wasn’t calling then I’d just call him and sometimes I’d just call anyway just to hear his voice mail.

14:54
FO: So let me go back to… you know the choices that you have because again, there’s no doubt in anybody’s mind what happened that day. There’s no doubt that you were involved that day that Travis died.

15:12
JA: Listen, I know that I wasn’t involved in T death.

15:15
FO: Okay.

15:16
JA: umm… and…

15:17
FO: But wait. Hold on. What you need to decide is do you want to be portrayed as that cold blooded killer,

15:25
JA: Well, that’s what I was getting at.

15:28
FO: or do you want to be portrayed as somebody that was taken advantage of, and umm…you know things just was headed in one direction and it wasn’t or I… I don’t know exactly the circumstances ‘cause I wasn’t there but I would certainly think that it’s to your benefit to appear as this is something that happened, you didn’t plan it, it was, you know, umm…it was a heated moment and you didn’t’ mean to hurt him, ‘cause you didn’t mean to hurt him, did you?

16:00
JA: I’ve hurt him very much emotionally and I never meant to hurt him because he said that more than the death of his father.

16:07
FO: and I believe that. How are you going to come clean with yourself between you and God umm…if you can’t even look his family in the face and show remorse? I don’t think that you’re a bad person. I don’t think you meant any of this to happen. I think that things got out of control and you didn’t know what to do and you panicked and I would certainly like your parents to see that, your friends to see that, instead of the cold hearted killer that the evidence is screaming to show, and this is you know at a certain point you got to' do what’s right, you know, you got to make things right for yourself. ‘cause otherwise it’s gonna’ eat inside of you. You’re gonna’ be sitting in that cell with all of this churning inside of you and it’s going to eat you up.

17:16
FO: Just 'cause I’m a cop doesn’t mean that I don’t care, you know, about humanity and people. I’m not sitting here judging you. I’m trying to help you out. Trying to give you a chance to make things right. You know show the families that you do have some remorse. You know Apologize for the things you’ve done if that makes you feel better, whatever it is. But when you continue to deny, deny, deny when it’s obvious that that’s not the case you appear to be the cold blooded killer. You know there’s … and the media is going to feed off of that. When this goes to trial, the media’s there. It’s not kept a secret. Do you want to be out there like the OJ Simpson’s, because nobody felt sorry for him? You know, nobody respected him afterwards, even though he maintained his innocence. How do you want to be portrayed? Do you want to be portrayed as the person that you are, you know, a decent person who had some tough times and, you know just didn’t make the right choices at the time, or do you want to be portrayed as a person who doesn’t care about anybody or anything?

19:00
JA: You know of course I don’t want to be portrayed as a cold blooded murderer. That’s…

19:05
FO: I believe that. I believe that umm…everybody…everybody wants to tell the truth because to keep that lie in tears you up emotionally, physically, mentally. I see that over and over and over again with people, and I believe that you don’t want to be portrayed in the negative light that I’ve already… and I’m not making that stuff up. I meant that’s just reality, Jodi. That’s the way our society works. That’s the way this world works, and things are going to start moving real fast here for you. This is kind of a pause, you know before things start getting heavy. This is an opportunity to help yourself out. When the jury looks at it, those are the things they are going to be mulling around in their mind when they decide what type of sentence to hand out or when they make a recommendation to the judge. Those are the sorts of the things that turn a jury and the jury’s sometimes can be fickle, but I’ve never seen a case with so much concrete hard evidence. We don’t need you to tell us anything. I’m doing this for you. Arizona’s case goes no matter what. They got a rock solid case. So what you say is basically irrelevant to their case, not irrelevant, but umm…it’s not going to make it any better for them.
But it can certainly help you out.

21:23
JA: How can it help me? I mean how can what I tell you today affect the media?

21:28
FO: Umm…you take control of this situation as much as you can and paint whatever kind of picture you want to paint of yourself. Nobody is going to believe that you didn’t do it after they see the evidence. It’s just it is what it is, but it’s a matter of do you want to take control of your situation and paint the picture of who you are, ‘cause you’re the only one that knows that, or do you want the media to…to take the evidence, all of the facts and the information and paint their own picture of you, and as smart as you are, you know as well as I do that the media doesn’t like to paint warm and fuzzy pictures. They would much rather paint the vicious cold blooded killer because that sells. Am I right?

22:22
JA: Mmm hmm.

22:27
FO: So…do you want to control your situation, paint your own picture, or do you want to let somebody else do that for you?

22:37
JA: I don’t feel like I have any control over what the media says anyway.

22:41
FO: Well, you do, to a certain degree. You can have, you can have the opportunity to tell your side of the story. You know, was it just a matter of umm…like I said, umm…this guy, Travis, building some sort of what you thought was some sort of relationship you know were you hoping for marriage? Because I heard a lot of talk about you know possibility of marriage and I know that that is umm you know the cornerstone of your faith is marriage and family. Is this something that you were hoping for? Was he leading you down that path? Umm… you know did he take advantage of you? Umm…was there, were there promises made that were broken? Did he betray your trust in some way? I don’t know. Only you know that, but certainly, if that was the situation, they would look at you in a better light than if you just went in there and just killed the guy just ‘cause… just ‘cause you’re a cold hearted person. You know the reasons why are what’s gonna’ give you better portrayal …a better light that you’re portrayed in. That’s why the reasons why are so important to you and that’s how you can take control. When you leave umm, you know, Siskiyou County and go back to Arizona, which eventually you will, whether you fight the extradition or not that’s just kind of a…

24:23
JA: inevitability?

24:26
FO: Yeah. Umm…it’s gonna’ happen eventually. You’re not gonna’ have the opportunity to do this again. I’m certainly not going to go back to Arizona. You won’t have the opportunity, and this shot will be gone.

24:48
JA: Is this your role, though? I mean, you’re a detective?

24:50
FO: Mmm hmm.

24:51
JA: Oh.

24:52
FO: This is our jurisdiction, umm Siskiyou County, so you know part of this investigation if you will, is on us. I’ve taken an interest umm…in this case. I saw you and I read all this information and I’m like, Man, you know she’s…she’s not the typical person that we see in here.

25:18
JA: Can I ask you a couple questions?

25:21
FO: Sure

25:21
JA: Umm…not personal questions. Umm…I know I understand you took some of my stuff yesterday.

25:27
FO: Mmm hmm.

25:28
JA: Where does all that go, to Arizona?
 
Transcript of Video 6 conclusion.

25:29
FO: Umm…it’ll be transferred to Arizona. It’s held in evidence. There’s a list of everything that was taken, and a copy of that was left at each umm…

25:41
JA: location…

25:41
FO: at each location.

25:42
JA: It was a carbon copy so my parents couldn’t read it all and my grandparents couldn’t read everything. They told me some of the things and some of the things were like my camera, for example, which is fine and I understand that. My concern is other people. For example, I’m a wedding photographer and I had a wedding on Friday, and umm (Jodi starts crying/whimpering) I feel bad for Bryan and his wife Katie because those are their wedding pictures. That’s all they have of their wedding, and I just want to know when they’ll be able to get their wedding pictures.

26:09
FO: I don’t know when. I don’t know how. You know, this could go on for quite awhile.

26:13
FO: That’s the only thing they have to remember the day.

26:15
FO: They’re not going to destroy the wedding pictures. They’re not going to get rid of them or anything like that.

26:20
JA: You know, and I just take pride in my work and I guess I’m not going to have a chance to edit them and make them really beautiful. They already turned out really good, but, you know, and Photoshop has all kinds of neat effects and they turn out like magic, so that won’t be the case this time but at least the hard files are there for them and you know, if they’re not gonna’ get them forever and ever it’s gonna’ suck for them, but as long as they get them eventually.

26:46
FO: They’ll get them eventually.

26:48
JA: and also my…

26:49
FO: I think that, you know, go ahead…



26:51
JA: Umm…my sister, I don’t know what her problem is, I mean she’s far less messed up than I am, I guess, but she’s…she’s in a program right now in (unintelligible city) Falls umm…for…until the end of August, rehabilitating from something, and my mom, we write her, you know we only get to talk to her once a week and my mom was going to send pictures, because I have on my… my umm…external drive I have a bunch of pictures of her and I that we were just doing this with - just taking pictures of each other on her prom night because I helped her do her hair and I helped her, you know, take pictures and then I dropped her off and she just wanted some of those to have because she’s all done and glamorous –and I did a photo shoot with my little brother and they turned out really good and she wanted those pictures, too. She doesn’t have access to any of them now and those are all family treasures, and I did that, of course, because it’s for them, and you know, but umm…I would have made her a CD, but my CD ROM just wasn’t working right, and I didn’t get around to making it because I didn’t have the proper tools to do it, and she just wants those to mail to Angela.

28:17
FO: Well, see these are the sorts of things that you know paint the picture of a good, decent person where things just went a little wrong, you know you showing so much concern and care.

28:27
JA: Do you know what happened to my journals, too?

28:31
FO: Umm you know I wasn’t there when they took…

28:33
JA: I know they said they took one, but I don’t know if they took my other ones.

28:36
FO: Where were your other ones at?

28:37
JA: In my fireproof safe.

28:39
FO: Okay. I’m not sure. There’s a …they have a hard copy you know an actual copy umm an original copy umm…that…

28:49
JA: Umm… if you want my journals it documents the entire time starting from when I moved to Arizona up until 2 or 3 days ago.

28:55
FO: Where is that safe at? Is that…

28:58
JA: It’s in my bedroom they said they went through it (unintelligible).

29:00
FO: Well, then if there’s anything…

29:01
JA: I don’t know if they felt it was relevant, but…

29:04
FO: You know…

29:04
JA: I’m sure there’s…Travis got a lot of ink in my journals. I don’t know. That doesn’t matter now because I know you guys think what you think but umm...

29:11
FO: It’s not… you know, the job of the detectives, umm…any detective is to determine, you know, what happened whether a person umm…you know is there is evidence that would clear you, evidence that would convict you, etc. We’re totally neutral going in, and it’s not a matter of, you know our opinion or what we think, umm…it’s a matter of to kind of look at all the evidence and knowing, and,
you know, I think you’re not grasping the reality of this situation and umm…hearing what you’re concerns are, you should be concerned for yourself right now. You should be fighting for yourself. This is … this is not going to go away anytime soon for you, Jodi. You know, you’re a young woman, just starting your life. You had a lot going for you. You should be fighting for yourself right now.

30:11
JA: There’s really nothing to fight for, if I fight. It just makes me look worse.

30:16
FO: If you fight…

30:17
JA: And if…if I give you some false confession that just makes it look just as bad. So there’s really not…

30:22
FO: No! We don’t want a false confession. That is absolutely not what anybody ever wants, ever! Umm…I was just hoping to give you the opportunity to show the world, to show the community, to show the jury, to show Travis’ family that you do have a heart, that you do care, that you are a good person and maybe things went askew that day. I’m giving you scenarios with what happened that day because I wasn’t there. I don’t know the emotions that led up to it. There was obviously a lot of emotion. That’s very clear. There was a lot of emotion that day and what happened and so I’m giving…I’m trying… it’s kind of like pulling teeth here. I’m trying to give you the opportunity to help yourself, umm…to show the world, to show the community, to show Travis’ family that you do have remorse that you are a good person and that doesn’t benefit me in any way. I get no benefit out of this. My job pays the same whether I’m sitting here or at home, whatever. I’m just…I was trying to give you that opportunity. I asked if I could talk to you today to do that. It makes no difference to me, not personally, but it sure can make a difference for you. You let this eat at you and it’s going to destroy you or change you in a way that you wouldn’t want. There comes a time in somebody’s life, there’s always a pinnacle in somebody’s life where you have the opportunity to define who you are. Do you want the murder of Travis to define who you are or do you want to take control of that and do it yourself? Everybody makes mistakes, some bigger than others and I think this is the time in your life. I’m trying to tell you, this is the time, Jodi. This is the time to take control more than you’ve ever done before and at least show the people that you love and care about that you have remorse and that you have a heart because when they sit there and see somebody who is just stone cold and saying they didn’t do it when it’s clear to everybody that you did, that’s what they’re going to see is a stone cold person. This is your opportunity to change that.

End of Video 6
 
Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation

Video #7



Error 502 (Server Error)!!1


JA = Jodi Arias
DF = Detective Flores
FO = Female Officer​


Transcribed by TxJan1971 at yahoo dot com

00:21
FO: You can’t change what happened. You can’t go back and undo it. It’s a done deal. But hopefully, you’re smart enough to realize that you can have a little bit of control of how you’re portrayed. I don’t think that you’re a bad person. I don’t think that you meant to hurt him. I think that you really cared about him and that you loved him and that’s why there was so much emotion in that day. I’m not sure of the circumstances, the conversations that led up to it. I can only see the result. I think that things got a little heated. You, you know, were angry or upset or disappointed or betrayed, whatever the emotion was, and things got out of control.

01:22
JA: We both have betrayed each other, but it was so long ago, you know. The last time we even talked about marriage on a serious level was when we were still dating over a year ago, and the last time he proposed to me, once…He proposed to me a lot of times, but he wasn’t always serious. He just kind of said it, “marry me” you know, as a joke. Umm…

01:43
FO: But how did that make you feel – when he said “marry me” as a joke? I mean, did you want it?

01:45
JA: Not… not after we had broken up. It was kind of like laughs. It was really kind that he would joke like that, umm and we would laugh, you know. I took it as a compliment because it’s when I did something that maybe in his eyes he saw me as a good person, and so he’d be like wow this is a good girl, marry me. It was more of a compliment, it wasn’t a serious proposal. Umm… you know, so marriage, I just…As much as I love Travis, I just have always…there’s something inside that says he’s not the guy I’m gonna’ marry.

02:13
FO: So then what was it? What was it that left all of this? I mean there’s gotta’ be something,
‘cause I honestly don’t believe that, you know, that you’re cold hearted and that you…you would just go and kill somebody on a whim. That doesn’t fit your profile. So what was it that led up to that? You know, you tell me. You tell them. You tell, you know, Travis’ family. What was it that, you know, pushed you to your limit? I’m just trying to fill in the holes there, I’m just kinda guessing about the emotions. You know what was it that would make you, you know, so angry or upset?

03:03
FO: And if you’re smart, you’ll realize that, you know, (sigh) you’re not gonna’ get a whole lot of other chances to do this -- probably none.
Once the wheels start turning, they move real fast, and you will be out of control then. Do you want to have control over your destiny, so to speak?

03:33
FO: You know what about your spirituality and your beliefs with God? You know if you continue to lie to yourself and all of us, that’s one thing but God knows. He knows what’s in your heart.

03:59
FO: Doesn’t the Mormon religion umm…want you to repent for what you’ve done? You know, I’m a spiritual person myself and I don’t think that I would want that, you know, inside of me. I wouldn’t want all of the ugliness of the lies inside of me.

04:39
FO: I’m not gonna’ sit here all day you know…

04:42
(Jodi reaches for her water bottle and takes a drink)

04:43
FO: and try to convince you to do something umm for yourself if you’re not willing to help yourself, but I just wanted to give you that chance this morning.

05:53
FO: It’s clear. It’s crystal clear to anybody who looks at this case. There is no doubt in my mind. There’s no doubt in any of the investigators’ minds that you are the person responsible for Travis’ death. It’s just a matter of how you want to portray yourself now, Jodi.
Are you the cold blooded killer or are you a victim of circumstance? Was it in the heat of passion, or was it calculated and planned out and executed? Which one is it going to be? That’s how you can control things for yourself right now.

(Silence)

05:53
FO: I don’t think you’re the type of person that can sit there during a trial and see Travis’ family sitting over there and continue to maintain that lie in yourself without it tearing you up.

06:08
JA: I don’t think I could either.

06:12
FO: You have an opportunity. You can’t bring him back. You can’t bring his life back, but you can at least make things right within yourself, and that, ultimately, will probably help out your situation.

(Silence)

06:47
FO: Nobody wants to believe, even, you know, your friends I’m sure, I haven’t talked to any of your friends but I know that your family doesn’t want to believe that you’re that person. Help them understand what happened and why so that they, they’re not stuck with that…that image of you.

(Silence)

07:22
JA: The only image they’re going to be stuck with is Jodi in a big orange suit.

07:29
FO: Yeah, but does Jodi have a heart or is it cold and ice?

07:33
JA: They know it’s …what my heart is like. They raised me. They’ve lived around me forever.

07:41
FO: How about the rest of the people that just know you umm as far as image – that doesn’t know you personally? Do you care about that?

07:49
JA: I care.

07:50
FO: How about Travis’ family?

07:52
JA: I care very much about Travis’ family and I can’t alter the way they think. They hate me regardless.

07:58
FO: It’s true that their umm… their feelings are probably always going to be negative about you umm… you know you took their son’s life. They can never get over that.

08:08
JA: I did not take Travis’ life.

08:10
FO: It’s clear to everybody what happened, but I was hoping that you were smart enough to realize the situation, the reality of the situation and want to help yourself out, whether you want to maintain the charade which isn’t going to get you anywhere or whether you want to do the right thing.

(Silence)

08:40
FO: You’re the one that’s got to live with yourself, you know. You’re the one that’s got to look those people in the eye.

08:49
JA: I have one more question and it’s not going to have a thing listening to what you’re saying; it’s unrelated, umm…but when they took my purse I had $240 in cash and umm…from what I understand, this thing over in the jail, they…you have money on your book so you can get things like shampoo or whatever, I don’t know what I would even need there, umm…but what happens to my cash?

09:13
FO: Well, it’s… first of all, they count it all out and document it so there’s no question of, you know, what was there. Umm…I can… I don’t know what the procedure is…

09:23
JA: I know it’s not really any…it’s not your area or responsibility, but who do I talk to about that because my parents don’t have money to just keep doling out and making collect calls there all the time or whatever, so?

09:34
FO: Well, I can certainly talk with umm…the detectives and put in a request for you, and I’ll do that. I don’t go back on my words, umm and I, you know, I don’t know how much longer, you know, you want to sit here and listen to me talk, I was kind of hoping to kind of drill something into your head and wake you up and show you how you can help yourself.

10:05
JA: Maybe you’re giving me more credit than I deserve for being smart…

10:10
FO: I don’t think so

10:12
JA: …but I just don’t see how any of that could help.

10:19
FO: What if it could? Wouldn’t you want to do everything you could to help yourself?

10:25
JA: I don’t …I think that my situation is hopeless and I don’t think that I can help myself.

10:34
JA: (Whispers) I’m sorry.

10:35
FO: Not sorry to me.

JA: (Whispers) I’m just sorry…
 

Attachments

  • Transcription - Video _7 - Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation.doc
    61.5 KB · Views: 12
Transcript of Video 7 conclusion.

10:42
FO: Are you sorry for what happened to him?

10:44
JA: Of course I am. That’s awful what happened to him. He didn’t show me any pictures but he showed me the carpet.

10:59
FO: It was pretty horrific.

11:01
JA: You know Travis was very strong. I watched him work out a couple of times. It’s super intense. My dad has worked out all my life. He’s been a body builder, sort of, not professional. He’s just always been really big. I’ve seen him work out, but I’ve never seen anybody work out like Travis and it’s…he’s just…You know, a couple of times, he was really into UFC and a couple times he would show me some wrestling moves, and it…like…I was just powerless, like there was no way out of it.

11:34
FO: Well, I tell you what, I’m going to take a break for a couple of minutes. Umm…I see you still got some water. I was going to give you some more water.

11:43
JA: Yeah, if you could bring one more that would be nice.

11:46
FO: Take a minute to think about what I said, and umm…I’ll leave you alone while I do that…while you do that.

11:57
(FO leaves room)

12:07
(Jodi takes a drink of water)

12:12
(Jodi gets up and sits under the table)
(Jodi pushes the chair out of her way a little and rearranges the position of the trash can)
(Jodi appears to be picking hairs off the chair and dropping them to the floor)
(Sound of Jodi crying)

16:03
(FO reenters the room)

16:07
Jodi gets up from the floor)

FO: I got you some more water

16:18
FO: Jodi, I…I’m really confused. I… maybe I did have the wrong picture of you. You know, all of this time that you and I have been talking and I got information from your other interview, you are talking about insignificant things at this point. You’re talking about money, you’re talking about material things, you’re talking about everything but

16:48
JA: I’m just talking about (unintelligible) people I care about.

16:49
FO: you’re talking about everything but how bad you feel about Travis. You only respond to my questions specifically about Travis.

17:01
JA: If I murdered Travis, I would be very remorseful.

17:04
FO: I think that I’ve gotten the wrong picture of you. I think that, you know, maybe I was wrong. Maybe you are that cold blooded person that they’re trying to portray, and umm you know, I’m just really confused. I just…at this point, you know, maybe you’re right, maybe there isn’t anything you can do to help yourself umm… you know. . Maybe I was wrong. Maybe you’re not as intelligent as I thought you were. Maybe I was wrong. What do you think should happen to the person that murdered Travis?

17:51
JA: Umm…you know I’ve never been one for an eye for an eye but they took his life, and even the book of Mormon says that…umm…that…that that calls for the life of the person who took his life.

18:11
FO: Do you think that’s the path you’re going down right now and it’s inevitable so why fight it?

18:17
JA: Umm…I’m not sure... kind of… I’m not sure. I don’t know where I’m going.

18:27
FO: So tell me this, after looking at all the evidence and what I think is crystal clear, if you didn’t kill Travis, then who did?

18:47
JA: I…he was private about a lot of aspects of his life.

18:49
FO: Mmm hmm.

18:50
JA: He told me some things. Some things I got from some of his, you know, Facebook account, email account, or My Space or whatever, because I have passwords to those. Umm…but I don’t know like, he would get occasionally he would get solicitations but and he would always respond not to not answer the solicitation but to call the person out, and I don’t know if anything ever became of those. I don’t know. I know his tires were slashed. I don’t… I don’t know.

19:32
FO: Maybe…maybe you weren’t the person that did it. Maybe…maybe you were just physically there when it happened and somebody else did it. I mean, I guess, you know that’s a possibility. If that’s the case, help us out here. Help yourself out. I don’t know what else to do for you, Jodi.
I’m at the end of my rope. You’re not going to get a lot of people that are trying to help you out along the way beyond this point. If you didn’t do it, then who did, because everything is pointing to you, not just pointing to you but you know screaming that Jodi killed Travis, and I thought that I could come in here and talk to you and talk some you know sense into you and get you to kind of help yourself out. You don’t need to help our case out. You don’t need to help their case out. That’s a slam dunk.

20:39
JA: I know he showed me.

20:46
FO: And what I’m hearing is somebody who doesn’t give a rap about what happened. I’m hearing somebody who is worried about money, your appearance, everything about you. I don’t hear anything about Travis, unless you’re specifically asked. How do you think that looks?

21:04
JA: Listen, I don’t care so much about…

21:07
FO: No, you listen! You are not grasping the reality here, Jodi. You know, you’re worried about wedding pictures and you know all this other stuff that is really insignificant

21:22
JA: Listen, my life is over. Travis’ life is over. I’m sorry about Travis. I didn’t take his life.

21:32
FO: All right. Well, I guess I was wrong.

21:34
JA: The reason I cared about those other things is because those people still have lives and I care about those people and I just, they don’t know where their stuff is, you know? I happen to be in a position with their stuff, and so…

21:46
FO: All I know is all of the innocent people that I’ve talked to that have been accused of a crime don’t act the way that you do, and you are acting like the person that I portrayed, the ugly, cold blooded murderer, one of the actions that I portrayed, that is how you’re acting. There is nothing in your actions that would indicate to me (sigh) that you’re the victim of circumstance, and you’re going to be sorry you know when we get down the road and… and…uh…

22:23
JA: I agree.

FO: And you’ll probably be sorry you didn’t do the right thing. You have the opportunity to do something right here (sigh). I don’t know what to tell you.

(Silence)

22:44
(FO Sighs)

22:58
FO: Show me that I wasn’t wrong, Jodi. Show me what’s inside your heart and not what’s on the exterior.

23:21
FO: Help me understand why it happened and that it wasn’t cold and calculated and planned because that’s how everything points right now.

22:36
FO: You owe that at least to Travis’ family. Give them some closure, because I know just from working with all these families that have lost loved ones that they’re not struggling with who did it they’re struggling with why.

23:51
JA: That’s what I’ve been struggling with.

23:56
FO: Do you not understand why you did it yourself maybe? Is it something that, you know, is it a part of you that umm…came forth that you’ve never seen before? I know Travis’ family is struggling with why, and that would be one thing that would give them closure. They may never like you, but I think that they would be appreciative of why their son’s life was taken.

24:35
FO: You can’t give them their son back, but you can at least give them peace of mind as to why.

(Silence)

25:07
FO: I know if it was my child, that’s what I would want. I know that you’re not a mother, but all women have those mothering instincts within them and I think you can understand what I’m saying, and that’s why you’re hanging your head right now.

26:00
FO: Was I off base, Jodi?

26:15
JA: I can’t imagine what it would be like to lose one of my brothers.

26:20
FO: Wouldn’t you want to know why you lost one of your brothers?

26:25
JA: Yeah.

26:30
FO: I’ve never met them. I can’t speak for them, but I would bet, you know, my paycheck that that’s what they’re wondering right now, and you can at least show that you have a soul, that you have a heart, and that you understand that need in them and do something for somebody else beside yourself. That’s the least you can do for them right now. Give them an answer. Tell them why. That’s how you can control something that is happening in your life right now, because you have all the power. That’s a gift you can give that family. Tell them why. Use me as the voice to tell them why.

27:50
JA: (Whispers) I just don’t know why.

27:55
FO: Did one thing lead to another and it just got out of hand and it’s unexplainable even in your mind, or did you have it all planned out?

(Silence)

28:14
FO: You know, was he roughing you up and you just couldn’t take it anymore? Was he being violent on his part?

28:21
JA: He was only that way a couple times. It was before I moved. People just… I had bruises and stuff, and people were like “Oh, is
Travis beating you up?” and we’re like Ha, Ha, Ha, and he got mad because I wore a short sleeve shirt, but it was like 100 degrees outside.

28:47
FO: So this isn’t the perfect picture of a relationship.

28:52
JA: No it was very rocky. No, I’ve never once denied that we didn’t have our challenges -- that he’s said several choice words to me that weren’t nice, and you know, but he’s not the only person that has ever done that. My own father has done that. You know other women and men have done that to me and other boyfriends, you know.

29:12
FO: But you didn’t kill them. You didn’t get pushed to the point where you couldn’t take it anymore. That’s what we’re trying to understand is why. Either way, those detectives in Arizona have their case made, but the last you can do for that family is give them an answer.

(Silence)

29:54
FO: I’m not saying portray Travis as this ugly, horrible person, because you know (Sigh)… I don’t know if that’s the right thing to do either, but at least let them know that it was a two–way street and it wasn’t all your fault. Or, like I said, maybe I’m wrong, and maybe you did plan it from Day 1 and carried it out…


END OF VIDEO #7
 
Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation

Video 8


Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 8 - YouTube



JA = Jodi Arias
DF = Detective Flores
FO = Female Officer​


Transcribed by TxJan1971 at yahoo dot com

Setting:
Jodi is not handcuffed and is in the interrogation room wearing orange prison garb.

00:21
FO: If his mom and dad were sitting here right now, what would you say to them?

00:50
(Long pause by Jodi – Jodi is crying)
JA: I would tell them I’m very sorry.

(Long pause)

01:04
JA: Other than Travis, I’ve never lost anyone this close to me.

01:15
FO: If they asked you why it happened, what would you say to them?

01:20
JA: I don’t have the answer to why. It’s just… I don’t know why he was killed. I don’t know why. I don’t know why.

01:39
FO: All right. Maybe you can’t understand why, what led up to it, but what would you say to them, because that would help them with the why? If you’re struggling with the why within yourself, then what led up to it?

(Long silence)

02:16
FO: How could you explain to his mom and dad what led up to it that would help them to understand?

(Long silence)

02:40
JA: (Whispering) I’m sorry.

02:49
FO: Are you saying that to me or are you saying that to his family?

02:54
JA: (Whispering) …to everybody.

03:02
JA: (Louder voice) To everybody. To his family. To my family. To Travis. To God.

03:16
FO: Then if you truly are sorry, Jodi, clear your conscience and give them an understanding of what led up to it.

(Long silence)

03:53
FO: Don’t paint yourself as the cold blooded person that they’ll be left with unless you give them an understanding.

(Jodi crying)

04:16
FO: I don’t want to believe that I was wrong about you.

04:34
(Jodi puts her head down on her arm on the table and is crying).

04:47
JA: Could you get me a Kleenex I can use?

04:51
FO: Sure, I’ll be right back.

05:01

(Jodi takes a drink of water and then puts her head down on table again and cries.

05:32
(FO returns and hands Jodi a roll of toilet paper)

05:36
JA: Thank you.

05:37
FO: That’s all we have.

05:41
(Jodi blows her nose).

05:56
FO: I can see that your tears are real. That obviously is nothing that you can fake.

06:06
JA: You know Travis told me that my tears mean nothing. (cry/laugh) He said that one time when we were fighting.

06:13
FO: How’d that make you feel?

06:19
JA: Well, I knew they were real, so that’s all that mattered. It just made me umm… I don’t think he…I don’t know. It was weird ‘cause sometimes he just seemed to have no emotional understanding or depth and then other times he could move himself to cry like that (snaps her fingers) if he wanted to or if he was on stage and it made him ….if he felt the speech, or whatever, but those were things that he felt deeply about, you know? So, we’re all different. We all express our emotions differently and I realize that.

06:58
FO: Did he know how to push your buttons?

07:01
JA: We knew how to push each other’s buttons. I could make him mad in 5 seconds. I… you know that’s not my favorite pastime or anything, but, I just knew how to do that and he knew how to make me cry in 5 seconds. So I think his emotional expression was anger and mine was just sadness, I guess.

07:24
FO: Is that what happened? Did he push your buttons or you push his buttons? Is that what triggered this whole thing.

07:33
JA: No.

07:36
FO: Because looking at the pictures, it looked like, you know, you guys were engaged in some sort of (sigh) intimate umm…moment between the two of you. It didn’t look like it was all going bad. It looked like, you know, something happened real quick (sigh), and that’s the understanding I was talking about that you could give to the family.

08:13
JA: (whispers) I just don’t know.

08:18
FO: Well, maybe you don’t know why, and I understand, you know, that’s…that’s a pretty deep philosophical thing you’ll be struggling with within yourself, I’m guessing, but you know the factual things that led up to it, umm…and then people can draw their own conclusions from there, but sitting there silent and not saying anything makes you look like a horrible person.

09:14
(Still holding the toilet paper in her hands that she blew her nose with, Jodi raises her hands and covers her face/eyes while still clutching the toilet paper)

09:21
FO: I mean obviously, you’ve had other relationships with, you know, ups and downs that never drove you to that point.

09:30
JA: They were far worse than Travis.

09:33
FO: So what was it? What was it with Travis that set you off to such a degree?

(Jodi appears to be crying, and at 09:59 she puts her hands up to her face again, still clutching the toilet paper)

10:01
FO: I understand that you’re a very private person. Everybody has said that and that’s glaringly apparent, but all of your business is going to be out in the open right now, so there’s really nothing to hide from any more. You know what I mean?

10:27
JA: I wasn’t as private as Travis.

10:31
FO: Are you worried about his reputation?

10:34
JA: Umm…

10:35
FO: Is that what you’re trying to protect here?

10:37
JA: Yeah. I mean I’m concerned. I just don’t want… I would rather everyone didn’t know that he was umm… that we were both violating certain chastity laws continually. That’s a very big deal in the church. I mean I know that his Bishop knows, but he keeps everything private and, you know, I don’t know if you’re familiar with our faith, but he…Travis has another Bishop now, you know in the next life. He’s working through those things, so he’s got his own path. I don’t want his family to…I don’t know…I don’t think all of his family umm….share his faith, or if they do they are not as involved deeply as he was so I don’t know how they would feel. I’m sure they don’t care. They just want to know why. I can’t imagine what they’re going through right now.

11:40
FO: I mean at least on some level you can understand what’s going on in their head, you know -- the whys what we’ve been talking about. Was this a situation where you guys were involved in an intimate exchange and things got too rough? Is that…is that why the secrecy and privacy with me today?

12:15
JA: No.

12:22
FO: Then what’s keeping you from unloading your burden?

(No response from Jodi)

12:36
FO: Is it your own pride?

(No response from Jodi)

12:59
(Jodi places her crossed arms on the table and rests her head atop her arms)

13:00
FO: Do you think at this point that your pride matters more than Travis’ family’s grief?

(No response from Jodi)

13:19
FO: You know, what if they don’t have a faith base like Travis did, and what if they don’t have the spirituality to fall back on to help them through this process, you know some people can deal with it better when they have their own spiritual roots that they can dig down and hold onto. What if they don’t have that, you know? What if they’re in more turmoil than somebody who did have a faith base? Wouldn’t you want to help them out? I mean you tell me that you’re sorry.

14:01
JA: If I could I’d help them in a heartbeat…

14:05
TO: Well, you know that you can’t bring him back, but you can help them understand, and no matter what you say it’s not going to change their love for their son. It’s not going to make them dislike their son no matter what happened, but at least they’ll have closure
 

Attachments

  • Transcription - Video _8 - Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation.doc
    57.5 KB · Views: 13
Transcript of Video 8 conclusion.

14:35
(Jodi blows her nose)

(Silence)

15:03
FO: At least they’ll have closure.

(No response from Jodi)

15:25
(Jodi plays with her hair)

15:27
FO: If you’re not going to do it for yourself, at least do it for them. If you’ve already resigned to the fact that your situation is hopeless, why wouldn’t you do that for them?

15:48
JA: (Unintelligible) a question… (unintelligible)

16:16
JA: Can I use the restroom?

16:18
FO: Sure. You understand that I have to go in there with you?

16:36
JA: That’s fine.

16:36
FO: Okay.

16:41
(Jodi tosses her used toilet paper into the trash can behind her, stands up, and then walks out the door to the restroom with the FO.)

18:09
Jodi and FO return to the interrogation room and sit down.

(Silence)

18:41
FO: So before we took a break, I posed a question to you that you felt was a good question. If your situation, if you see your situation is so helpless, why wouldn’t you at least give the family some closure and some peace of mind as to what happened or why?

19:03
JA: (unintelligible)

19:13
FO: If you have any feelings, emotions within you, any goodness in your heart, I don’t know why you wouldn’t do that.

(Silence)

19:39
FO: Because if you don’t, and you don’t give them information that they seek for the closure, that makes you a very selfish person.

(Silence)

20:07
JA: (Whispers) I think I’ve been pretty selfish.

20:10
FO: How have you been selfish?

20:18
JA: (Whispering) It’s just a lot of things. Travis was always so selfless. He gave me everything that I needed. If I needed money and he had it, it was mine, if I needed food, if I needed to borrow his car, to use the internet because mine was down; I needed to…if I wanted to borrow his books. He had a cool library or audio books. One time he helped me with my prepaid legal business and he doesn’t benefit monetary in the least, and I would help him, too, with that because you have to qualify and for his position there’s a monthly qualification and I would just help him with computer stuff. I think I’m selfish.

21:56
JA: And one time we just met in Ehrenberg when I went to southern California so we could just rent a hotel room and make out the whole weekend, and umm…whatever, but we drove to go see a movie and there was this lady (Jodi crying) standing on the side. He pulled over in his BMW and rolls down his window and says, “Are you hungry?” and she said, “Yeah,” so we turned around and went to the Wendy’s right next to the hotel and he got her this triple decker and the biggie fries or whatever it’s called and the biggest drink they had and gave it to her. (Jodi crying)

22:51
JA: He always did stuff like that (Jodi takes some toilet paper and wipes her nose). We pulled into this gas station once in Chinle, Arizona and saw this Navajo Indian, and nothing against that tribe, they’ve got a very rich culture but most Navajos that you meet they are really overweight and…but their animals are starving with their ribs sticking out, and it just made us feel so bad. Travis bought, well, we ended up splitting it, but Travis bought 7 cheeseburgers for three hungry dogs and one was a mother with puppies and they just wolfed them down. We felt better, but we just felt like we couldn’t do enough.

23:44
FO: Then where did things to wrong, Jodi?

23:47
JA: I don’t know. I don’t know.

23:58
FO: This is your chance to make at least something right, even if it’s on a small scale it’s a big deal to his folks.

24:11
JA: Do they already know I’m in custody.

24:13
FO: I’m sure they do.

24:16
JA: Well they feel better about that much.

24:21
FO: But they still need closure. I mean just because you’re in custody doesn’t give them any closure.

24:26
(Jodi drinks from her water bottle)

(Silence)

24:52
FO: Is this something that you planned from Day 1?

(Silence)

25:03
FO: Is this something you wish you could take back?

25:07
JA: I wish I could change it. I wish I could rewind the clock.

25:16
FO: What would you do if you rewound the clock?

25:21
JA: I would have done everything I could to prevent it.

(Silence)

25:45
FO: If your fate is inevitable in your mind, why wouldn’t you give the family closure?

26:00
JA: I don’t know why. I don’t know if I can give them what they want. I just don’t know.

26:17
FO: Wouldn’t you at least want to try and let them make that decision?

(Silence)

26:40
FO: If it were my son, I would want to (unintelligible – sounds like: live the…??) information I could so that I could make some sense of it.

26:54
(JA takes another sip of water)

27:08
FO: Is this something that is so horrific in your mind that you don’t want to think that you’d be capable of such a thing?

(Silence)

27:29
FO: Because that’s the person that I was talking about -- the person that is scared and remorseful and didn’t want any of this to happen. So I don’t think I was wrong, Jodi.

27:50
(Jodi puts head down – appears to be crying)

28:01
FO: This is your opportunity to make right on some of your selfishness and let the family decide how they’re going to deal with that information and how they’re going to use it.

(Silence)

(Jodi wipes nose – holds toilet paper up to her nose. Puts head down on hand and rests on the table)

28:40
FO: And why should they have any more suffering than they’ve already had?

(Silence)

28:54
(Jodi blows her nose)

(Silence)

29:05
FO: In your religion, and forgive me for my ignorance about it…

29:12
JA: That’s okay. It’s a Christian based religion…

(Jodi tears off more toilet paper)

29:16
FO: Do they believe that the truth shall set you free?

29:26
JA: Umm…I think, yeah, because it has to do with (unintelligible two words).

29:33
FO: And if it’s just a Christian base theology, then I would say they would.

29:49
JA: I think it even says that in the Doctrine of Covenance which is another part of our scriptures. I’m trying to remember if I just read that the other day.

29:59
FO: Have you been giving much thought to that?

30:04
JA: Umm…not within the last 24 hours. I haven’t been really thinking about a lot except…

(Silence)

30:35
FO: You are the only person that has the information that the family seeks. They don’t seek, you know, crime scene information. They already… they will already have that. They seek something

(JA let’s out a cry/whimper)

FO: …that is on a much deeper level. It’s on an emotional level, and you are the only person that can help them with that.

End of Video #8
 
Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation

Video 9


Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 9 - YouTube

JA = Jodi Arias
DF = Detective Flores
FO = Female Officer


Transcribed by TxJan1971 at yahoo dot com


00:27
JA: I wasn’t angry at Travis. Everyone keeps saying whoever did this was so angry.

00:34
FO: Then what were you?

(Silence)
(Jodi scratches her head)
(Silence)

01:08
FO: Were you scared?

(Silence)

01:33
(Jodi wipes her eyes and nose and cries)

01:45
FO: Were you jealous?

01:46:
JA: I remember feeling jealous when we were together, because this one time, especially when he when he was letting this drunk girl hang all over him, and he wasn’t doing anything to stop it. He was just supporting her and holding her and like right in front of me, and I’m like, “What are you doing?” but I didn’t want to make a scene. You know all our friends were there so I just left. I felt more sad. They were, of course, feelings of…more feelings of insecurity, because it made me wonder, “What are your deeper philosophies if you think that’s okay and we’re in a relationship together?” To him, it was harmless. Umm…when I realized that he didn’t mean anything by it we talked about it so I remember feeling jealous about that. That was … it was almost a year and a half ago.

02:35
FO: So if it’s not jealousy and it’s not anger, then what was it?

(Silence)
(Jodi not looking at FO)

02:55
FO: Have you been asking yourself that same question?

(Silence)

03:02
FO: Is it that you’re having a hard time figuring it out within yourself?

(Silence)

03:16
JA: (Whispers) I just don’t know.

(Silence)

03:43
FO: Was it fear?

(Silence) (Jodi not looking at FO)

03:55
FO: So if it was fear, then what was it that you’re afraid of or were afraid of?

(Silence)

(Jodi not even looking at detective – hands crossed in front of her – looks off to the side).

(More silence)

04:43
FO: Are you looking back and trying to remember that day?

04:51
JA: I’m just trying to remember everything -- things that happened, our conversations, I just…
I don’t know.

05:06
FO: What do you remember about that day that would help the family understand?

(Jodi, hand on face, not looking at FO).

05:30
FO: Did you at least start out enjoying each other’s company that day?

(Silence)

05:51
(Jodi puts fist on forehead, leans on table, not answering)

06:12
FO: Did you go there with the intention to kill him? No?

06:28
FO: What was your intention?

(Silence)

06:58
FO: Did you mean for that to happen?

(Silence)

07:18
(Jodi puts her head on her elbow on the table) (Sounds like she is crying)

07:35
(Jodi rubs eyes, places hands on either side of her hair, leans back down on the table and is heard crying)

08:06
(Jodi takes toilet paper and blows her nose and then wipes her eyes)

08:24
JA: I’m not really good at expressing myself. I think I’m just going to write his grandmother.

08:31
FO: Would you like to write them a letter now?

08:34
JA: Umm…I think I want…I mean I could start but it would be just like a rough draft. It wouldn’t be something that I’d want to submit I want to think about it and make sure that that’s what I really want to say and I know you want everything now, but umm…if you don’t want to do that or help me any more, that’s fine but I’m still willing to write a letter. I can usually say things better in writing.

09:10
FO: I think that’s a good idea for you to write them a letter. As far as the now goes for me, like I said, it’s not going to make any difference for me, but it would make a difference for you and it would make a difference for Travis’ family, because I think I’m very safe in my assumption that they’re seeking closure, and the more information that they have to understand why will give them the closure that they seek, and
I think that you want to do that. I can see that in you.

09:55
JA: (Whispers) They deserve that. (Jodi is crying)

09:57
FO: They do deserve that. If you have a hard time expressing yourself, that’s okay and understandable in this situation. This isn’t an everyday average, normal situation.

10:13
JA: (Unintelligible – crying) I can usually see things better in writing…

(Jodi takes more toilet paper wiping her eyes).

10:27
FO: If you would let me help you, I can help you with that expression, but you have to be willing. You can still write them a letter.

10:47
(Jodi takes a drink of water)

11:01
FO: And the least you can do is give the family something. I don’t know how many times I can say that enough. You say that you didn’t mean for that to happen that day, you nodded your head, “No” when I asked you that, and I believe that, but in order for that to be believable there has to be some understanding what led up to it.

11:38
(Jodi throws used toilet paper in the trash can)

11:53
(Jodi starts crying again and puts head on crossed arms on the table)

12:06
FO: Was he expecting you to come over that day?

12:14
JA: He wanted me to. I told him I wasn’t going to.

12:22
FO: So was it a surprise that you actually showed up?

(Silence)
 

Attachments

  • Transcription - Video _9 - Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation.doc
    51 KB · Views: 12
Transcript of Video 9 conclusion.


12:42
(Jodi unravels more toilet paper and wipes her eyes then her nose)

12:51
FO: Is it a matter of you not understanding how things got so carried away that it would end up in a situation like that,

13:04
JA: I don’t know.

13:05
FO:…or did you go there with the intention to kill him?

(Silence)

13:28
FO: Do you want to leave here today with those questions not answered for Travis’ mom and dad?

13:43
JA: His mom and dad passed away. I’m not saying that to be like trivial…it’s just when you say that, in my mind, I go, I understand, because they’re all together.

13:57
FO: I see. So who, who’s left behind, his grandmother?

14:04
JA: (Whispering) She raised him. He has a lot of brothers and sisters. I think he has three sisters, maybe four, Tanisha, Samantha, I don’t remember, and he has some brothers and a brother-in-law.

14:25
FO: So what about his grandma and siblings?
Do you want to walk way from here today without giving them something to understand?

(Jodi crying)
(No response)

14:56
FO: If your fate is sealed in your mind, why wouldn’t you give them that?

(No response)

15:08
FO: And at the same time help yourself out?

(Silence)

15:54
FO: Are you the cold hearted person that everybody thinks you are? Huh?

16:06
JA: No. Not cold hearted.

16:10
FO: Then what are you?

16:13
JA: I’m weak.

16:21
FO: What is your weakness?

16:30
JA: I’m kind of embarrassed to admit it.

16:33
FO: I can understand that. We’re all human. We all have weaknesses and embarrassing things that we wouldn’t want anybody to reveal.

16:59
FO: What’s your weakness?

17:12
JA: It’s stupid and it doesn’t really have anything to do with this, too much. It’s something I’m working through.

17:22
FO: Do you have problems with your temper or anger issues?

17:26
JA: No it’s nothing like that. I mean I sometimes I yell, but nothing like, I wouldn’t go as far as saying anger issues. I think it’s just ‘cause I come from a family that yells at everyone.

17:43
FO: That’s how they communicate?

17:45
JA: Umm…I think they’re just sort of desensitized to it. Like after I moved out I was away for awhile so when I came back for a visit it’s like, “You don’t have to yell, I’m standing right here,” or she’ll, my mom will yell at my brother, “He’s standing right there, you don’t need to yell,” and she’s like “Well, he doesn’t listen if I don’t yell,” and the thing is, it’s because he’s become desensitized to her yelling, so until she yells, he’s like, “Okay.” So maybe it’s something like that but not anger issues. I’ve been able to check that a lot because yelling is not a nice way to communicate in my opinion and it doesn’t really help anything.

18:23
FO: So how could things go some wrong? I’m not understanding. If it’s not jealousy, it’s not an anger problem. You said you were afraid, or you nodded at least that you were afraid, but I’m not sure what you were afraid of.

(Silence)

19:03
JA: (Whispers) It’s trivial.

19:06
FO: It may not be trivial to his grandmother, his brothers and sisters.

(Long silence)

19:43
FO: And I think any information that they could have to help understand, you know who you are and what transpired that day is going to help them. It won’t bring their son back, but it will help them understand.

(Silence)

20:21
FO: And I don’t understand why you wouldn’t do that for them, because you obviously care.

(Silence)

20:44
(Jodi has head on hand – not looking at FO, hanging head in shame position)

(Silence)

(Jodi begins rubbing her right hand up and down her left arm stroking herself)

21:23
FO: I’m not asking you to make excuses for yourself, because I don’t think that you’re the type of person that would do that, but I’m asking you to do something for somebody else - somebody that deserves to know.

21:56
(Jodi wipes nose)

(Silence)

22:10
FO: What was it about your relationship that went so wrong that would have it end up like that?

(Silence)

22:38
FO: And if that wasn’t your intention, then what was?

(Long silence)

23:10
FO: You say that, you know, you said at one point when I posed the question to you about why you wouldn’t do that for the family and you said that was a good question and you think you will…

JA: Are you sure I will?

23:30
FO: Well, now is your time. This is the opportunity that I’m trying to give you.

23:39
JA: I understand and I appreciate that

23:45
FO: Then what’s keeping you from doing it.

23:46
JA: I think I just need to sort it through. I’m just not sure and they deserve answers. They deserve…

23:54
FO: They deserve to know what happened. You have those answers. You may not know the why within yourself but you have the answers. You know what happened.

(Silence)

24:24
FO: You can still write them a letter when you figure out within yourself, you know, some of the questions that you’re struggling with, but in the meantime you can let them know what happened, the facts of what happened.

24:42
JA: I don’t have all the details.

24:46
FO: What details do you have?

(Silence)

25:05
FO: Was he happy to see you when you got there that day?

(Silence)

25:12
FO: Or did he appear happy, or was he angry that you showed up?

(Silence)

END OF VIDEO #9​
 
Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation​



JA = Jodi Arias
DF = Detective Flores
FO = Female Officer

Transcribed by TxJan1971 at yahoo dot com


NOTE:

From 00:00 until 09:29, this is a repeat of the end of Video #9. This video transcription will begin at the first statement after that point which is 09:29.


09:29
JA: (Whispers) (Unintelligible) (Sounds like: It feels like a whole week since I’ve been here/back)

09:33
FO: I’m sure it does.

09:55
JA: Is there any way I can see some of those photos?

10:00
FO: What would you do with them if you could see them?

10:03
JA: Just look at them.

10:05
FO: Do you think it would help you?

10:07
JA: I don’t know if it would help me or… I don’t know. Maybe. Maybe it wouldn’t. I don’t know. I just think that… I don’t know.

10:23
FO: Well, I know you can’t tell me that you’re not struggling in your mind and thinking in your mind what happened over and over and over again, at least what you can remember.

10:38
FO: You can help me understand at least what led up to it.

(Silence)

11:06
FO: I don’t think that you’re a bad person. I think that things got out of control and you don’t understand why. I don’t think that you’re going to feel good about yourself until you unburden yourself and give the family some closure, ‘cause at this point, what else do you have, what else do they have?

(Silence)

11:59
FO: What have you got to lose?

(Silence)

12:18
JA: I already lost everything.

12:23
FO: Then do something selfless.

(Silence)

12:56
(Jodi throws away her used toilet paper)

13:04
(Jodi takes more toilet paper and wipes her eyes and nose)

13:20
(Jodi runs hand through her hair and sighs)

(Silence)

13:36
FO: Do something selfless, that quality that you admired in Travis.

13:39
(Jodi takes a drink of water)

13:43
FO: Show his family that at least you have that in you.

13:51
(Jodi covers her mouth/nose and is crying)

14:11
(Jodi wiping nose)

14:15
JA: You know even though Travis was a real jerk sometimes, he really cared about me.

(Jodi throws toilet paper away)

14:30
JA: (Whispers) I don’t know why.

14:40
(Jodi takes more toilet paper)

14:40
JA: He called it umm… like… like…I had a reserve account because I’m trying to paint a picture once where I had so many good things that we had done and shared and I had done for him that even if I did something bad you know it’s like I was making a withdrawal but he saw it as a positive balance.

15:10
FO: So he obviously saw that good within you.

15:16
JA: His friends thought he was mine. Well, two friends in particular, not everyone.

15:32
FO: Was he…go ahead…

15:35
JA: He wasn’t mine though, he was just…We were just friends. I’m sorry what were you going to say?

15:44
FO: I was just going to ask you if he was happy to see you that week – that day?

(Silence)

16:08
FO: That looked like you’re saying, “Yeah, he was.”

16:12
JA: (Jodi throws used toilet paper in trash can behind her) No, I didn’t say that.

FO: Okay.

16:18
JA: He was always happy to see me, though. I’m trying to think…

16:25
FO: Were you happy to see him?

(Silence)

16:32
(Jodi runs hand through her hair – uses her hand to cover her mouth)

(Silence)

16:42
FO: You at least know that.

16:54
(Jodi wipes her nose)

17:02
FO: I don’t believe you went there with the intention to hurt him.

(Silence)

17:17
FO: Maybe you did.

(Silence)

17:43
(Jodi sighs)

17:50
FO: How is seeing those pictures again going to help you?

17:58
JA: I just thought it would help me piece things together.

18:08
FO: What is it that you’re trying to piece together?

18:15
JA: Umm. I don’t know. There’s also a bit of morbid curiosity, I think. ((Crying) I just want to see the pictures. He showed me a good picture of him yesterday.

18:40
FO: Is it the one with him in the shower?

18:42
JA: He had water all over his face or something.

18:46
FO: You took a nice picture of him.

18:51
JA: He would never let me take pictures of him in the shower, you know, despite our intimacy he was very private about his showers. You know, like he had a room. I don’t think you’ve seen the room, but

(Jodi becomes animated and proceeds to use her hands to draw a diagram of Travis’ rooms on the table)

it was here. There were double doors here leading into the room, a walk-in closet here and a hallway, sort of short hallway here that went this way, and then there was a bathtub here, a shower here and a bathroom here, full enclosure, and so if he was taking a shower you couldn’t see if you were in the bedroom unless you walked down the hall, and I never went in the bathroom when he would shower because he was just private about it, you know. It’s not like we were a married couple ever. We had a time when we did something and then after that it was …you know…we weren’t a couple, you know…

19:35
FO: Are you saying that those pictures were taken without his consent?

19:41
JA: I’m just saying that whoever took those pictures must have, I mean it’s hard to imagine because I got pictures of him once shaving and he was already weird about that.

19:52
FO: Well, Jodi, when you say things like that, it’s obvious to me that you don’t want to do the right thing for the family, you don’t want to unburden yourself, you don’t want to give them closure, and you’re jerking my chain, because there’s no doubt, and I’ve already told you there’s no doubt in my mind or anybody else’s mind that you were responsible for his death, and I don’t appreciate my chain being jerked. I don’t appreciate you thinking I’m some sort of fool.

20:30
JA: Well, the detective says he has pictures of me.

20:33
FO: Mmm hmmm. I’ve seen those pictures. They were taken the same day.

20:40
JA: Well, certainly not the same time.

20:42
(Jodi takes a drink of water)

20:44
FO: Within the same time frame.

20:55
FO: And to tell you the truth, I think I’ve done all I can here. I was hoping to, you know, be able to relay some sort of information or message to the family because they deserve it. You have the power. You have the control. You’re the only one that can give that, and I’m tired of playing games. I’m tired of skirting around it.

(Silence)

21:31
FO: And I guess I just leave here today and leave them with the image that they have of you. I don’t know what else… There’s nothing else that I can do. I thought that it would be easier for you to talk to a woman, especially about the… you know, I mean this was a very intimate incident, and it would be easier to say what you need to say to a woman. Sometimes it is. It’s not as threatening.

(Silence)

22:26
FO: But unless you’re willing to give me something, something to help you with and I can help you walk down that path and help you remember those details then I can’t do anything for you.

22:47
FO: You need to decide whether you’re going to give that family closure or leave them with the picture that they have of you and wondering why their son died. That’s it. That’s the bottom line. That’s what you need to decide. After today, things are going to go so fast for you that you are going to be totally out of control of the situation. The wheels of justice will start turning.

(Silence)

23:32
FO: I can see that you want to do that. That’s clear. I can see that. I understand that you’re afraid and that you’re horrified about that person that’s in you that could do something like that, but it happened, and it’s a done deal, and it did At least you can do is tell the family how it happened so they can understand why.

24:04
FO: Are you going to do that for them today or not?

24:15
JA: I’d…I’d like to… um…

24:21
FO: Then what’s holding you back?

24:22
JA: I’d like to begin something…like a…I don’t know. I just… ‘cause I don’t know what to say to them.

24:30
FO: Well, let’s throw a few things out. You said you were sorry.

24:40
JA: (Whispers) Sorry seems so meaningless. Of course, I’m sorry.

24:43
FO: Unless you back it up with something else as to why you’re sorry, you’re right.

(Silence)

25:19
(Jodi sighs)

(Silence)

25:44
(Jodi leans over, rests elbows on the table, bows her head)

26:02
FO: Give them something, Jodi. Did you guys get into an argument that day? Was there some kind of fight? I mean help them understand. That’s what I’m talking about.

(Silence)

26:54
FO: I mean do you think you’re going to get this opportunity again to sit down and just have a freeform discussion?

27:03
JA: No, probably not, unless it’s with lawyers. When you say freeform, do you mean like in this room?

27:15
FO: Yeah, just exchanging, communicating. There’s not going to be any situation or place that’s going to make it any easier for you. This is as good as it gets for you right now.

27:36
JA: Yesterday Detective Flores asked me if I wanted to see those pictures, and I told him no.

27:39
FO: Mmm hmm. Do you think that’s going to help you?

27:45
JA: I don’t know.

27:49
FO: Well, let me tell you what. Let me check and see if we can get you some pictures to look at.

27:58
JA: He had a whole binder of stuff. If they were all pictures, I don’t know.

28:03
FO: Yeah, there are a lot of pictures.

28:12
FO: I’ll be right back.

(FO leaves the room)

28:13
(Jodi still leaning over, head bowed, elbows on table, hands behind her hair/neck)

28:51
(Jodi sits up, tosses her toilet paper in the trash can, opens the water bottle and takes a drink)

(Jodi stands up and walks to the wall out of view of the camera to see what she is doing)

(Jodi sits down with her back to the camera and stares at the wall)

(Jodi rests her head on the table)


END OF VIDEO #10
 

Attachments

  • Transcription - Video #10 - Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation.doc
    58.5 KB · Views: 11
Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation​


Video 11

Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 11 - YouTube


JA = Jodi Arias
DF = Detective Flores
FO = Female Officer

Transcribed by TxJan1971 at yahoo dot com

Setting:
Jodi sits alone in interrogation room wearing her orange prison garb.

00:25
(FO enters the room)

00:27
FO: Jodi, Detective Flores has the binder with those pictures, and he’s not here in our office right now, but I put a call in to try and find him and get him back here He’s still in town. Would you rather talk to him?
Umm…if you do, you know that’s fine. I’m sure he’d be willing to talk with you again, or would you rather continue talking with me? It’s up to you.

01:01
JA: Umm I… I don’t really have a preference, I guess.

01:14
FO: Well, we don’t have unlimited time. You don’t have unlimited time. We need to get you back across the street, and there are other things we need to work on. So, you know, the time is now to decide whether you’re going to talk to me or not and whether you’re going to give the family some relief that I talked to you about.

01:40
JA: (Whispers) (Unintelligible)

01:43
FO: Well, either you do or you don’t. You know actions…actions speak louder than words at this point.

01:50
JA: (Whispers) (Unintelligible)

01:59
FO: If you really want to do it, do it. It’s not going to benefit either you or them to wait to do it.

(Silence)

02:33
FO: And I don’t know what it is that’s going on inside your head right now. I don’t know whether you’re weighing the odds, umm… you know trying to figure out how to save your own skin here, umm...

02:44
JA: (Whispers) I’m not interested in saving my own skin.

02:46
FO: Then what are you interested in?

02:52
JA: Umm…well, I am definitely interested in giving his family closure. I’m also interested in maybe a little bit of closure for myself. I got a flat tire on the way to his funeral, and I was not able to go. Umm…it was…(unintelligible). My flat (?) was in Sacramento, and it was very early in the morning so there were no tire places open, and I was, and even if I had driven as fast as I could to get there and didn’t get pulled over, I still wouldn’t have made it on time for his family.

03:24
FO: Don’t you think that it’s going to make just a little bit of difference inside yourself as far as that closure goes if you know that the family at least has something?

03:38
JA: Yeah, if anyone deserves closure anyway it’s that family, not me, but I think that’s kind of why I wanted to umm…see those pictures. I don’t know if it will help or not.

03:52
FO: I don’t see how it would help. I think it would, you know if anything, make you more upset. I mean you know what happened. You know how it transpired. You know the end result and what the end result looked like.

04:08
JA: Maybe it will help me process, I don’t know.

(Silence)

04:19
FO: You can at least, until you get to the point of, you know, you’re processing the pictures and so forth, you can at least talk about the good things that happened that day and what your intentions were. You know maybe you can’t bear to talk about the actual act itself, but you can at least talk about the events that led up to it, happy or sad. There had to have been some happy, because I saw all of those photos.

(Silence)

05:12
FO: And if you’re not going to do that today, with me right now, I’m just going to send you back across the street, (sigh) because we’ve been in here for awhile, and I don’t have, you know, the entire day. I guess my patience is running a little thin.

05:40
JA: Umm…I have a lot of letters to write…

05:44
FO: Mmm hmm.

05:53
JA: I think if I can just…Everything is just all jumbled. If I can just get some things on paper, I don’t know.

06:10
(Jodi sighs)

06:15
FO: Do you not trust what I’m going to do with this information when you give it?

06:25
JA: Well, umm… I don’t know. Well, it’s not that I distrust you, but…and not ‘cause I think you’re not trustworthy. It’s not that.

06:46
FO: If you give me a specific message to give to them, I promise you that I will relay it in the way that…in the context of which you put it.

07:08
FO: But I can’t do it without any information, without the information that you’re holding. So, therefore, you know, if that’s how we leave it, I’m not going to say anything to them, and they’ll be left, you know, with the thoughts they have right now. If you think you’re feeling grief over this whole incident, think about how they feel. For once, think about somebody else - the turmoil that they’re going through, that that family is going through. Every time you see a family struggling with this they always want to know why. Why was my son’s life taken? Why was my grandson’s life taken?

08:05
JA: Everybody wants to know why.

08:06
FO: Everybody wants to know why, and maybe you don’t have that why, but you have the events that led up to it, and then they can make their own decision as to why. The time is now. You won’t have another opportunity like this. This is still early. If you want to talk to Detective Flores as opposed to me, you can do that. I just thought it would be easier to talk to a woman who can relate to some of those feelings, but if you want to go back across the street right now just let me know.

09:17
JA: I kind of do want to talk to him because he has been in contact with their family…with Travis’ family a lot. I don’t know if that would make any difference, but I know that he already talks to them on a regular basis.

09:28
FO: Yeah, and I’m sure that, you know, he has somewhat of a relationship with them. I’ll umm… I had them put in a call so we’ll see if he is…

09:41
JA: You know, I’m not trying to stall or anything but I have to go to the bathroom again. Can we go?

09:46
FO: Yeah.

09:47
JA: Thanks.

09:54
(Jodi & FO leave the room)

11:23
(Jodi enters the room alone and walks over to the table)

11:28
(Jodi hasn’t even sat down yet when she reaches to pick up the tape recorder on the table)

11:28 – 12:10
(Jodi picks up the recorder, sits down, and begins to examine it while still holding it. When the door opens, Jodi is seen moving it to her lap and then moves it back to the table).

12:10
DF: Hello, Rachel called me and told me that you wanted to talk to me. I was just on the phone with Travis’ sister and I told her I…

12:17
(Jodi reaches for water bottle and takes a drink)

12:16
JA: Which sister?

12:18
DF: Samantha.

12:23
JA: What did she say?

12:25
DF: (Sigh) She has a million and one questions, more questions now than she had before. I don’t have anything to give her, partly because I can’t give certain information yet, but the other of it is because I don’t have a lot of information.

12:50
DF: Are you doing okay?

12:52
JA: It doesn’t matter how I’m doing.

12:54
DF: It does to me.

12:56
JA: Thank you, but it doesn’t matter... (crying)

12:56
DF: I’ve always been completely honest with you, and I just wish that you could be honest with me.

13:16
JA: What matters is how his family is doing, and, of course, I care about how my family is doing just ‘cause I’m the person here that everyone thinks is a bad guy, but it doesn’t mean that my family had anything to do with anything, and it doesn’t mean that they were responsible for anything or that they should suffer at all and it’s, and, of course, I feel his family, and I don’t know them as well, I really don’t even know them at all except for his grandmother.

13:48
DF: Yeah. I told you yesterday I’ve been doing this a long time and you’re absolutely right. You know the person’s family who was hurt, they’re obviously hurting, but there’s a second family that hurts as well, and in this case, it’s your family -- your brothers, your sister, your mom and your dad.

14:25
JA: (Unintelligible)

14:26
DF: Yeah.

14:36
JA: I just wish they wouldn’t hurt. It would be so much easier for me, not that I deserve to have it easy, but…

14:46
DF: I don’t think you’re ever going to be able to take that away from them. I think they’re always going to hurt. Now, the only thing that can solve that is time.

14:59
JA: You’re right about that.

15:11
DF: Rachel said something about you wanted to see some photos, but I don’t think I can show you any more photos.

15:20
JA: Why not?

15:23
DF: Not just…I don’t like doing that, because something might happen to you. You might… First off, it’s not something I do.

15:38
JA: The reason I asked was because I just feel like it might help me piece some things together. Umm…and this is more of a selfish reason because I think it might give me some sense of closure. I know it’s kind of morbid. I don’t even think I really deserve closure. His family does, but I wasn’t able to visit the funeral home and it’s just, and I don’t know, that’s just why…mostly…

16:18
DF: What is it that you want to know about the photos? Do you want to see the room? Do you want to see the bathroom or do you want to see him or is it the photos before it happened that you want to see?

16:33
JA: I think the photos of after everything.

16:45
DF: I won’t show you those. I won’t - not in good conscience. I can’t do that.

16:55
JA: Are there…Is there any that you can?

16:59
DF: No, I can’t do that.

(DF phone buzzes)

17:09
JA: (unintelligible) like before, I mean, I’ve seen plenty of those kinds of photos.

17:15
DF: If you want I can describe stuff for you,

17:19
JA: Okay.

17:20
DF:…because I was there. Those photos will never leave my head. I’m sure they’ll never leave yours either. The one thing you got to remember is by the time he was found, the images that you saw were different from the ones I saw. Things change over time. His body changes after time. We had a difficult time identifying who he was by the time we got there. He wasn’t the same person, so that’s why I don’t want to show you photos.

18:16
JA: What about photos of just the room with him not in it? I don’t know. I guess it doesn’t matter.

18:24
DF: I don’t have them with me here, but as soon as I get a hold of them. Another detective has them right now.

18:37
DF: What is it that you can tell me about that day?

18:47
JA: There’s really not much. Things are kind of blurry.

18:52
DF: Was he expecting you to show up that day?

18:56
JA: He wanted me to come.

18:59
DF: But you didn’t want to?

19:00
JA: I told him I was going to Utah.

19:06
DF: Why did you decide to go then?

19:06
(Jodi takes a drink – plays with bottle)

19:19
JA: I didn’t really, I was going to Utah.

(Silence)

19:41
(Jodi hears a “beep” and puts the water bottle down. She turns around and picks up the recorder from the back table)

19:45
DF: You can leave it off.

19:49
JA: This one still has a full battery in it.

19:52
DF: You can leave it off. Just me and you.

20:01
JA: I just…I know that you talk to his family and…

20:07
DF: Every day.

20:13
DF: They can’t believe it. I called them yesterday and told them, and they just can’t believe it.

20:19
JA: Who did you talk to?

20:22
DF: I talked to both his… actually, I talked to his brother, Steven, first and Samantha, I left her a message. She was off on vacation and his other two brothers, was it Gary and…? I didn’t talk to the other brother, Gary, I talked to…

20:37
JA: Mike? That’s his uncle.

20:39
DF: He was going to call his little brother and his other sister, and I was planning on calling his aunt today. She lives back in the Midwest.

20:51
JA: Which aunt?

20:52
DF: I can’t remember her name.

20:54
JA: (Jodi gives the name of an aunt, but it is unintelligible)?

20:55
DF: No. It’s another name.

20:58
JA: Did you talk to this grandmother?

20:59
DF: No. Steven said he was going to take care of that, and if she had any questions she could give me call.
She’s been so upset she hasn’t been able to call me yet. Is there something you want me to tell them?

21:28
JA: The things that keep coming to my mind wouldn’t help them at all – wouldn’t comfort them. It would just be clichéd meaningless words.

21:49
DF: I’ll let you decide what to say and I’ll relay it exactly how you want me to.

21:59
JA: Umm…I have an unrelated question real quick.

22:02
DF: Sure.

22:03
JA: I know… it’s not… I mean Detective Blaney said that…that she doesn’t like me asking them because it makes it look like I’m concerned about trivial things, but I’m only asking because it concerns other people that I care about and…

22:15
DF: That’s understandable.

22:16
JA: I just …if I just know so I could tell them if I ever talk to them again or relay a message or call them. Last Friday I had a wedding and

22:27
DF: Is this the camera?

22:28
JA: Yeah, and the only place that those photos are, are on my external drive and on the camera card.

22:36
DF: It will be awhile before we get those back.

22:39
JA: Okay, but if they can just get to the right person because that’s the
only thing they have for their wedding date.

22:44
DF: I’ll be absolutely positive to give those to the right people.

22:48
JA: I was going to edit them and make them look really nice but he’s…

22:53
DF: They can probably take them and edit the pictures, but who are those two people that those pictures belong to?

23:00
JA: Oh. Umm…Brian Nieman is his name.

23:02
DF: Okay. All right. Yeah. I was talking to you mom and I think she mentioned something about that.

23:10
JA: and also on my external drive as well, maybe my computer and hard drive, too. There were pictures of my little sister and I, and for whatever reason, she’s in some kind of rehab program right now.

23:23
DF: New photos?

23:24
JA: Yeah, well, pretty recent ones that she had of her prom night and of her and I that we were just goofing off. So they’re her and I together, and my mom was going to send those, and also my little brother. She was going to send some of those, and even if she doesn’t send them she wants them. So I mean, they… I kind of took them for her and so…

23:43
DF: I understand. You’re worried about other people right now, but you also need to understand that these people, right now, that stuff is not important to them.

23:55
JA: I know.

23:56
DF: So I mean that’s good, I mean you’re thinking of them, but they’re not thinking of pictures. They’re not thinking of stuff like that. They’re worried about you.

24:05
JA: Eventually they’re going to want those. I know that much. They’ll want those.

24:11
JA: Did you also take my journals?

24:13
DF: Yes.

24:14
JA: All three of them?

24:15
DF: All of them.

24:22
JA: Are you going to keep that forever?

24:24
DF: No. I’d like to return them to you someday.

24:27
JA: I just, umm…Well, I’m probably not going to get anything back, but I know that my mom may have mentioned that she likes the way I write and she’s always wanted to know my business, so…

24:40
DF: Is that something you want me to give to her?

24:42
JA: Umm…I wouldn’t mind if you did. I had something I wouldn’t want her to read otherwise, but
in this circumstance I think she deserves to have every piece of me that she can ‘cause she’s not getting any more.

25:00
DF: You’re still here with us.

25:06
DF: You’re not going anywhere.

25:10
JA: I’m going somewhere (laughs).

25:11
DF: Not anytime soon. You’ll still be able to talk to your family. They can talk to you. They’ll be able to visit you.

25:26
JA: Do you know what happened to my cash? I heard people got cash on the books there, or on my book or whatever it’s called, so that I can get a few things that I might need there. I don’t know what it would be, but…

25:37
DF: I don’t know about the situation here but, once everything gets transferred over to Phoenix, it’s a different story.

25:48
JA: So I might not see that again?

25:50
DF: No. Any cash that was there is yours. If you had cash in your purse, that’s your money.

25:56
JA: I also had cash in my savings.

25:59
DF: I don’t think they took any of that. I know it was mentioned that there was some cash that they saw. They just documented it, and left it.

26:15
JA: Anyway, I don’t even know…that’s not important. I’m just…

26:18
DF: No, it’s important to you, and I understand that.

26:21
DF: I mean there are things that I would think of if I were in your situation. I’d want to take care of the people who loved me and that I love and make sure that everything was set, because certain things you won’t be able to do anymore.

26:41
JA: Like hug my family.

26:43
DF: No, you’ll be able to.

26:46
JA: Well, if they come visit, it’s like behind a glass, you know?

26:49
DF: No, it’s not.

26:50
JA: It isn’t? Here?

26:52
DF: No, in Arizona.

26:55
JA: They’re not going to come to Arizona.

26:57
DF: I guarantee you they’ll come to Arizona and see you.

27:01
JA: When I moved away, they never came to see me and I was gone for 10 years.

27:07
DF: From my understanding, some of that was because of you.

27:12
JA: I had a house with a free bedroom and a bed and a pool and everything you could want and they never came to visit me once. It was my first home. I’m sorry, this is all stupid and it’s irrelevant. I’m just saying they’re not gonna’ come to Arizona, and they shouldn’t have to come to Arizona, and I don’t think I want them to anyway. So yeah, when you say there are certain things that I won’t do anymore, I know that’s really sinking in quite a bit.

27:41
DF: You don’t think your sister or brothers would come visit you?

27:44
JA: Yeah, sure they would.

27:46
DF: Of course they will. You don’t think your mom will come visit you? She will. Who do you think is worrying about you more right now? I think your mom and dad are worried more than anything.

27:59
JA: My dad went to the hospital yesterday because he was having a panic attack,

28:03
DF: Yeah.

28:08
JA: and he gets these things where they just can’t get his heart rate down, and it’s not…I mean I haven’t really been the cause of any of that prior. It just happened, but yesterday I had everything to do with it. It doesn’t even matter. I mean he’s had a long life. Every breath he takes right now is because of modern technology. It’s bought him a lot of time, but

28:43
JA: I’m so sorry for Travis’ family.

28:49
DF: Well, they’re asking for answers. What can you give them? What do you want me to tell them?

29:04
DF: I will tell them anything that you want me to.

29:14
DF: And it’s not gonna’ solve anything for them. It’s not going to fill that void of curiosity, but I think at least it would be a start.

29:30
DF: What is it you want to say?
I will call her as soon as I’m done talking to you.

29:37
(Jodi tears off some toilet paper and wipes her nose)

29:41
JA: Umm…one thing you could say, and this has nothing to do with his death, but it’s something they may want to see. Umm…two nights ago, it took me 5 ½ hours, but I posted a 45 minute video on You Tube of him doing a training in San Bernardino. Umm…

30:00
DF: Where did you post that?

30:02
JA: On You Tube. If you go to You Tube, it takes some time, a couple hours to get it up, and you know once it’s processed, they have to go through some processing thing, but if you type in Travis Alexander – System’s Training, it should come up.

30:22
DF: What is it again?

30:24
JA: Travis Alexander and then a dash – that’s space and then a dash

30:32
DF: Space and then just a dash?

30:33
JA: Yeah, and then Assistant’s Training

30:39
JA: An apostrophe and then an s. I don’t know if that makes a difference. That’s exactly what I titled it. I think his friend, Chris Hughes, gives about a 6 ½ minute introduction to it, and then Travis gets up there and gives a 30 minute training, and he talks a lot about what’s in the introduction to his book. He talks about his grandfather, Vic.

30:59
DF: He loves his grandparents.

31:00
JA: Yeah.

31:01
DF: You know he still loves his grandparents. He loves his parents and his family, and he and I have similar beliefs, and, you know, we know he’s okay now.

31:14
JA: I know and I know that he’s okay and that he’s in a good place and I know that that doesn’t make it any better here for anybody.

31:23
DF: There’s always that but. I think he’s waiting for you to give relief to other people who are still here with us. You know you have to. You can’t leave it unfinished. It’s the last piece of this puzzle.

31:53
DF: It is completely up to you, Jodi.

32:02
DF: I told you yesterday I have details on how things happened. There’s ways to figure it out. What the biggest question everybody always asks is, why? It’s the biggest question of our life.

32:23
JA: It is.

32:24
DF: Why are we here? Why do we suffer? Why do we go through the things that we do?

32:31
JA: Why do we hurt each other?

32:37
DF: The biggest reason I have ever found is for us to have happiness.

32:45
JA: (Crying) I think you’re right.

32:37
DF: Whatever situation that we have, no matter where we are at, who we are, and what our situation is, we can at least try to be happy.


END OF VIDEO #11
 

Attachments

  • Transcription - Video 11 - Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation.doc
    94 KB · Views: 8
Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation

Video 12

Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 12 - YouTube

JA = Jodi Arias
DF = Detective Flores
FO = Female Officer

Transcribed by TxJan1971 at yahoo dot com


00:26
DF: Do you want to talk about what happened that day? I’ve got the images in my head, and I can explain whatever it is you want about what I saw when I went there. What I can’t do is…I can’t show you pictures.

00:57
DF: What time did you get there that day?

01:08
DF: The pictures that I have, the first ones show you there at about 1:45 or so. Was it soon before that, or had you been there for awhile already?

01:28
DF: I know he has roommates are off of work during that time and don’t come home until about 6:30 or 7:00, and they don’t even talk to him really.

DF: It just seems like they just kinda’ rent rooms. They don’t really socialize and kinda’ stick to themselves, especially his new roommate.

01:56
JA: Who is that?

02:00
DF: Did you know his new roommate?

02:04
JA: I only knew Zach was there.

02:05
DF: Zach and Enrique was the other one.

02:08
JA: I think I saw Enrique at his funeral services, or I mean his memorial services, but I didn’t meet him or I didn’t know him.

02:15
DF: Mexican guy,

02:17
JA: Kinda short

02:18
DF: quiet, kind of reserved.

02:21
JA: His other roommate, Dustin, who was, I think, was in the room that shared Travis’ wall and John Hepworth who had the corner room.

02:31
DF: There was only Zach and Enrique there.

02:33
JA: Yeah, they had moved out.

DF: And those guys, we have all of their things as well, so, I mean they’re asking, too. Zach is going through so much right now. He’s like, “How could we have not known that he was there for days?” He racks his brain. He calls me 2-3 times a week, you know, just goes over and over in his mind. He has no idea.
He was the one who first went into the room and found him.

03:14
JA: He’s the one?

03:15
DF: Mmm hmm.

03:18
JA: I’ve heard so many rumors about how that happened.

03:21
DF: Yeah. Other friends came over looking for him, and they went into the room. There’s a few of them, they came out, and you know, they’ll never be the same. When you see something like that, it’s difficult, especially when it’s somebody you know, somebody you love. I deal with it all the time so it doesn’t bother me as much.

03:51
JA: You must have to remain detached quite a bit.

03:55
DF: Mmm hmm. You know who I usually get attached to… is the people I’m talking to. To you! You’re the one I’m going to remember. I’ll remember him but I didn’t know him. I will remember you. I mean we’ve talked so much since that day, over the phone and here, and I’ll probably talk to you some more later, when we get back to Arizona, whenever you go, I don’t know.

04:43
JA: (Whispers) I just don’t want to hurt anybody.

04:46
DF: I know. I know.

04:54
JA: I don’t think I can avoid it though. (Jodi wipes her eyes with her toilet paper)

04:57
DF: Everybody’s hurting already. There’s nothing else you could say or do that could help that except for maybe an explanation of why it happened or how it happened. (Sigh) It’s not my job to…

05:14
(Jodi picks up her water bottle and takes a drink)

05:14
DF: …have an opinion of you or your personality or character. It’s my job to sit here and talk to you and get the facts of the incident and present those to the court and whoever else needs to know.

05:45
DF: Do you want to try to open up and talk about what happened that day, because I’m ready?

05:52
JA: I do but I don’t think I’m ready. I mean, there’s not much to say.

06:00
JA: I just don’t…

06:02
DF: Do you want to start, and we can stop at any time you want?

06:08
DF: Fill in some details. This is what I do to assure that you’re not just saying you did something just to cop out, because there are certain details that only I know and the person who did this knows. Nobody else does. I use this information to confirm what I suspected. So if you can just start and give me some details as confirmation, then that will be fine, and if you want, we can continue at another time.

07:03
JA: (Whispers) Part of me just really wants to.

07:05
DF: Well, then let’s just start, because I know that part that really wants to is that part inside you that’s telling you to do what’s right.

07:25
DF: We don’t have to go over details, all the details.

07:34
(Jodi is sitting on the chair with both legs up on the chair bent, with knees close to her chest, feet on the front of her chair. She lowers her head to her arm which is resting across her knees and appears to be crying)

07:42
DF: Why did you go there that day, Jodi? Why did you show up that morning?

07:51
(Jodi wipes her nose and eyes with her toilet paper)

07:57
DF: I have questions, too. Were you gonna’ try to convince him not to go to Mexico or were you gonna’…

08:04
JA: Oh, no! (Sounds like a half cry half laugh exclamation)

08:05
DF: Try to convince him to go on a trip with you, or…

08:09
JA: No, he would never not go to Mexico. I would never want him to not go. He was going to see Chichen Itza. It’s on the list of 1,000 places.

08:17
DF: It’s one of the things I want to do in my lifetime.

08:20
JA: Yeah. It’s an important part of our history both in the church and our heritage.

08:30
DF: That’s where my people come from.

08:33
JA: Yeah.

08:37
DF: So why were you there that day? Please tell me. Did you just miss him?
Did he call you? Did he miss you? What was it?

(Silence)

08:59
DF: The only other explanation that I can think of is that you went there for one purpose, and that’s to hurt him. If that’s the case and that’s the truth then that’s what you need to say.

(Silence)

09:23
DF: If you want me to call and tell his family that you’re sorry and that you apologize for what happened, I can do that, whatever you want. This is your time right now. I flew up here for a lot of different reasons, and of them, the main reason was to sit down with you here to talk to you about what happened. I did it yesterday, and now I’m here today, but the time is limited.

10:12
JA: There’s so many things that I want to say.

10:16
DF: Start with one. Start with the beginning.

(Jodi puts hands over her face)

DF: Was it a last minute change from your trip to come down, go down to Arizona? I bet you were going through your head, should I just go or should I just keep going to Utah.

(Jodi stares off)

10:50
DF: It’s only an additional 300 miles from where you were, so…

(Silence)

11:14
DF: Jodi, your time is running out. I’m not going to be able to talk to you any more, and I want to. Once you get into the system, I’m not going to be able to talk to you anymore.

11:42
DF: You left so many questions unanswered for me and for his family and for your family.

11:56
DF: You were there that day, weren’t you?

(Silence)

12:05
DF: Were you guys alone?

12:17
DF: Can you answer that for me?

12:23
DF: Were you guys alone.

(Silence)

12:42
JA: Sorry. There’s so much that I just want…

DF: Answer that for me.

12:55
(Jodi throws toilet paper in the trash can

13:00
DF: Should I be looking for somebody else. Was there anybody else with you besides you and Travis?

13:10
DF: Are you protecting somebody else?

13:27
DF: Jodi…

13:28
JA: I’m sorry. I’m just… I just don’t know what to do. I’m trying to just figure it out.

13:38
DF: I’m right here. I’m right in front of you. This is what you need to focus on right now.

14:01
JA: (Whispers) I’m just trying to think here.

14:03
DF: You had Rachel call me for a reason, and that’s why I came back here.

14:10
JA: I had her call you about those photos – but I also thought because you communicate with the family more regularly. I just don’t know what to say. They deserve to have some peace.

14:31
DF: Well, do you want me to ask you the question that they’ve been asking me? Maybe you can answer it? It’s the same question I’ve been asking you. Was there somebody else with you? That’s the #1 question his whole family has been asking. What do I tell them?

14:57
DF: What do you want me to say to them, because the only answer I can give them is I don’t have any evidence to show that there was anybody else there. That’s another way of saying, I don’t know for sure, and that’s absolutely true. I don’t know if somebody else was there with you.

15:32
DF: Please give me that at least -- for them.

15:47
DF: You know, if there was, you don’t have to say a name. It’s a simple yes or no.

(Jodi has head in hands – looking up at the ceiling)

16:03
DF: Yes or no, Jodi.

16:09
DF: Look at me. Please. They want to know. Was somebody else there with you?

16:31
JA: I’m just trying to think.

16:50
DF: You keep fighting it.

16:49
JA: What would happen to me today, and from here on out, if I just told you every single detail right now and I gave you a confession?”

17:10
DF: Nothing else changes. It just speeds up the process.

17:19
JA: In what way? Do I go to Arizona faster?

17:22
DF: Yeah. The process in Arizona speeds up.

17:28
JA: So if I maintain my innocence, then I stay here longer?

17:32
DF: No, no you don’t really stay here longer. It speeds up the process in Arizona.

17:35
JA: Like the trial and all that jazz?

17:41
DF: Do you want to put your family through a trial? That’s another question you have to ask yourself.

17:52
JA: No. Can I do it all without a trial or does there have to be a trial?

17:56
DF: That’s something you can discuss with the prosecutor. I’m on the phone with him pretty much every day giving him updates.

18:07
JA: What’s his name?

18:08
DF: His name is Juan Martinez. He’s the #1 Prosecutor in Phoenix, well, at least in my book he is.

18:26
JA: (Unintelligible)

18:27
DF: Yes.

18:37
JA: I wonder if I should just get a lawyer first.

18:41
DF: That’s completely up to you

18:44
JA: I know that you can’t stay here forever and you need to do back. If I get one, will you be able to still talk to me afterward or does everything just stop or what?

18:53
DF: I’ll tell you exactly what a lawyer’s going to tell you to do. He’s gonna’ say, Nope!

18:57
JA: Nope on what?

18:58
DF: No more contact. She had her chance
You had your chance to talk to her. It’s over.

19:05
JA: Well, I mean, I just would just want his advice. It doesn’t necessarily mean that he umm…that I’m going to take his advice nor does it mean that…you know…

19:16
DF: That’s completely up to you, Jodi.

19:17
JA: …sitting in a cell somewhere not saying anything is not going is going to help me.

19:19
DF: I can’t advise you either way, but what I can advise you on is the truth. The details of the case that you have in your head that you can give me will allow me to verify the information that I have to make sure that I’m looking at the right person and to verify that nobody else was there with you.

20:03
DF: Like I said yesterday, there is no doubt what happened there that day. There’s a couple of details that I don’t have - how it started and why it started.

20:27
DF: Like I said before, if you can provide me with just a few, I can at least relay to the family. That would be fine with me.
We don’t have to go through all the details. Lets at least start.

20:55
(Jodi has her head down on table).

20:58
DF: Let’s start right here right now. If there’s a question that I ask you that you feel that you don’t want to answer, you can say, “No, I don’t want to answer that right now.”

21:00
JA: (Unintelligible)

21:54
DF: Do you want to move forward or not?

21:57
JA: Yes. I do. I just…

21:59
DF: You do?

22:00
JA: I do. I do, but…

22:03
DF: Well, let’s do it.

22:04
JA: I just…I know. I’m not trying to stall, I’m not trying to waste your time.

22:09
DF: I know you’re not trying to stall.

22:11
JA: It’s …

22:13
DF: I know it’s difficult for you. It’s difficult for anybody sitting in your shoes right now.

22:22
(Jodi crying – head on arms on table)

23:07
DF: You decide.

23:27
DF: I don’t want to push you. It’s your own free will. That’s one thing we have is our own free will.

(Silence)

24:08
JA: It’s kind of…it’s all blurry. It really is blurry.

24:29
DF: What went through your mind after it happened?

24:35
JA: (Whispers) Fear.

24:37
DF: A lot of fear? What did you think when you were driving away.

24:44
JA: (Whispers) I was scared.

24:53
JA: (Whispers) Unintelligible.

24:58
DF: I can imagine what you were going through waiting for it to finally come out.

25:06
JA: Waiting for what to come out? (Jodi is no longer whispering)

25:08
DF: The news that he was no longer with us. You must have been going through Hell. Every day that went by, what were you thinking?

25:30
JA: (Whispers) I was scared.

25:33
DF: What was that?

25:34
JA: I was scared. I’m sorry.

25:36
DF: That’s okay

25:41
DF: You just went on with your day like nothing happened.

25:45
JA: I had to.

25:46
DF: You had to. Did you tell anybody what had happened? That must have been hard.

26:10
JA: It’s all a blur. Can I please see those photos?

26:13
DF: As soon as they get back. Those detectives went to Reading to go pick up the rental car that you had that day and they took the photos.

26:26
JA: There’s probably something in the rental car.

26:29
DF: Like what

26:30
JA: Maybe blood. I don’t know.

26:34
DF: In the trunk? In the back seat?
That’s what we’re going to look for, so...

26:41
JA: I was just thinking maybe the handles, locks, steering wheel, things like that, things that get touched.

26:48
DF: Is that what was going through your head when you left? What did I leave behind? What did I touch?

26:55
JA: No.

26:57
DF: What was going through your head? (Unintelligible)

27:15
JA: A little bit of a survival instinct but mostly just fear.

27:28
DF: Were you worried that his roommates would get home soon?

27:38
DF: You didn’t think about that?

27:49
DF: That’s the first thing I was thinking about was, when she left here, she barely missed his roommates, or maybe his roommates came home and just didn’t hear her.

28:07
JA: Did they hear anybody at all in the house?

28:10
DF: No. They saw things which were unusual.

28:13
JA: Like what?

28:16
DF: They saw his CTR ring and his watch on the kitchen counter and they thought that was odd. He never leaves town without those.

28:23
JA: No, He always leaves those there unless he’s sleeping then he takes those things and puts them on.

28:29
DF: There were clues here and there but they just went on with their day like nothing had happened without even asking questions. They knew that he was going on a trip but they didn’t know what day.

28:42
JA: (Unintelligible) Tuesday

28:44
DF: Tuesday, that following week.

28:47
JA: That’s right.

28:51:
DF: (unintelligible) Monday. All those little things that they talk about now, Zach is killing himself. I don’t know how I did not see this. Why didn’t I just go check on him? Why didn’t I just follow my instinct and go look?

29:22
JA: Travis didn’t always bond with his roommates. He did with some. He bonded with Aaron, even though he had a low tolerance (unintelligible). He bonded pretty well with his friend Josh (unintelligible) back in California now.

29:34
DF: He wasn’t too close with Zach or Enrique.

29:37
JA: No, or his previous roommates. I don’t know…

29:40
DF: It seemed to have been just people who rent rooms out from him there. They don’t become friends. They have their own lifestyles and they go on.

29:52
JA: Yeah, his rules were LDS standards (unintelligible as music begins to end video)


END OF VIDEO #12
 

Attachments

  • Transcription - Video 12 - Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation.doc
    85.5 KB · Views: 8
Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation

Video 13

Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 13 - YouTube


JA = Jodi Arias
DF = Detective Flores
FO = Female Officer


Transcribed by TxJan1971 at yahoo dot com


00:25
DF: What time did you leave there that day?

00:35
JA: Uhh…

(Silence)

00:52
DF: You don’t remember? Just trying to drive and get as much distance as you could?

01:04
JA: Umm…

01:08
DF: How long were you in the house after it happened? I know you tried to clean yourself up and clean up what you could.

01:22
JA: Huh uh…I wasn’t…

01:23
DF: It didn’t take too long, but you did. Why did you throw the camera in the washing machine? We found blood in the downstairs bathroom where somebody had tried to wash their hands. There’s blood on the outside of the washing machine. There’s little things that give us clues to what you were doing afterwards? Do you remember those things?

01:59
JA: Huh uh…No.

02:00
DF: You remember some though. What was your intention going there that day?

(Silence)

02:13
(A sigh is heard – possibly Jodi)

02:24
DF: What was the purpose of the visit, the same as before?

(Silence)

02:40
JA: I’m just starting to remember. I’m just trying to remember that week, that whole week, and the week prior had a lot to do with it… the weekend or Friday night prior, I think.

02:51
DF: Did you have plans on going down there or, I know you said he had called and wanted you to come down. At what point did you decide, Okay, I’m going?

03:02
JA: He always was like, I don’t want to say meddling, but he was always like more concerned than I felt he needed to be about my finances, and he’s like, “Well, how can you make a road trip when you’re this that and that,” you know..

03:20
DF: Well, he expected everybody to be like he is.

03:23
JA: (Laughs). He did. He really did.

03:27
DF: He expected that, Hey, if you go on a road trip you better be thinking about this and that and…

03:32
JA: There were so many times that I just threw my responsibilities to the wind and went on road trips with him, because I am a little irresponsible when it comes to that. It’s not just because it was with him, it was because it was the traveling, and umm… you know…

03:45
DF: When he leave, he usually makes sure everything is planned out and...

03:48
JA: and that he has enough money for it (laughs).

03:52
DF: And you just kind of take off sometimes.

03:54
JA: Yeah, I guess…

03:55
DF: You’re a very, very free spirit

03:58
JA: and it’s not…

03:58
DF: ...and I’ve known that from the beginning. Sometimes it’s good. Sometimes it’s not so good.

04:03
JA: What gives you the indication like when you say you know that from the beginning?

04:07
DF: From talking to you, talking to people who know you. They’re just like, “Ah, that’s just Jodi,” you know.

04:15
JA: I am. I’m spacey… I’m just….

04:21
JA: Umm…

04:21
DF: When you want to go do something, you just go do it and you’ll deal with the consequences later.

04:26
JA: Yeah.

04:35
DF: When did you go decide to go visit him? At what point? Were you already on the road or was it from here? Did you already know you were going to visit him when you left here?

04:49
JA: Umm…

(Puts head in hands – bends head)

04:57
JA: Umm…

04:58
DF: I’ve done that before. Sometimes I just leave and, you know what, I’m going to go visit this person while I’m on the way.

05:18
JA: (Unintelligible. Jodi is fidgety and mumbles something…)

05:32
JA: Umm…you know…

05:38
JA: Go ahead.

05:39
DF: Did you see any of his roommate’s cars out in the driveway when you left? That part just bothers me, because it was so close to the time when one of the roommates came home, and I just…I’m thinking maybe you were still in the house when he was there.

05:58
JA: No. Umm…No, I was in the driveway.

06:03
DF: You were in the driveway? They would have seen the car then, right?

06:06
JA: Yeah. I know my space was always right behind Travis’ car and he parked in the… he has a 3-car garage and he took the middle space, and one of his roommates…

06:13
DF: The Prius?

06:14
JA: Yeah, the Prius or his BMW before that, and then there was like a smaller, little space but it was enough for a car, but it was always jammed with junk from his roommates.

06:23
DF: Yeah, I saw that.

06:24
JA: He was very much … he didn’t save stuff, you know. He had so much storage space. He was so generous whenever he let me store all my stuff there, because I went from a house to a room and so I had artwork, some of my paint, and art supplies, photos, books and books and books and books --so many books. Some of them weren’t even mine. They belonged to my friend, Matt. I was renting that car yesterday because I was taking a trip to Monterey and umm…

06:57
DF: To go visit Matt?

06:58
JA: Yeah, I was gonna’ drop off some books to him that I’ve had for years. We dated like 8 years ago, and we’re still friends, so umm….all his books somehow I ended up keeping and some were mine, some were like esoteric and spiritual kind of books and I’m probably not going to read now because they’re just so out there.

07:16
DF: I know. I’m sure they’re going to get them back to you.

07:20
JA: (Sighs)

07:21
JA: and then some photos, also, too. Darryl, who was another guy I dated after Matt that we bought the house together, and kitchen supplies. Darryl paid for so much when I was there, and he footed the bill at Costco, so I had umm…They said that they took knives out of my car. Umm…

07:38
DF: I don’t even know whose they are, you know.

07:40
JA: Oh, they’re Darryl’s and…

07:41
DF: Okay.

07:40
JA: they’ve been in storage for years, just collecting dust.

07:44
DF: That’s good to know that they’re his.

07:46
JA: Yeah, and like they were all his, maybe one might have been mine, but like, I just…I think they were Darryl’s, and so there’s those and a bunch of kitchen supplies and pictures of him and his son mostly when we used to go to 49’er games One time we just went on camping trip.

08:00
DF: So the car you had driven there was a rental car?

08:03
JA: Yeah.

08:04
DF: The Ford Focus?

08:05
JA: Oh!

08:06
DF: That’s the car…

08:07
JA: Oh! I thought you…

08:08
DF: …they’re gonna’ go pick up, the Ford Focus.

08:09
JA: Oh! Yeah.

08:10
DF: I know they were gonna’ rent you another car, but then something happened with that first car. Either you didn’t like it or…

08:17
JA: Oh, it was red, and I thought … ‘cause I always hear that you don’t drive a red car ‘cause I would never buy a red car, and, it was fine. It was a Ford Focus, too. Umm…

08:26
DF: And you got the other car you said, the white one…

08:27
JA: I said, “Do you have one with a more neutral color?” ‘cause I was like you always get pulled over and you get tickets. You know I don’t know if that’s true.

08:33
DF: That’s not true.

08:33
JA: …it’s just what I’ve been told since I…

08:35
DF: It’s just that a lot of people that have red cars like to go fast. It’s a personality thing. It’s not because of the car color.

08:44
JA: I just (unintelligible) it’s more noticeable (unintelligible).

08:48
DF: I know Travis doesn’t look his doors when he’s home. Was the door open when you got there, or did you have to go through the garage, or how did you get inside? Did you knock? Everybody says he leaves his doors open when he’s home. He trusts everybody.

09:09
JA: Umm…have you ever seen the movie, the Secret?

09:12
DF: I don’t think so.

09:13
JA: It’s kind of…if you’re familiar with the whole Law of Attraction kind of thing like the way you think you become or ran your life. He felt that if you lock your doors, then what are you telling the universe, what are you telling the ether out there and this and that, I need to lock my door for a reason.

09:29
DF: Yeah, I wanna’ be safe.

09:30
JA: Yeah, I wanna’ be safe, which also gives the impression that well, there’s somebody that can hurt me, so, and by trusting you know …

09:39
DF: He was a very, very trusting person, and that’s what made him who he is.

09:46
DF: Also, comes from a different kind of background and have a different type of philosophy.

09:55
JA: I do.

09:56
DF: Doing what I do for a living, I lock my doors.

09:59
JA: I can imagine. You know I guess me coming from Salinas, I’ve always locked my doors.

(Jodi speaks very fast during this response)

I used to go to sleep at night and I would hear gunshots (unintelligible), not that neighborhood, but our neighborhood neighbored another neighborhood that wasn’t that great, and gunshots carried and there …’cause Salinas is (Unintelligible) and there are a lot of fields, and I used to think that there were hunters in the fields with their dogs catching animals or something, but they’re all just gangs. I’m sorry, I’m not trying…

10:23
DF: That’s okay. I’ve noticed that when I talk to you, you kind of go off sometimes.

10:28
JA: Travis used to be like, “Get to the point!” Get to the point. And he…and that made me kind of mad. He had a little bit of a double standard of that ‘cause if you’ve ever, if you ever see him train or talk, ask any of the leaders in Prepaid Legal, he is notorious for going too long.

10:44
DF: Mmm Hmm.

10:45
JA: Umm…his friend, Dave Hall, in Utah cuts him off and he got mad at him once because he went 5 minutes over and he was, and he just talks and talks and talks, and I said, You know, “You’re kind of long winded yourself.”

10:56
DF: Well, he had a future in that. You know that’s what…

10:59
JA: Yeah.

11:00
DF: …he wanted to do, and he was good at it.

11:02
JA: He was so good.

(Sighs heard)

11:08
JA: He talks about things of more substance and I just ramble.

11:18
DF: So was the door unlocked when you got there?

11:26
DF: Did you… you went through the door or the garage? I know a lot of his friends have the key code for the garage, and he doesn’t keep that a secret either.

11:34
JA: Umm…

11:36
DF: I got that from several different friends.

11:43
JA: Yeah, 0817.

11:53
DF: Was he expecting you?

11:58
JA: (Jodi sighs)

12:07
DF: Yes?

12:09
DF: Did you surprise him? I know he was always happy to see you.

12:18
JA: (Jodi bows her head, covers her eyes/face with her hands)

12:22
DF: What you guys had was not wrong, Jodi.
In going over all his stuff, he was always happy to see you.

12:42
JA: (Jodi still has her hands covering her eyes/face and lets out a giggle)

He told me this time when … ‘cause I was in his ward boundary, so uh…one of my roommates went to his church, and they were to meet at some church activity and Travis was getting a ride, when he said his friend, Katy Barnes, was in the backseat. He was in another seat. There were two people in the front I guess they were all going to squeeze in and go to this church activity, and they were swinging by to pick up Amy, (Jodi laughs) my roommate, and I wasn’t there, I don’t think…(Unintelligible)

But he said he wasn’t doing much. He must have been on his phone or something texting, but he said they parked and he looked up and it was my house and he was like, “What are we doing here?” (Jodi laughs) and he freaked out! I started laughing so hard when he told me that story, and they’re like, “We’re getting Amy, she’s going with us.” “Oh, okay,” and he just kind of sat there twiddling his thumbs and they got Amy and she left.

13:37
DF: Was that after you guys broke up?

13:38
JA: Oh, yeah, because by the time I lived in that house we weren’t together…

13:40
DF: Yeah, that’s right.

13:42
JA: It was just funny because it just weirded him out. I don’t know what reminded me of that just now. You said something…

13:48
DF: He was happy to see you.

13:49
JA: Yeah. I don’t think he would… he would probably have been…it would have been awkward if he had been…because we kept…

13:54
DF: You guys had a different kind of relationship. You guys were happy to see each other but for some reason he couldn’t outwardly show it in public.

14:02
JA: He umm…

14:03
DF: He was afraid of his image and to him his image was everything.

14:09
JA: He told me on several occasions it saddened him and it bothered him. He had two friends in particular that gave him a very hard time about our friendship, and that was Chris and Sky. Umm, but I think they did it out of concern for his …his future…umm…like his marital status. Umm… yeah, why him and I continued (unintelligible) we were both just postponing what we should be focusing on instead.

14:38
DF: Well, you’re living life. God is what you make of it. It’s not set in stone.

JA: Yeah, I think you’re right. We just didn’t have our priorities in the right place.

DF: I know the church has a general plan. You go if you’re a guy, you go on a mission, you come back, you find a girl, you get married, you start having kids and start contributing to society and to your church.

14:59
JA: Yeah, that’s really not that…

15:03
DF: You…you came into something…I don’t know whether you came in with both feet or you still had one foot out but it’s a whole different society in that church.

15:14
JA: I…

15:15
DF: It’s an all or nothing…

15:16
JA: It is! It is…and I think that’s just because the church actually lives their standards

15:20
DF: And that’s what people struggle with
They have the utmost standards, and you look around and there’s not one person in that church in those pews who doesn’t’ need to be there, and if they were perfect, they wouldn’t have to go, and sometimes I think it’s a façade. I know. Travis kept trying to live up to those standards, but he’s a human being and he’s… both of you are mortal and you have free will and that’s that. Sometimes I think maybe he put too much pressure on himself to be perfect or to at least portray himself to be perfect.

16:24
DF: And that’s maybe why something like this happens. Things get way out of hand.

16:30
JA: I just… I… You know I’m not an evil person

16:35
DF: I know you’re not.

16:39
JA: but I’ve always had…I’m not a promiscuous person. Umm…

16:45
DF: Something attracted you guys to each other.

16:47
JA: Yeah, and I there was also I already knew him well. I knew him through and through. I loved him and I cared about him. I knew we weren’t going to get married so I just…

16:59
DF: How did you know you weren’t going to get married?

17:01
JA: Umm…A couple of reasons.

17:05
DF: It’s like oil and water? You guys just don’t mix?

17:08
JA: Oh, we mixed really well for a time but I think when I discovered his ways last year it was so hard but… umm...

17:18
DF: What ways were those?

17:20
JA: Umm he just didn’t seem like husband material but it didn’t mean that he wouldn’t be in the future it just meant that… umm…something that Chris & Sky said to me back in January of 2007 really stuck and I said, Do you want to be like Deanna and wait six years?

17:35
DF: Yeah.

17:37
JA: They made jokes saying, “If you wait six years, you can get free breast implants,” because he bought her breast implants at one point. And then they’re like, and then he’ll really (Unintelligible) you know, just all these things. And I was like, What? Why would they say these things? Anyway…That one part stuck, though, and I felt that, you know, women have, not all women, you know, not Mimi, and not certain other women, but most women just fall all over themselves for Travis because he’s nice, and he seems like the whole package.

18:07
DF: I think Mimi kinda’ saw through everything. There are some people out there they can see through stuff

18:
JA: I was um. I kinda’ did too. Like I had never been pursued by a person like that. Umm…but at the same time I saw… I’d like to say like Mimi saw through this but I saw beneath that and through that. Like he wrote that thing on his bog the Goal from Within, and I really did see like inside he was an amazing person. He was a good person. He was a generous person. He gave so much and he…

18:43
DF: Well, maybe you chose to actually look past that first level. Somebody like Mimi looks past that first level and sees that there’s something I don’t like already and I’m not going to look any further. You, on the other hand,

18:45
JA: She spends a lot of time at the Temple so I think… I’ve never been endowed. I’ve never been through the Temple but from what I understand I think that’s such a sacred place and mediating there and being there will help to give you further insight about where just you as a person are supposed to make a move on a certain decision in your life. So maybe that just wasn’t for her. I also was thinking after the fact I didn’t get a chance to discuss this with him. I didn’t know she was going to Cancun, and I didn’t know that she flat out told him no, but I thought...

19:26
DF: So that’s completely out of the theory that you went there to convince him to not go.

19:33
JA: Oh, yeah. No. Not at all. Not at all.

19:36
DF: ‘Cause that’s the first theory that was thrown out there was she was jealous. She knew that he was going to Cancun with this other girl and it was just jealousy.

19:46
JA: I never…I asked him at one point after I moved. I was like, “Hey, who are you taking to Cancun by the way?” I knew it wasn’t…at one point there was a girl named Brenda who in … she wasn’t actually involved, and she was in the business and she saw me at the memorial and she’s like, “Now, wasn’t he going to take you to Cancun?” and that was like…We found out about Cancun a year prior umm…right about the time we broke up so I never really assumed that I had a ticket there, and, you know, all those things went on. It was just never discussed. So there was never any discussion.

20:19
DF: That never went through your head then.

20:20
JA: Yeah. There was never a discussion that I was going to Cancun. Not on that trip. Not with him. Maybe sometime in the future, some other time with somebody else, but no, so that was not an issue.

20:28
DF: What about the trip of him coming up to you, come visit you? Was that something that was planned or was that something that…?

20:34
JA: Yeah, it was supposed…

20:34
DF: Because I wasn’t even sure that that was true.

20:37
JA: No. No. He was supposed to come twice. He was gonna’ maybe come up as… and I kinda’ like was hoping he would come by March, I’m sorry, May 24th, because I was singing the National Anthem at the races and I thought… I just... it’s part of one of my goals for this year was one of my fears to overcome was being in front of large crowds or public speaking, um…so

20:58
DF: You have anxiety with crowds?

20:59
(Jodi is talking really fast during this!)

20:59
JA: Yeah. There were three fears: one was handguns, which was one of the reasons I got a gun. There was this huge (unintelligible) in town who said he would take me out and go target practicing, and I went to the sporting goods store several times to see what he had, and they were all in the $500-$600 range for the kind that I want, so they were too expensive, but then there was this one it was cheap, it was $100 and some dollars and I said, All right, let’s do it. So I put my money down and got my little 10 day background check and all that, so…then I got it and I was happy, you know. Umm…and then the third one was skydiving. So I was going to do that sometime this year, but he wasn’t able to make it up for the… he was scared to tell me that, too. He was like, “I know you get really upset...”

21:38
DF: Why was he scared?

21:39
JA: Not scared, umm… hesitant…

21:40:
DF: He didn’t want you to be upset.

21:41
JA: He didn’t want to hurt my feelings, and he told me that. He was on the phone in early May ‘cause I had known about that I was going to sing about 8 weeks prior, about 8 weeks prior… yeah… cause I had approached the guy at the state… down by the Purple Plum which is the one by middle (unintelligible). He works at the gas station area.

21:58
DF: I ate there this morning.

21:58
JA: Oh, really? It’s petty good food.

22:01
DF: You used to work there, didn’t you?

22:02
JA: Yeah. They’re good people.

22:04
DF: I went to go eat there and I couldn’t get it out of my mind, Jodi used to work here, constantly thinking about you, because of this.

22:18
JA: It was a good place to be. I worked there twice actually, when I was 18 or no, my dad closed his restaurant when I was 16 or 17 and that’s when I was a server there, and being a server in a restaurant is probably one of the best positions because you tend to make a little more money than the other positions.

22:33
DF: Yeah. Tips.

22:34
JA: It’s all contingent, but you know generally it works out in your favor.

22:37
DF: You’ve got that personality that people want to tip you.

22:42
JA: Yes.

22:44
DF: So when he didn’t come up. was there an issue with that? Did you talk about that?

22:47
JA: Umm… well he put it so delicately that I couldn’t be mad. I was sad but I wasn’t mad or anything. He said, he’s like, I’m just not sure. H said, “There’s a lot of stress going on. There’s a lot of things right now, you know, this and that stuff going on,” and he’s like, “I’ve been hesitating to tell you, but it looks like I might not be able to make it up there to watch you sing, and I’ve been scared to tell you that,” and I was like, “Aw….” you know. He says it, and he taught me this, his technique, he says it in a way to disarm you first, to where you’re just like, Oh, now, you know, like reverse psychology, sort of. So he said that, and I could really tell that he really was concerned that he would hurt my feelings.

23:24
DF: Is that when you decided or he decided to come invite you up?

JA: Uh, no. No, not at all, ‘cause he never...He didn’t invite me until he found out I was going on a road trip. But, then he’s like, he’s all, “Definitely the first week of June.” He’s all “probably before I go to Cancun,” and so um…as that week got closer you know, he was like…”look”…We had a big fight somewhere around then.

23:53
DF: Mmm hmm.

23:54
JA: Umm…I don’t remember the exact timeline but it was in late May, and…

24:03
DF: Was that one of the e-mails that you sent him, or?

24:07
JA: Which…? Oh…

24:07
DF: the large e-mail…the…your relationship and…

24:11
JA: (Jodi speaks very fast during this response)
Oh, just how I think that… Yeah, ‘cause I just could tell, uh…Oh, because I edited and I did all the editing and the grammar and spellings, he’s not a very good speller, that umm…on his…on his first chapter of his book, and he wanted to post it on his bog, and I noticed when he posted the introduction, he’s like, “Special thanks to Katie Barnes,” and I’ve no jealousy towards her, she’s just a great girl, and you know there’s nothing there to worry about. In fact, when…when…when I was worried about Lisa uhh…Andrews and Alana (?) Gomez, her best friend, they were all spending a lot of time together, and so I wasn’t sure, and she would post flirtatious things on his My Space, and he’s like, “Don’t worry about that.” He’s like, he said at one point, he’s like, “If you have anything to worry about, it’s Katie Barnes,” and so I was like, “You are so spin it just throwing the focus off something,” and I don’t think there was ever any concern with that. I know that he liked her, but nothing more and as a friend, and he said, “She’s a little freaky and emotional unstable sometimes, but I think she’s just young. She’s a nice girl.” So he said that, and I’m like, “Hey make sure you post a special thanks to Jodi Arias for editing,” and he’s like, “You know I can’t do that,” and I was like, “Why not?” and he’s like, “Jodi we’ve discussed this,” and what he meant was, umm people…I made a few comments ‘cause he was like, “leave me comments on my Bog, and rate me 5 stars, you know and that kind of thing, so it looks like people are going there. So I left a few comments and he saw people who already said things, and he was referring to Sky Hughes who was like, “Hey I noticed a certain someone has been commenting on your Bog,” and I think it’s because he had given her the… and I told him to say this, too, umm, okay, I’ll be real quick ‘cause I know this is all… I’m just giving you background. We sat next to each other at the last convention, at a prepaid legal convention in Oklahoma City. That’s because we buy our tickets way in advance. So we bought our tickets last year, and because he
qualifies for Executive Director every month which is one of the top levels in the company, he gets to sit on the floor close to the front, that’s close to the stadium seats. So you know I had a ticket. He bought a ticket for me at the time. So it wasn’t a big deal, but we were just sitting next to each other, but she made a comment, you know. He, of course, has to explain, “Listen, we got our tickets a year ago and there’s no way she’s going to give up her seat for stadium seats.” So he sent that ticket, I mean he sent that text either to her friend, Holly, or to her or someone.

Anyway, umm… I realized that she was giving him a hard time so I said, “Listen, tell her next time she says anything that Jodi is dating other people and that she’s moving to California,” because it was already in the plans to move to California.

26:51
DF: I don’t understand why they just couldn’t, why he couldn’t just tell them that you guys were still friends. What issue is it?

26:58
JA: I wondered that, too, and he said it’s because they…Him and Sky had a lot of arguments but It wasn’t because they disliked each other. It’s because they both have sort of fiery personalities. She’s very… she has… umm…a strict set of standards…ummm…and he’s just like, Hey, so together that’s Kaboom, and uhh… but nonetheless they were best friends, especially him and her husband Chris, and a lot of their fights were about me from what I gathered. I don’t know a lot about that

27:37
DF: Is that what the e-mail was about the whole story?

27:40
JA: Yeah. We had that conversation and I walked to work because I was you know… (unintelligible as music playing)


END OF VIDEO #13
 

Attachments

  • Transcription - Video 13 - Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation.doc
    93.5 KB · Views: 12
Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation

Video 14

Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 14 - YouTube

JA = Jodi Arias
DF = Detective Flores
FO = Female Officer

Transcribed by TxJan1971 at yahoo dot com


00:17
(Jodi giggles throughout this response)

JA: We spent the day in Scottsdale and when we were done, umm…we drove to his house, but Deanna was there waiting for him for some reason, to visit or something, and he was so scared that she would see him in my car that I practically had to keep the car rolling and kick him as I drove by his house, and he’s like, “Don’t even put it in park. Just roll up real quick,” and he jumped out, shut the door, and he was like, “Now go, go, go” and I was like, “Okay,” and I just kind of laughed at that. That was August 18th. Umm…

00:47
DF: So I see the type of relationship, I mean, it’s exactly what I thought it was.

00:51
JA: Well, his thing with Deanna was, and I don’t think that he had anything physical going on with her. I don’t know. I don’t think so. Umm…I know that for a time there was and then…She’s pretty strong in that category I think, as far as her values and standards go. Umm…

01:09
DF: So why this trip this time? I know you said he couldn’t…he canceled on you even coming up here in the first part of June, right? Why did you end up going there then? Was it because he couldn’t go and you guys still wanted to see each other?

01:29
JA: Well, when his umm….trip the 2nd time got postponed, umm… it was probably the last week of May that I…that you know… it was kind of obvious that he wasn’t going to come then, but he said, “Listen, after Cancun, umm I have like two weeks that I’ll have nothing going on before I go to D.C. He’s like, “I think that’s the best time. He’s like, “I’m going to see if it works out for my friends up north, Chad Perkins his friend and Norma, (?) his wife, and we can do it all then. I said, “All right,” but at that time I was like, “Whatever!” “We’ll see. I might just not see you until till I go back to Utah.” (Unintelligible) do at the end of the month…

02:15
DF: So did he know you were coming, the first part of June?

02:18
JA: Umm I wasn’t even…like I had been talking with Ryan at this point, and obviously there’s a distance there, and that was difficult and he really wanted to spend time with me, and I really wanted to spend time with him, and it just seemed like he had made a few comments like, “When am I going to come out there,” and, I was like, “As soon as you want,” you know, but I didn’t think he was serious, and uh…

02:39
DF: Is this Ryan you are talking about?

02:40
JA: Ryan Burns.

02:42
JA: Umm…so finally, umm…things began to work out at Casa Ramos with my schedule, which is a Mexican Restaurant and I had a three-day weekend there, so I thought I’ll make this… take this opportunity and go see Ryan, and that was my intention.

03:02
DF: What happened when you left? Why did you go the other way?

(Silence)

03:14
DF: That’s my question.

03:16
JA: You know…

03:16
DF: Why go to see Travis if you are going to see Ryan as well, and did Travis know you were coming? He knew? I saw you kind of shake your head a little bit.

03:34
JA: This is hard.

03:35
DF: It’s okay. Did he know you were coming? Did you guys talk on the phone?

03:49
JA: (Whispers) (Unintelligible)

03:50
DF: What was the discussion about?

03:55
JA: Gordon Hinckley, mostly.

03:57
DF: The last conversation you had?

03:58
JA: The last long one. We talked a little bit prior.

04:01
DF: Did you guys talk when you were en route to Phoenix?

04:07
JA: Yeah, just briefly. I told him my phone was dying, which was true. I thought I left my charger in Monterey with Matt. I really, honestly thought that I left my charger there, and I had been talking all day between, just on the phone umm… I take lots of pictures of myself (laughs).

04:31
DF: I noticed. (Laughs)

04:34
JA: Umm…because I am kind of picky about it, and I guess I take and delete, delete, delete, I take like 20 of them and then I delete, delete, delete.

04:42
DF: Keep one.

04:43
JA: Yeah, keep two or three or one or none depending…and uh…so I talked a little bit with John Dixon who, I was maybe going to go to San Diego. Umm…there’s another place on the list there, too.

04:56
DF: That was on the same trip?

04:57
JA: Yeah, it’s a little ambitious, but I thought . . .

05:00
DF: Gosh, that’s like 2,500 – 2,800 miles.

05:02
JA: It doesn’t bother me. I think I put like 2,400 miles on the car . . .

05:06
DF: I can’t stand driving 45 minutes somewhere.

05:10
JA: Yeah (laughing). Where are you flying out of?

05:14
DF: Uh…Oregon.

05:15
JA: Medford? Yeah, that’s good. It’s about an hour. Anyway, it’s a pretty drive. Umm… so it was a little ambitious, but I like road trips and sometimes I have realistic view of things, unrealistic about my time, I tend to show up a little later than expected, which is not unusual for me but . . .

05:39
DF: So he knew you were coming? He was expecting you? Obviously you guys had, you know, a little encounter. Is that when those pictures were taken? Did he even show you those pictures?

(Silence)

06:16
DF: It’s going to be all right, Jodi.

06:26
JA: I feel really powerless in here.

06:31
DF: I know.

06:32
JA: Do you know what my family is doing today?

06:35
DF: No.

06:37
JA: Do you know if they are good . . . ?

06:42
DF: I haven’t talked to them today. I know they’re worried about you. Everybody is just kind of in limbo right now.

(Silence)

07:05
DF: So obviously there was nobody else at the house when you got there. His roommates were gone. Well, there was Napoleon, but . . .

07:16
JA: He’s a person, too. (Laughing)

07:19
DF: Yeah, I got to meet Napoleon.

07:21
JA: He is so awesome.

07:23
DF: But nobody else was there?

07:25
JA: I think his roommates were there.

07:27
DF: You think his roommates were there? Were their cars there? You would have had to see their cars. You parked in the driveway, right?

07:39
JA: Yeah.

07:41
DF: One roommate parks in the garage and the other one parks outside.

07:45
JA: Well, I know Zach would park on the street a lot when I lived there before, and he pulled his car in the garage whenever he would work on it.

07:52
DF: What makes you think his roommates were there?

07:55
JA: I asked him.

07:57
DF: What did he say? Who was home?

08:00
JA: He said they were there, but I don’t know who. The reason I asked because it’s kind of an indication of how quiet we have to be.

08:12
DF: What time was that? Do you remember what time you rolled in?

08:19
JA: Umm… 3 o’clock a.m. It was dark.

08:32
DF: Wednesday morning?

08:36
JA: I think.

08:37
DF: Yeah, that makes sense.

08:45
DF: You’re pretty sneaky. You go up there and the roommates don’t even know that you’re there (chuckles).

08:49
JA: I did that many, many, many nights.

08:51
DF: How did they not see your car?

08:53
JA: Ummm...

09:00
JA: I don’t know. I was parked there.

09:01
DF: Oh, you know what! Zach was house sitting for his girlfriend. His girlfriend was on a trip with uh…, on a cruise with her parents, and he was staying the night at… and I think he was staying the night at…

09:15
JA: That makes sense because I want to say that…he said his roommate was home but I don’t remember, but I think he said one roommate was home.

09:21
DF: One roommate. Enrique, he gets up about 5:30, 6:00 in the morning . . .

09:26
JA: And if I’m correct, then Enrique’s has the room that shares the wall with Travis’ room, which is fine, and you know, it’s a KB home. Travis used to say the walls are really, really thin.

09:37
DF: Yes, they skimp on that part.

09:40
DF: Yeah, so Enrique was home, so you went in around 2 or 3 in the morning. But he gets up about 6, and…no he leaves the house about 6 in the morning, and he didn’t notice anything different. Did you guys spend the whole day together then, that following day? Did you guys go anywhere or just stay in the house?

10:07
JA: Slept.

10:09
DF: Well, after a long trip I’d sleep, too.

10:12
JA: Travis stayed up all night waiting. He was watching something on You Tube, some stupid video. He’s like, “You gotta’ see this,” and I’m watching and I’m like, “This is so boring. What’s the point of that?” He’s like, “Just stupid, pointless stuff.” I’m like, “Okay.” I guess everyone’s got to have their time to veg out being so driven and deep as he is for business, which is fine that he watches stuff like that. It wasn’t anything profane or bad or vulgar, it was just people dancing, but they had like boxes of foil on their head. It was like weird, like robotic kind of music.

10:58
DF: The pictures that I showed you of you laying on the bed and stuff, was that when those were taken that day?

11:06
JA: We also made a video but we deleted it.

11:10
DF: A video on his camera? Videos are hard to get once they are erased, they take up so much room and … whereas pictures are a little different.

11:30
JA: Umm…

11:32
DF: What happened after that? What went wrong? I know that the last photos of him were taken about 5:20, 5:30, and you said he doesn’t like… he doesn’t like you to take pictures of him and stuff.

JA: He was very private about the shower like we…

DF: (Laughs) Was that why you were taking pictures of him in the shower? (Laughs)

11:53
JA: No, no.

11:56
DF: (Laughs) Trying to get back at him?

11:57
JA: No. Um…

12:04
DF: I’m surprised he allowed you to take pictures of him in the shower. The first few looked like he wasn’t too comfortable, but, obviously, whatever you were saying to him made him a little more comfortable.

12:18
JA: I remember all that pretty clearly.

12:21
DF: You remember that?

12:27
DF: What went wrong? Did he say something to you? Were you angry about something? Were you frustrated? What was it?

13:04
DF: Something happened at that point, and I don’t know what it was.

13:11
JA: What are they going to do with the rental car? Are they going to bring it here?

13:14
DF: Mmm hmm. There were several photos of him, and the last one that we have is of him sitting in the shower, and that’s when I think it happened. He was sitting down looking up at you. What did you do? What happened, Jodi? You’ve gone this far. Did you plan on doing that the whole time?

14:20
JA: (Whispers) No.

14:22
DF: Then why? Tell me. I don’t believe you planned it, but then I don’t understand why, why you took a gun with you.

14:41
JA: Oh, I didn’t.

14:42
DF: Where was that gun from, then? Where did you get it? Everybody says he didn’t have one. Where did you get it if you didn’t take it? Did he have one in the house?

15:12
JA: Not to my knowledge.

15:16
DF: Then where did you get it? Did you bring it with you? Did you get it there in Arizona?

15:35
JA: I didn’t ever have it actually, like having in my possession.

DF: Then who had it? If you didn’t have it and Travis didn’t have it, then who had it? Jodi, please!

16:09
JA: I can’t!

16:11
DF: Why not? Are you protecting somebody else? Why would someone else do this?

16:30
JA: I don’t know.

16:37
DF: Did someone catch you there? Someone not expecting you to be there?

16:45
JA: They would have seen my car.

16:50
DF: Then who was it?

16:58
JA: (Whispers) I don’t know their names. Listen, I will tell you… I can tell you everything that I know or that I remember …

17:14
DF: Okay, what do you remember; from the time you were taking the pictures to the time you left, what happened? What happened after that last picture was taken? You have to tell me.

(Silence)

18:06
DF: If you want me to believe someone else was there, you have to show me. (Jodi crying) You have to explain what happened. Otherwise, it was just you, and if that’s the case, that’s okay. That’s okay as well.

18:27
JA: (Crying) It’s better if everyone thinks that.

18:34
DF: If everyone thinks it was just you? No, it’s not.

18:38
JA: (Crying) It is. Really, you have no idea.

18:40
DF: I do.

18:43
JA: No. You have no idea.

18:50
DF: You’re going through your own things right now. If somebody else was there with you, we need to know that. Why would somebody do that just because you are there with Travis?

19:10
JA: (Whispers). They didn’t say.

19:12
DF: Hmm???

19:12
JA: They didn’t say.

19:13
DF: He didn’t say? They. What was the first thing they did to him? You were there. You saw it. What was the first thing?

19:36
JA: I actually didn’t see it, I heard it, first.

19:40
DF: Was there an argument? No?

19:46
JA: Umm…Not between Travis and I.

19:49
DF: Any argument between anybody?

19:57
JA: (Whispers) Yeah. Is there any way I can see those pictures? I just…

20:04
DF: No, not right now.

20:05
JA: Can I see them soon? I will…

20:11
DF: You need to start letting me know what happened. You’re telling me that some other people were there. You know how much that concerns me?

20:26
JA: I don’t know who they were. They know where I live or they know where my parents are. I don’t know if they know where my grandparents are, but they got my address. They know where my family is. Sorry.

20:46
DF: So you’re trying to say that you’re doing this to protect your family? Why would someone do this to you and to him?

20:59
JA: I don’t think they really intended to do anything to me.

21:04
DF: You’re saying someone followed you all the way to Arizona from here?

21:09
JA: No, I don’t think that. I think I was an element of surprise for them.

21:14
DF: You were an element of surprise? So they didn’t expect you to be there.

21:17
JA: I am guessing, I don’t think so.

21:19
DF: They didn’t expect you to be there?

21:25
JA: I mean they had to have seen my car.

21:25
DF: Is it someone who lives in Mesa locally?

21:28
JA: I didn’t recognize them.

21:31
DF: Well, you have to give me a motive. Why did they do this? Were they going after Travis? For what reason? You tell me this, but you give me no reason.

21:48
JA: They didn’t discuss much, they just argued.

21:51
DF: About what?

21:52
JA: About whether or not to kill me.

21:54
DF: For what reason?

21:57
JA: Because I’m a witness.

21:57
DF: A witness to what?

21:58
JA: Him. Of Travis.

22:01
DF: Of Travis’ murder?

22:02
JA: Yeah, but I didn’t really witness it. I didn’t see much. I just…

22:11
DF: You need to make this believable because it’s not believable to me right now. You need to give me something.

22:20
JA: Okay, I just, listen…

22:24
DF: I am listening, Jodi, I am listening, and it just doesn’t make any sense to me.

22:29
JA: That’s fine because my family will ...

22:35
DF: Well, help us protect your family, if that’s the case.

22:40
JA: They got my driver’s license. It has a P.O. Box on it.

22:42
DF: Mmm hmm.

JA: Then they got my registration out of my purse which was in the purse that I was using at the time, and it has my parent’s address on it.

22:59
DF: Why would they do this? Do you see where I am coming from? Why, what kind of beef did they have with him, or was it with you or . . . . You need to make this believable. People just don’t go in somewhere and kill somebody for no reason and then let a witness go. That doesn’t happen. They have already killed one person, why not just take care of the other? You know who they are, if you are telling me the truth.

23:35
JA: I don’t know them.

23:39
DF: Then I don’t believe you either. I can’t, you can’t expect me to. I want to . . .

23:52
JA: Umm…I wasn’t planning on going to Travis’ house. I was going to go to Santa Cruz. Well, I wasn’t planning on going to Santa Cruz; I was going to Monterrey, but by that time I called Matt, he was like, “We’re in Santa Cruz, meet us here,” and I said, “Okay.” So I went to the Red Room there, which is just a little kind of hang out for locals and younger kids our age, sort of, 20 somethings and 30 somethings, and I stayed the night in Monterrey that night, got up the next morning and visited with Darryl and his son before he went to school. Umm… drove…this is Tuesday the 3rd, umm…and driving to LA, I hadn’t heard back from Laura yet, but that’s what…It wasn’t until I got to LA where I thought. I was looking at my map and Utah wasn’t really on there but, I mean, Arizona, ‘cause it was to Utah on the Map quest directions I printed. Umm, okay, I just, I just see like… I’ve seen the Sopranos and they are not Mafia or anything, but, you know, I just, I honestly, there’s a part of me inside that thinks they are never going to come after my family.

25:07
DF: Well, from what you’re telling me and from what I know about Travis and all his dealings, there’s no reason anyone would go after him. Nothing! So what you are telling me about two people coming in or however many people coming in and taking care of him and letting you go, it just sounds so farfetched to me. Why would they do this, what were they arguing about? What did they say, their details?

25:36
JA: They didn’t say a lot. They were white Americans from what I could tell. They had, umm…ummm…what do you call those things? They are like beanies but they cover your whole face, and they’ve got like holes for your nose and eyes . . . .

25:53
DF: Ski mask?

25:57
JA: One was black, I think they were both black or dark blue or something. It was Anyway, umm it wasn’t until I was in LA and Laura wasn’t getting back to me, and it was already like 9 something and I was like maybe I will just go see Travis briefly. I called Ryan and I said, my phone was about to die and ummm I tried getting a hold of Matt, I got his voice mail. I was going to ask him if my charger was there and he could save it or mail it or something. Umm…so I just, I had a wall charger, I think, and I was just going to charge it later, I guess, when I got somewhere. Anyway, I did call Travis, and I said, “Guess what?” and he said, “What?” and I said, “I’m coming to Arizona tonight,” and there was silence, and then he goes, “Really? and I said, “Yeah” and he said, “What made you change your mind?” and I just said, I just…‘cause I told him I missed him or something, but I would have said because you are too compelling, but like he is too, he’s already got a big enough head about that stuff.
So I showed up, and he was looking at You Tube on his computer, on his laptop, in the office. We watched that for a little while, and he was very happy to see me. Napoleon barked, but he always barks when somebody walks in, but then he was really happy to see me and he gets so excited. He does this thing with his butt where he goes around in circles over and over and over till he realizes, stop going in circles. So it was a good reunion. I told him I was tired. I don’t know what his intentions were or what he thought my intentions were at the time, but I was very exhausted from the trip, and I just said, “I think I’m going to sleep,” and he said, “That’s fine.” I slept pretty well the day before, but I was tired from driving all night, so I slept and he slept and we must have slept until about 1:00.

28:23
DF: In the afternoon?

12:24
JA: Yes, it must have been around then, and his roommate was home when I got there. I have never seen his roommate, though, so I must have been asleep by the time he got up and left. Okay, if you don’t believe me, that’s okay.

28:43
DF: I am trying to. I’m trying really hard.

28:46
JA: I’m just saying that, you know, it sounds to me like umm… like I’m already in the system, pretty far in. I’m not getting out anytime soon and as long as the rap falls on me I think… No, I’m just saying that as long as that is… there’s less of a chance that my little brother who is going to be hurt or my mom or dad or my sister that live there.

29:13
DF: Well, continue on with the story, about one o’clock…

29:19
JA: Yes, we had sex a couple of times. Once was in his bed and once was again downstairs in his office. He was looking at some pictures that I had brought for him, but he has a virus on his computer, so when he clicked the Start menu on Windows XP or Windows 2000 or whatever, you have like My Pictures, My Music, My Computer. You can usually click on My Computer and then go into the disc drive and open that. He clicked the Windows and it come up and none of that My Pictures, My Music, none of that would come up, so he had some kind of virus he was dealing with. His screensaver was a bunch of little bugs eating up the screen. It was just weird, and he said that is from the virus, too. I said, “That’s a cute screensaver,” and he said, “Yeah, it’s my stupid virus.” For some reason, that was frustrating for both of us, because we couldn’t look at the pictures, and they were from a lot of our church history trips which are on my other external drive which I haven’t been able to access for a long time, since after Christmas, because it just quit, and I just haven’t had the money to spend to get all that stuff back.

30:41
DF: So you guys worked with that for awhile or…

30:44
JA: Yeah, we had three discs, I think.

30:50
DF: So what time is this now you guys are messing with the computer?

30:54
JA: Um…I don’t really remember, it was after we had...

30:59
DF: A couple of hours or so later?

31:00
JA: Yeah. Yeah. Maybe, after noon. I just, you know…He had been cleaning his house umm…so I couldn’t… I wasn’t sitting on the couch. Usually I would just chill on the couch downstairs, you know, if no one was home. Umm…but he had like chairs and all that stuff all over the couch. I think he was cleaning the floors or something, uhh…fed Napoleon. I don’t know if he made phone calls or not or what he was doing on the internet, but at one point he was going to go up and take a shower and it took a lot of convincing prior when he was shaving. I was like, I got some ideas, and they didn’t turn out good at all, not like I wanted to, but I thought that I could get some cool pictures of him shaving, ‘cause he does the whole old-fashioned thing with like this little, I don’t know how it works. Umm…but he liked it though, apparently, because he used it for his profile picture on My Space. Umm…so those didn’t turn out as good and I was going to do that later but I asked him if I could take pictures of him in the shower, and he’s like, “No.” I was just like, “I have an idea.” “Well, what do you mean?” I was like, I said, I saw this thing in a Calvin Klein ad once and it looked really good, and you’re right, he wasn’t really comfortable at first. He’s standing there and he says, “I feel gay.” (Laughs)

32:29
DF: (Laughs) He has that look on his face.

32:33
JA: So some I deleted and some I kept taking umm…and some he looked really good, I thought. The one that you showed me yesterday looking right at you, I think that is a great picture. He hates it. I don’t know what he hates about that. I think it’s a very good picture of him.

32:51
DF: So you were taking pictures and showing him?

32:54
JA: Yeah. Yeah. His shower door was open. His water pressure in that shower isn’t that great, so it’s not like water was going everywhere.

END OF VIDEO #14
 

Attachments

  • Transcription - Video 14 - Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation.doc
    75 KB · Views: 11
Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation

Video 15
Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 15 - YouTube


JA = Jodi Arias
DF = Detective Flores
FO = Female Officer

Transcribed by TxJan1971 at yahoo dot com


00:18
DF: What happened when the last picture was taken?

00:25
JA: He was kneeling down in the shower. I don’t remember.

00:31
(Jodi becomes animated and begins to use her hands/body to demonstrate)

00:32
JA: He’s like…if this is the shower and the sink is over here, I was like right here taking pictures, and I don’t really know what happened after that exactly, except I think he was shot.

00:48
DF: Where were you?

00:51
(Jodi becomes animated during this response, gets up from her chair and begins to demonstrate where everything was in Travis’ bathroom. She proceeds to kneel on the floor to show Detective Flores where she was crouched)

00:52
JA: Umm… if this is his shower and he was sitting here, I was like…Well, if this is his shower, and he’s sitting here, I was like right there on my knees, and his bathtub was right here, and I was taking them here, and I was just going through the pictures, and I heard this loud ring,

01:09
(Jodi gets up and sits back in her chair. Jodi pulls both of her feet up onto the edge of the chair seat, positioned such that her entire body is on the seat of the chair, knees level with her shoulders)

01:12
JA: and…I don’t really remember except Travis was screaming. I think I got knocked out, but I don’t think I was out long. I know I got knocked in the head, and I’ve gotten knocked in the head once by my dad when he was just really mad, and it wasn’t like… Actually, he didn’t knock me in the head, he just pushed me against the wall, and I hit my head and I fell, but he…In this case I think it was similar because he uh… was screaming, and I was by the bathtub, and he was holding his head, and there were two people there and…

01:54
DF: What did you see?

01:57
JA: Umm…I remember putting my hand on his back, because he was on all four of his knees. He was like

02:10
(Jodi gets up, moves to the floor on all fours, positioning herself and demonstrating what position Travis was in as she describes this to DF)

02:11
JA: …on his knees like this doing something like this or something like, I don’t know…and

02:15
(Jodi gets up off the floor and returns to her chair, pulling both of her feet up onto the chair seat as previously described at 01:09)

02:16
JA: I was like, “Are you okay? What’s going on? What’s going on?” and he’s like, “Go get help! Go get help!” and I said, “Okay!” I turned around. There were two people there, one was a guy and one was a girl. I couldn’t tell that at first, but you could see one was a girl and one was a guy because of their build and their voices. Um…I remember what they were wearing like maybe jeans, um…

02:52
DF: What did they say?

02:53
JA: One was in all black and one was in jeans.

02:57
DF: Did they say anything?

03:01
JA: Yeah, the girl wanted to kill me, too.

03:04
DF: What did she say? What words did you hear? What phrases?

03:13
JA: Umm…”Who is that? Who is that?” I thought he was by himself or alone or something and… He was like, “Shut up, just finish it,” and Travis was screaming the whole time. He wasn’t screaming like a girl. He was just like… like he was in pain… like he was like shocked, like “Ahhhh,” you know. He wasn’t really moving though, you know, he was just kind of staying still on the floor.

03:48
DF: Then what happened?

03:51
JA: Well, as soon as he said, “Go get help,” I turned around and they were there and…

03:55
DF: Where were they?

03:57
JA: They were in the bathroom.

03:58
DF: Where at in the bathroom – out in the hallway or in the bathroom?

04:00
JA: The girl was in the hallway, kind of. Um…and the guy was more toward in the bedroom, but like still in the bathroom, like on the tile carpet area right there where it starts.

04:14
DF: Okay.

04:19
JA: and… he started coming in toward the bathroom, too, and I… (Puts head down on table).

04:32
JA: It was…

04:35
DF: What happened? What happened, Jodi? What did you see?

04:48
(Jodi crying) I chickened out like a little bytch.

04:59
DF: You took off?

05:00
JA: I ran, and he stopped me when he… (crying)

05:05
DF: He stopped you?

05:06
JA: Travis. Umm…he was…umm… he was still like conscious and still alive.

05:16
DF: You just left him there?

05:18
JA: No, I ran into the closet, because there are two doors, and they were sort of in the hallway already, and he stopped me, and he didn’t touch me. He was just…held the gun to my head and he said, “You don’t go anywhere,” and he told the other girl to finish it, but I didn’t see. Umm…but, he was like…he wasn’t saying a lot but…umm…

05:59
DF: What happened?

06:00
JA: He told me to stay there and not to move.

06:03
DF: Where was that – in the closet?

06:04
JA: No, it was um…

06:06
(Jodi reaches across the table and grabs DF’s tablet, turns the top page over to begin drawing on a new, clean page)

06:08
JA: It was like this. Sorry.

06:13
(DF reaches across and takes his tablet from Jodi and begins to draw Travis’ bedroom for Jodi)

06:14
DF: Here’s his bedroom, okay, and you got the long hallway to his bathroom, the sink. We have the closet here. Then we have the shower, then the bathtub right there, and then there’s the toilet right there. Okay. This is the sink. Then his bedroom is, well, actually there’s a closet door there. (DF pushes the table towards Jodi)

06:53
(Jodi takes the tablet, picks up a pencil/pen and draws on it)

JA: Yes, exactly, and so his closet is kind of like this.

06:57
(Jodi continues to draw/write on the diagram)

JA: So I ran this way, ‘cause they were…He was walking this way, and she was already right here. Umm… and then he stopped me here and he said, “Don’t move,” and uh… Travis was here, or somewhere right around, and he left the room for a minute, and I didn’t have my stupid phone because it wasn’t charged, and Travis’ phone is downstairs and I didn’t know… His roommates I didn’t think were home at the time, so like I was trying to think if there was anyway I could call 911 or call or…or get out of the house. There’s no way out except downstairs. His windows are…they’re two stories for one, and they’re just, they were hard to get to. He had stuff – here and stuff here and blinds and screens and window coverings and I mean… from the outside… and I just… Umm…she was over him and I just rushed her and I pushed her, and there was…

08:11
DF: There was what?

08:13
JA: Travis was bleeding everywhere.

08:18
DF: What was she doing to him, because he had been shot at this time, right?

08:24
JA: Yeah, but he was still alive.

08:25
DF: Mmm hmm.

08:27
JA: He was conscious even, like…

08:29
DF: Still talking…

08:31
JA: Oh, he wasn’t talking or saying much, but I could tell he was breathing. He seemed like he was breathing calmly, I think, he wasn’t like…He was just there. I can’t really remember. It was such a blur.

08:41
DF: Okay, and so you did what now? You pushed her?

08:49
JA: She’s a little bit bigger than me, not really in size but height. Umm…

09:01
DF: Then what happened?

09:05
JA: Oh, it didn’t really deter her.

09:08
DF: Did she have any weapons on her at all?

09:11
JA: Uh, yeah.

09:12
DF: What did she have?

09:14
JA: Umm…she…I thought she was the one with the gun, but maybe she had the gun, but he had a gun So either there were two guns or one gun. I don’t know.

09:24
DF: Well, she’s the one who shot him though, right? She was the one here and he was back here at the time when you saw him.

09:31
JA: I would think so, because, I mean, I do…I don’t know. I got hit here, somewhere. I just. I don’t know. “Cause when I was… when I woke up, he was screaming, and I saw her at this point, like right here, and walking. She must have been walking back this way, and I saw him sort of following, and that’s when he was like, “Finish.”

10:00
DF: Okay.

10:02
JA: And then I started running this way, and he stopped me, and he left the room for a couple of minutes.

10:06
DF: Why did he leave?

10:07
JA: Maybe… I don’t know. I don’t know.

10:10
DF: Okay, so what happened after you pushed her?

10:13
JA: Um…I got Travis, and he wasn’t like standing up really. He wasn’t really doing much, and he was… I was trying to get him… and she came back. I got him kind of far, like right here. She came back and uh…He was just… He was starting to just get weaker and weaker, and this guy came back in, and she said that umm…She said… they needed to um….do me, too, because umm.. because I was there, and he was like, “No, that’s not why we’re here,” and…Um…

11:09
(DF’s phone buzzer goes off)

11:16
JA: He had my purse, which I had on the dresser here prior. Umm…

11:26
DF: And what did they do after this, after you guys reached this. Just try to stick with the incident from what was going on?

11:40
JA: She came after me, and he stopped her.

11:45
DF: Okay.

11:47
JA: And she didn’t get me.

11:50
DF: How was she going to get you? Did she have a weapon?

11:52
JA: She had a knife.

11:54
DF: Okay.

11:58
DF: You said she had a gun before.

12:00
JA: I don’t know if she had a gun. I…I think…’cause I am guessing. Umm…I know that he had a gun. I don’t know if she had a gun or not.

12:13
DF: So she was basically the aggressor?

12:17
JA: Yeah, unless he took a shot, too. I don’t know.

12:20
DF: But it seemed like from what you were telling me she was the aggressive one and he was the more passive.

12:26
JA: Yeah, I mean, there was definitely aggression as far as, I mean, I don’t know what you define aggression as but like there was definitely a sternness, and I wasn’t like just free to walk out of there like, Hey, it’s cool, it’s cool. It wasn’t anything like that.

12:47
DF: Then what happened?

12:52
JA: Um… they had an argument back and forth, and she wanted to kill me, and he didn’t. Umm…

13:01
DF: Why didn’t they kill you? Just because he said…

13:04
JA: He said that’s not what we’re here for.

13:09
DF: Did they say why they were there?

13:10
JA: No, but it was obvious they were there for him. They didn’t say why.

13:21
DF: So it seemed like they knew him, obviously.

13:24
JA: Yeah, but he didn’t seem to know them. I mean he was a little out of it, plus they had masks on anyway, but he didn’t express any kind of recognition.

13:35
DF: Well, he couldn’t talk.

13:38
JA: He was able to say, “Go get help,” and at one point he said, “Go to my neighbor’s house.” “Go to my neighbor’s house.” There was just like…there was just no way out of …

13:53
DF: Did you see them hurt him any more?

13:57
JA: Umm…

13:59
DF: Other than a gunshot?

14:04
JA: Um…she had a knife and I don’t know. He was bleeding everywhere. It was like… when she rushed me afterward, or she came back, I rushed her but she kind of came back at me. Umm…

14:26
DF: Why didn’t …

14:27
JA: Travis & I were right about here, maybe. I don’t know. Half way? I don’t know. Umm…and there was a little bit of a struggle with her and I. Umm…I was so scared. I’m not a person who fights. Umm…I’m not a person who knows really about self defense. I took some classes once, but it was like eight years ago and I’ve never been consistent with it.

15:00
DF: Okay.

15:01
JA: Umm…so I wasn’t sure. I just knew I had to hold onto her hands because she had a knife.

15:08
DF: What hand did she have it in?

15:10
JA: She…she had it in this hand, but well, her right, so…

15:12
DF: Her right?

15:21
DF: What happened?

15:28
DF: So you didn’t see her hurt him anymore. He was just bleeding. Where did he end up?

15:35
JA: He um… When I tried getting him here, he said, “Go get help.” And when I tried…came back this way, pushed her, and he said, “Go to my neighbors” “Go to my neighbors,” and I wasn’t like, “No” but I wasn’t going to leave if I couldn’t leave without him. I was trying. Umm I felt stupid already for trying to run this way. I was going to go to a phone, and he was like, “Come on” “Come on”. You know he was naked but I didn’t care. Just Come on. And he was like, I can’t. I said, Come on, and he said, I can’t feel my legs.

16:18
JA: And they wouldn’t let me be by him.

16:22
DF: Were you clothed at that time or were you also nude?

16:26
JA: Yeah, I was clothed.

16:
DF: Okay.

16:28
DF: Are those the pants I showed you the other day on the camera?

16:31
JA: On…I don’t think I have pants like that. I don’t know. Umm…I’ve got a lot of clothes. I’m trying to remember the clothes that I took to that trip. Um… oh, I do have another pair of striped pants, and they’re gray though with a black stripe.

16:46
DF: Okay.

16:48
JA: I don’t think they were those. I don’t know.

16:50
DF: Okay. So what happened after that?

16:53
JA: Umm…

16:57
DF: They had a conversation about killing you, too, and you…and then they decided not to.

17:04
JA: She really, really, really wanted to.

17:06
DF: What happened then?

17:09
JA: From there they were … I was here, like his armoire whatever it’s called, but his TV was here. and I was right about here and I had to stay here and I was calling his name and they were like, “Shut the hell up,” Umm and I was just…I don’t know if I was crying. It was all just like… It was so weird. Umm… he was going through umm…my purse, and he pulled out my wallet and he just took some cash. Umm I had though my cash stashed in the jeans I had worn, like a good chunk of it, like 80 bucks, stashed in four twenties in the back of my jean pockets which were in my backpack ummm but I had some cash in here, not all of it though. So he took that, though and um…

18:18
DF: What happened?

18:21
JA: He was...

18:25
DF: What was she doing?

18:32
JA: She was like right here that time.

18:35
DF: Doing what? He’s over here taking stuff from your wallet, uh…from your purse. You’re here. She’s down the hall.

18:43
JA: Yeah, she wasn’t far. It’s not a far distance. There was part of me I think that was just. I was sitting, and I was just like…I didn’t know what to say. Do you beg for your life? Do you say, Who are you guys? I’m powerless, because I don’t have any way to stop them. They were just more powerful, so I figured…

19:04
DF: Okay. Well, Continue on. So once they took stuff from there, what did they do?

19:08
JA: Umm… she was…I don't know what she was doing, but she was arguing with him and talking with him and saying…

19:16
DF: What were they saying?

19:17
JA: She’s like, it wasn’t like super yelling. It was kind of like hushed, but intense like “You need to da da da da da,” and “Shut up! That’s not why we’re here.” Things like that. And…and uh…he grabbed my wallet, and he was looking through it. He just took the cash and put it in his pocket. He umm…got my registration out of my wallet and he said,

19:59
DF: What did he say?

20:09
JA: He said you must be that bytch from California.

20:12
DF: Mmm hmm.

20:15
JA: And he was going like this with my registration, and he said, he said…”You ever, ever, ever say anything about this,” he said they’ll do to my family the same way and me, and I didn’t care so much about me at that point. He said, “We need to leave and don’t you call anybody. Don’t say anything. Don’t you act like anything happened!” He’s like I’ll give you one chance, and she said, “She’s going to rat us out, she’s going to say something” and he’s like, “Shut up! You get one chance.”

21:29
DF: Was that when you left?

21:30
JA: He said, “Leave now,” and part of me didn’t want to leave. Travis wasn’t… was still alive. He was still... I could…He wasn’t moving a lot, but he was still alive. I could see that he was still…

21:50
DF: did you leave at that point?

21:52
JA: Umm…I left the room

21:54
DF: Where did you go?

21:55
JA: I went downstairs, but I didn’t have all my clothes.

22:06
DF: What did you leave there?

22:07
JA: Well, Travis said I had some stuff there. I didn’t see what it was. He said it was in his closet. He said there were clothes of mine, but all I had was my purse and my backpack. I left those and I went outside.

22:33
DF: Mmm hmm.

22:40
DF: And then what did you do?

22:46
JA: I wanted to get help. I … I just wanted to get help. He told me that if I didn’t say anything that I would be… that I wouldn’t even live to regret it but that I would regret it.

23:07
DF: No idea why they did this to him? You have to know something about it.

23:17
JA: I’m trying to think what else was said.

23:20
DF: Anything that clicked in your mind, because why would anybody do this to him? He has done nothing but help people. Everybody likes him. He doesn’t owe people money, no people like that anyway.

23:38
JA: No.

23:40
DF: He doesn’t get involved in things he’s not supposed to get involved in. He doesn’t do drugs. It doesn’t seem like a robbery, burglary…

23:49
JA: No, it doesn’t. I was wondering if they took my stuff to make it look that way, and they told me to leave, and, you know, umm…Travis usually keeps his cash in his wallet.

24:02
DF: So you didn’t see what happened to him then?

24:06
JA: I just saw that…

24:09
DF: Did you get hurt at all? You said you were fighting with her.

24:12
JA: Yeah.

24:13
DF: What happened to you?

24:15
JA: Umm…she cut me.

24:16
DF: Where at?

24:17
JA: My hand.

24:18
DF: Let me see. Where at? Can you show me?

24:20
JA: (Gestures with her left hand) You actually can’t see it. If you look at… my finger isn’t the same, though. I was…

24:27
DF: Let me see. Where did it get cut?

24:30
(Jodi extends her left arm and places it on the table. DF gets up and looks closely at her fingers)

24:33
JA: It was…Conveniently it was right on the crease.

24:35
DF: Right there on the crease?

24:36
JA: Can you see it? Well, it’s kind of a purple color, I guess.

24:40
DF: This one here? Yeah right on the crease.

24:43
JA: Well, there’s a vein on this one. I don’t know.

24:47
DF: Is this the one here?

24:48
JA: Yeah.

24:49
DF: So it was sliced there. Just a small one or was it pretty deep?

24:55
JA: Umm…I don’t know how deep it was but my finger hurt for a long … for awhile.

24:59
DF: Okay, so like right in that crease that you… across both of them?

25:05
JA: Uhh…not my middle finger, I mean it cut this one a little but not as much. This is where it really went in. I don’t know how it happened that all of these other fingers were missed but this one, I don’t know. This one, I still can’t close this finger all the way. This is as closed as it goes whereas this one goes like that, so my CTR ring used to fit both fingers, and I can’t get it on this finger anymore.

25:25
DF: So it cut pretty deep then?

25:27
JA: I guess. If you feel it, squeeze it. It just feels like bone, like there’s nothing abnormal there but again, like my CTR ring slides right on this finger and it used to slide right off this finger. I just can’t fit a ring on here.

25:39
DF: Okay.

25:40
JA: It’s a bigger size now.

25:44
DF: What about this here? What’s that from?

25:46
JA: That’s my cat.

25:47
DF: Okay.

25:48
JA: I’m pretty sure. She scratches me a lot.

25:50
DF: So when you were told to leave, you left? Did you get in your car and drive away?

25:57
JA: I always have my keys. My keys have a little clip on them and I do that because I’m very, very spacey.

26:03
DF: Did you see any other cars in the driveway or on the street?

26:06
JA: Umm…

26:07
DF: Any vehicle descriptions you can give us?

26:10
JA: Uhh… no. No, not that I…Not that I…I don’t think his roommates were home.

26:16
DF: And you just left? You didn’t run to the neighbors. You didn’t try calling. You knew they were in his house. You had time to run to the neighbor. Why didn’t you do that?

26:29
JA: I was really scared.

26:30
DF: Okay.

26:33
JA: I was really freaked out of my mind.

26:36
DF: Okay.

26:40
DF: I don’t believe you. I came in here hoping that you would tell me the truth, and this is not the truth, Jodi.

26:49
JA: This is all I know.

26:50
DF: This does not make any sense -- does not make any sense!

26:58
JA: It’s all I know.

27:04
DF: Nothing changes for me.

27:09
JA: I didn’t think it would.

27:16
JA: I’m responsible because I feel that I could have done more. I feel that I should have gotten help. I feel like I should have been stronger.

27:30
DF: You feel responsible because you did this.

27:34
JA: I did not hurt Travis.

27:35
DF: Jodi. You did. You did, and there’s nothing you can say that will change my mind. This is an elaborate story that does not make any sense. Two people come in, first two white males, then later you change it to,

27:53
JA: No, I don’t think I ever said white males.

27:55
DF: Yes, you did.

27:56
JA: When?

27:57
DF: At the beginning of the story. Then you change it, ahh, no, one is a female.

28:03
JA: I knew it was female the whole time. I said I wasn’t sure at first, but you could tell by their build.

28:06
DF: Okay.

28:10
DF: It doesn’t make any sense to me, and there’s no reason anybody would go after him. There’s nothing in his past, nothing at that time he was going through that would cause somebody to do that to him, and the fact that they left you alive and let you go? That never happens. Why would anybody do that? Why would somebody risk the chance of getting caught letting you run out the front door when they’re upstairs in his house killing somebody, knowing that you could just run across the street and tell somebody? It doesn’t make any sense. Does it make any sense to you? It doesn’t, does it?

28:56
JA: No. They argued about it. It doesn’t make sense. I though for sure I was dead.

29:03
(DF’s phone buzzes)

29:08
DF: I was hoping that you were going to be completely truthful to me today. Obviously, that’s not the case. I know you were there. I know you had some situation going on with him that got out of control, and that cut that you’re showing me there, that’s pretty obvious how that happened. I’ve seen that before. That happens when the knife slips through someone’s hand because of blood. It’s slippery, and it cuts. That’s what happens. I’ve done this for a long time, and this is the most far fetched story I’ve ever heard, and it’s not going to help you. Is that how you want to leave this?

30:02
JA: I just don’t want my family to get hurt.

30:04
DF: Your family will not get hurt. It will not get hurt.

30:11
DF: The way you’re hurting your family is by not coming forward and telling the truth. There is a reason why you did this, and you just refuse to tell me why. Maybe because you are cold and calculated, and you went there intentionally to do this, and you’re ashamed of it, so ashamed that you will come up with a story to try to hide it. (Sigh)

30:45
JA: I was there that day but I didn’t take Travis’ life.

30:48
DF: You haven’t convinced me, and I mean I hope you can convince a jury, but I doubt it very seriously, because there’s no evidence of anybody else. Nobody!


END OF VIDEO #15
 

Attachments

  • Transcription - Video 15 - Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation.doc
    88 KB · Views: 11
Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation

Video 16

Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 16 - YouTube

JA = Jodi Arias
DF = Detective Flores
FO = Female Officer

Transcribed by TxJan1971 at yahoo dot com


00:27
DF: And we’re still not done looking at all the evidence. We still have other things to uhh…check in the lab and other…

00:38
JA: What kind of things?

00:39
DF: blood swabs and other things like that, and every time they call me and tell me, Hey, we’ve checked this; it points at Jodi. Hey, we’ve checked that; that points at Jodi. Nothing points at anybody else. Do you want to be truthful with me? If not, we can just end it now, and we’ll just leave it the way it is.

01:00
JA: I know that it’s obvious I was there. Umm…

01:03
DF: No, it’s obvious that you committed a crime, that you hurt Travis.

01:07
JA: There’s no reason for me to hurt him.

01:08
DF: No! It’s not like that. It’s… it’s… I know that you did this, and you refuse to tell me why.

01:16
JA: There’s no reason.

01:17
DF: You refuse to tell me why. There’s no reason somebody else would come in and do this to him. There’s no motive whatsoever. We haven’t found any.

01:26
JA: What is my motive?

01:28
DF: Jealousy? Anger? Fear? Fear of being alone? Angry at him for not keeping you in his life? I don’t know. That’s why I’m trying to figure it out. There are so many motives with you. Too many!

(Silence)

02:07
DF: We know you had a .25 auto.

02:10
(DF’s phone goes off)

02:011
DF: You guys reported it stolen. We recovered the ammunition, and it matches. We recovered the shell casing, and it matches the ammunition. Your prints, your blood, your hair, a motive, you were there...

02:40
JA: I wasn’t jealous of anything. I was a little envious because he was going to Cancun but that wasn’t the reason. Like, I could go to Cancun. It’s not cheap, I mean, it’s not expensive to go to Mexico.

02:52
DF: I know. You were probably standing above him when he was in the shower, and you shot him in the head.

02:58
JA: I was kneeling down beside him looking at the pictures.

03:01
DF: Jodi! And then you had a knife, and you stabbed him -- several times. Yes, you did! Jodi! (DT sighs). Tell me the truth. Please! Or if you want, we can stop here. It doesn’t matter. You have given me so much already, why stop? Do you want to? Do you want to continue? Do you want to tell me the truth?

(Silence)

04:01
DF: What did you do with the gun?

04:05
JA: I never had it in my possession.

04:07
DF: Jodi, you did.

04:09
JA: Never. I don’t have it.

04:13
DF: Yeah, you don’t have it. You know, people say that when they know of the gun, they’ve seen the gun, they’ve touched the gun, you don’t have it.

04:25
JA: I saw the gun.

04:26
DF: Yeah, but you had it before. You’ve touched it. You’ve used it. I know you have. (DT sighs)

04:46
JA: I don’t think I’ve ever even fired a gun. I’ve done bows and arrows but not guns, and water guns, but not a real gun. And the gun that I got on Friday was never used.

05:01
DF: So you’re gonna’ continue to tell me that you didn’t do this to him?

05:04
JA: I did not kill Travis.

05:07
DF: I believe you did. I truly believe you did, and there’s nothing showing that anybody else did this. Nothing! I have been in so many scenes and so many investigations, and there’s always, always some type of evidence left behind, no matter how careful somebody is. And in this case, there was evidence, not pointing at anybody else. Just you! And that’s what I have to go by, and that’s what my report’s gonna’ to say.

05:48
JA: Okay. I’m just… If I had planned to hurt him in any way, I, you know, I am not the brightest person, but I… I don’t think I could stab him. I think I would have to shoot him continuously until he was dead, if that were my intention. Again, and I would bring up the gloves again, but I would have to wear gloves. I mean I am not too worried about prints, because they are all over anyway, but I would never stab him. If, if, if I had it anywhere in me to kill him, the least I could have done was to make it as humane as possible, or quick, or something, you know, if any killing is humane, so to speak. I don’t mean it that way…I would just...like, he was still alive...

06:48
DF: Yes. Yes, he was. He was alive for awhile, and I knew that he had been shot first, and he was still alive and possibly tried to get away, maybe even tried to fight back.

06:59
JA: I think he was in shock. I just remember waking up and he was…

07:01
DF: But you didn’t see him fight back or anything did you? He just kind of collapsed there and....

07:07
JA: No, he was here (JA points at DF’s drawing of Travis’ bathroom, etc.) right outside of the shower...

07:10
DF: And then he…You pulled him this way and you tried to get away with him, but then he couldn’t go any further.

07:16
JA: He said he couldn’t move. He said he couldn’t feel his legs.

07:19
DF: And that was the last place you saw him. You said that he stopped and he kind of collapsed right there. She was standing there and he was over here, and it just doesn’t make any sense.

07:32
JA: He was still like able to move his…like, he was all…I guess he was all conscious up here sort of still. He wasn’t like on his legs or on his knees or on his feet. He wasn’t walking...

07:45
DF: He was crawling.

07:50
JA: Yeah, I’m trying to think how he got over there. He was sort of using his legs, but he wasn’t standing up.

07:58
DF: Yeah. If you’re going to continue on that road, I don’t think I want to go any further.

08:06
JA: I don’t remember what time I left, but...

08:12
DF: I gave you an opportunity. This was the only opportunity. Okay, and you just, you just yeah you gave me the information that you were there, but I knew you were there, and then you throw some story in that is not plausible. It just doesn’t make any sense with the evidence that was there at the house, it doesn’t make any sense at all. That evidence tells a story. And nowhere in that evidence does that story that you told me match. It doesn’t match. Is that how you want to leave it? You want to stop here and that’s how you want to leave it?

08:57
JA: I know that I didn’t take Travis’ life, and I know that you don’t…

09:00
DF: I know that you did.

09:01
JA: Look, I know you don’t believe me.

09:03
DF: I don’t believe you.

09:08
JA: As long as I’m here, someone else is happy, that’s its not them.

09:15
DF: So you are just going to let these two people get away with it?

09:18
JA: There’s not even any way to identify them. One was male, one was female. They were taller than me, not by a whole lot.

09:31
DF: Okay. Are you ready to go back?

09:39
JA: Umm…yeah, I guess. I’d still like to say something to his family, but I don’t think I have anything that could bring them comfort.

09:45
DF: Okay.

09:47
JA: Maybe I could write them a letter.

09:50
DF: Well, you’ll always have the opportunity to do that, so …

09:53
JA: Would they receive it?

09:55
DF: I don’t know. I don’t know.

09:57
JA: I don’t mean would they accept it. I mean, if I had the…if it made it to them, would they get it? Do you know?

10:03
DF: Yeah. I don’t have their address; I’m not going to provide you their address.

10:06
JA: I know their address.

10:07
DF: They know where you’re going to be, and if they want to make contact with you, then they can do that.

10:11
JA: That’s fine. I know his grandmother’s address, and at least I could mail it, but I don’t know if that’s something...

10:18
DF: Well, let me see if I can get someone to take you back. You’re absolutely sure you want to leave it like this?

10:25
JA: I don’t know what else to say.

10:36
DF: That’s it then. Okay, the next time I see you will probably be in Phoenix. Is that cool?

10:46
JA: Do I have a choice?

10:50
DF: Well, you’re going there regardless, so it doesn’t matter, but I was hoping that we could resolve this here. It’s obvious by what you’re telling me that you don’t want to resolve this here.

11:01
JA: I just can’t.

11:04
DF: Well, at the beginning you told me that you couldn’t tell me because you couldn’t tell me who they were, because you didn’t want your family to get hurt.

11:15
JA: I can’t, I can’t let my family…

11:17
DF: Okay, and now you’re telling me you don’t know who they are, and therefore it doesn’t matter. So there’s nothing you can tell me.

11:23
JA: I can give you the best description…

11:25
DF: So many inconsistencies that I don’t even want to deal with right now.

11:27
JA: I just don’t want my family to get hurt.

11:29
DF: Okay. They won’t get hurt. You’re hurting them right now by not telling me the truth. That’s what you’re doing. Okay?

11:39
(DF gets up and leaves room)

(Jodi picks up recorder from the table and examines it. She removes the cassette tape, looks at it, and then puts it back inside).

13:18
(DF enters the room)

13:21
DF: Okay, I just talked to the other detectives and they’re going to take you back there in a second. Okay?

(DF reaches across and picks up the tape recorder and takes it with him as he leaves).

14:50
(FO enters the room)

14:52
FO: Jodi, umm…they ran across the street to get you something to eat. You’re probably hungry by now. So I figured, in the meantime, while we’re waiting, and you’re just kind of sitting here and hanging out, if you want to draft the rough draft to Travis’ grandmother and family, this would be a good chance for you to do that (FO hands JA paper and pen).

15:14
JA: Well, it will just be just a rough draft.

15:16
FO: That’s fine.

15:17
JA: Can I take it back with me?

15:18
FO: Umm…

15:19
JA: So I can use it to work on the final draft?

15:21
FO: Yeah. We can work something out. Yeah.

15:23
JA: Okay.

15:27
(FO leaves the room)

16:41
(FO enters room and puts a brown bag lunch for Jodi on the table. FO leaves the room)

(Jodi eats her lunch, tries to write a letter and even breaks down and cries throughout the remainder of the video)


END OF VIDEO #16
 

Attachments

  • Transcription - Video 16 - Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation.doc
    50.5 KB · Views: 14
Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation

Video 17

Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 17 - YouTube


JA = Jodi Arias
DF = Detective Flores
FO = Female Officer

Transcribed by TxJan1971 at yahoo dot com


00:17
Jodi has a tablet of paper on the table. Her lunch bag is also on the table.

00:23
Jodi rips out a few pages of paper, folds this paper in half, then in half again, and then in half again. She stuffs it in her shirt pocket.

Jodi almost immediately removes the folded paper from her shirt pocket and puts it inside her pants (waistband).

Jodi leans across table in front of tablet of paper.

01:35
Jodi appears to be holding a pen/pencil in her right hand and may be writing on the far right side of the paper.

She is bent over the paper/tablet. I cannot determine if she is writing anything. She appears motionless.
She occasionally eats pieces of her lunch

12:22
Jodi puts her pen/pencil down and seems to just look at the paper/tablet.

She rubs her face, eyes, has her hands on either side of her head, elbows on the table. Jodi seems to be staring off to the left. Jodi rubs her eyes again.

14:26
Jodi reaches for more of her lunch, pulls apart some pieces and eats it. Rolls everything up and puts it in the brown bag (cleaning up her trash).

Looks at the paper, seems to be studying it. Not sure if she has written anything. She may be reading what she has written, or she may be just staring at the paper/tablet.

END OF VIDEO #17
 

Attachments

  • Transcription - Video 17 - Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation.doc
    30.5 KB · Views: 11
Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation

Video 18

Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 18 Of 18 - YouTube

JA = Jodi Arias
DF = Detective Flores
FO = Female Officer
UD = Unknown Detective

Transcribed by TxJan1971 at yahoo dot com

04:09
FO enters the room.

04:13
FO: You all finished up?

04:14
JA: For now, I guess.

04:15
FO: What’s that?

04:16
JA: For now, I guess. Can I take this or no?

04:18
FO: Ah, well, let me see – make sure you’re not sneaking jail secrets out or something.

04:23
JA: Okay.

04:23
FO reads what Jodi wrote on her paper.

04:37
JA: (Unintelligible) paper in there so I can keep writing stuff.

04:42
FO: Did you take some paper with you? Where did you put it?

04:48
JA: Right here in my pants.

04:49
FO: Did you write anything on it?

04:50
JA: No, do you want to see it?

04:55
FO: Hey, Chris, could you do me a favor and make a copy of that?

FO appears to hand Jodi’s letter to Travis’ family to the unidentified detective.

05:11
FO returns the folded paper to JA.

05:11
JA: Thanks.

05:13
FO: Just go ahead and stick it in your pocket, if it will stay there.

05:18
FO: Can you stand up for me?

05:21
FO: Put your hands out in front of you.

05:26
FO: We don’t use the belly chains very often.

05:52
Unknown detective (UD) enters the room and hands Jodi the paper she was writing a letter to Travis’ grandmother/family on. Jodi folds it and places it in her pocket.

05:52
UD: Jodi, green light. Go ahead and keep this.

05:54
JA: Thank you.

(FO puts belly chains on Jodi. Jodi folds her letter and puts it in her pocket)

06:14
FO: Okay, you’re ready to go.

06:20
FO and JA leave the interrogation room.

END OF VIDEO #18
 

Attachments

  • Transcription - Video 18 - Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation.doc
    33 KB · Views: 19
PART 1 of 5

TRANSCRIPT

Recorded Phone Interviews with Detective Flores
June 10, 21 (vm) & 25, 2008


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmXxck9IiFQ

~~~~~~~~~~
June 10th, 2008 – Phone Interview – States Exhibit 273 – Day 2 – Trial Testimony – Detective Flores

DF: All right, um…well, um…can I call you again if I need more information or if I have any more questions?
JA: Please do.

DF: Do you have any questions I could answer for you?
JA: Um…yeah. Do you know when all this happened? I mean I got a call last night, but is there any word on…

0:24
DF: Um…sometime between Thursday and uh…last night. We’re not sure yet. We haven’t (unintelligible) had that reported yet (?)
JA: Um…and you said that maybe look because he’s a big guy it was…Maybe you can’t talk about this but was um…Was there…Was there like any kind of weapons used…or was there…was there a gun, was there…?

0:48
DF: I can’t say what type of weapon was used. But yeah…I…I…I’m guessing there was a weapon used by the type of injuries that were left behind. Um…do you know of him having any weapons at all…in the house?
JA: Um…his two fists…

DF: What’s that?
JA: Really…uh…(Unintelligible) – (Did she say, “but no gun”?)

DF: So no handguns or rifles or …
JA: No, he wasn’t one to keep any of that (unintelligible). He’s just…

DF: anything like that
JA: No, he was more into like wrestling and UFC and he had a…you know he said he had just bought a punching bag and…

DF: Yeah…
JA: …he’s like, “I love beating the crap out of the punching bag.”
DF: Yeah.
JA: Um…

1:35
June 10, 2008 – 14:35 hours, Interview with Jodi Arias, 1610804

JA: Hello.
DF: Hello, could I speak to Jodi please?
JA: This is Jodi.

DF: Hey, Jodi, this is Det. Steve Flores with Mesa Arizona Police Department.
JA: Oh, hey! How are you?

1:55
DF: Good. I just got a message from one of my patrol officers that uh… you needed to talk to me about something?
JA: Well, I just wanted to offer any assistance that I might have. I was a really good friend of Travis’ and I just...you know ….I just…I know that…I don’t know a lot of anything but…

2:11
DF: What have you heard so far?
JA: I’ve heard that he was…that he passed away and that um…it was...I don’t know. I’ve heard all kinds of rumors. I heard there was a lot of blood. I heard that um…his roommate found him or his friend found him or people were…I’m sorry. I’m upset, but um…I heard that uh…nobody’s been able to get a hold of him for almost a week which…and that was about the last time I spoke to him, too. Um…which is actually why I thought I…My friend said I should call you anyway and let you know the last time I talked to him. So…

DF: Yeah. Absolutely! I mean any help we can get from anybody who had any kind of contact with him on the phone…on the

2:51
JA: I used to talk to him quite regularly. Um…I used to live there. I live in northern California now. Um…but after I moved…I moved a few months ago, and after I moved we kept in touch very regularly and um…kind of fell back a little bit, but we got down to about a couple times a week but I hadn’t heard from him. I… I talked to him on Tuesday night. Um… I looked at my phone records on …on the internet to check. Yeah, I definitely talked to him Tuesday night.

3:22
DF: Okay. So was that your cell phone or?
JA: Yeah. That was my cell. That’s the only phone I have, so…

3:29
DF: Okay. Is this…is this the number that I called?
JA: Yeah.

3:33
DF: Okay, so and that was Tuesday night. Do you remember about what time?
JA: Uh…I think it was … I want to say like a quarter after 9, but I think it was sometime between 8 and 10, but I know it wasn’t as late as 10:00 – probably between 8:30 and 9:30 more so.

3:55
DF: Okay, and what did you guys talk about?
JA: Um…it was brief. I was um…I was driving out to Utah and, you know, he was like, “Are you going to come up and see me?” and I was like, “No!” and you know… He…he was supposed to make a trip up here…um…at the end of the month because he…We…um…we got this thing that we’re doing. It’s called uh…There’s a book called 1,000 Places to See Before You Die, and its been featured on the Travel Channel and all that, and we sort of got into that last year where we were starting to see all these different places on the list, and we thought 1,000 places is a lot of places but, why not—that would be a fun goal. So, we each kind of have that goal and…and one of the places is the Oregon Coast, um…and the Shakespearean Festival, and so he was going to come up here for that um…and then we were going to go see that and Crater Lake and just different landmarks then…

4:44
DF: Was…was that trip already scheduled or just something you guys talked about?
JA: Um…it was… (sigh). It was…It wasn’t officially like dated and stuff. I had been trying to reach him so I could solidify my own schedule because I was planning on making a trip down there. Um…you know, but…uh…It was supposed to happen in May and then things just…It was supposed to happen um…last week, and that didn’t work out so he was going to leave for Cancun today and um…and then he said as soon as he gets back from Cancun he was going to continue the trip because he was going to drive up the coast and when he reaches me we’ll go do some things and then he’ll continue on to Washington and see some friends up there. Um…and then I guess that was supposed to happen before the beginning of July because July he was supposed to go to Washington D.C.

5:32
DF: Okay. Did he have…did he have any uh issues with anybody here in town—any enemies, anybody that wanted to do him harm?
JA: Um…You know he got his tires slashed. It was last year. Um…he was…He said he was worried about that. Um…and I was worried about that. He never locked his doors, and I told… I would tell him, “Lock your doors” and he was like, “You’re not my mom,” you know. And um...I come from…uh…he comes from a bad city. He comes from Ruby near California which is gangs and violence but, and I come from a similar type of neighborhood in California so I always… I can’t say we always locked our doors, and that’s just my habit but he doesn’t have that habit and he lives in a great neighborhood, and it’s never been an issue, and the thing is that nothing has ever been stolen. I think he’s never been…He’s never been, you know, broken into, and he had his tires slashed um…I don’t remember when it was. It was last year sometime around Christmas, I think.

6:30
DF: Okay.
JA: Um…and…you know, other than that…

6:35
DF: Now how would you describe your relationship with him?
JA: We dated for … We dated for like five months, and we broke up and we continued actually to see each other…for quite a bit. Um…you know, right up until I moved.

6:53
DF: When did you guys, uh…break up?
JA: We officially broke up June 29th of last year. I believe that we…Even though we broke up and we were no longer boyfriend and girlfriend, we decided to remain friends, but, you know, like I kind of feel embarrassed talking about this, but it was more like…it was more like fun but it wasn’t boyfriend/girlfriend. It was more like kind of “buddies,” you know what I mean?

7:17
DF: Yeah. Okay. So you guys were not like romantically uh…together at any time or …?
JA: We…We were intimate. Um…but I wouldn’t say romantic as far as relationship goes, but we were in no way headed toward marriage or talking anything about that. We (unintelligible) probably sometime.

7:41
DF: When you say intimate does that include like a sexual relationship with him?
JA: Yeah, it does.

7:45
DF: Okay. I know it’s kind of embarrassing to talk about stuff like that especially because you don’t know me, so…
JA: I know and…Yeah, and if you could please keep it confidential for now because I know that…He’s Mormon and that is seriously looked down upon in the Church and…I mean… I just…I’m telling you this to help in any way I can.

8:05
DF: Okay. I appreciate it. Um…so you actually moved back to California a couple of months ago?
JA: Yeah, I did.

8:13
DF: Okay. What date was that? Do you remember?
8:18
JA: Uh… I don’t remember the exact date; I mean I have the dates I rented the U-Haul. It was early April. Early—like before April 10th. It was after the 1st but before the 10th so I’m guessing 7th, 8th, 9th maybe. I’d have to check the dates that I was…

8:34
DF: Did you…did you stop by the house when you were at the U-Haul to say good-bye to him?
JA: Oh, yeah. In fact, um… after I was…I was almost moved out completely out of my house for about a week afterward, and I just stayed at his house the whole time. I mean I practically lived there um…even when I was there. I spent the night there several times a week while I lived there. Um…I came over and…I cleaned his house a lot. He sort of…He paid me a little bit every month to keep his house nice and clean…sort of like a housekeeper so

DF: Um…did you ever happen to meet any of his roommates at the time…or during the time…
JA: Um…. Yeah and (unintelligible) really well at this time. Um…various roommates moved out, one guy moved Utah and one guy moved to Phoenix. Um…Zach is – I don’t know if Zach is still there, if he is...

DF: Yeah, he is.
JA: I knew Zach because I met him, and you know, we sort of connected because he’s a photographer like I am, you know. He took the room that …that Aaron lived in previously, so…yeah. Back in

9:36
DF: What do you…what do you think about Zach? What do you think his relationship is with uh…with your ex-boyfriend?
JA: Um…he seemed like a nice guy when I first met him. He seemed um…just like a normal guy. He’s a return missionary um from …(garbled) Um…he served his mission I think in Arizona (garbled) and he knew Travis from church, so, you know…Yeah, him and his girlfriend were there. I think…I think there was some alcohol there at one time and Travis um… was suspicious about it, but he said he used it for cooking, you know, that’s fine, because Mormon’s don’t drink alcohol, but Um…

DF: Well, some do… (laughs)
JA: They’re not supposed to, and Travis, that’s another thing when it came to that, we call it the Word of Wisdom, no tobacco, alcohol, drugs or coffee or tea, and he was just super, super, super strict on that…you know. He wouldn’t even take Excedrin for a headache because it had caffeine. He was so strict on that. I’m a little less strict on that. I’ll pop Excedrin any day but…

10:43
DF: There were a lot of Diet Cokes in the fridge.
JA: Yeah, they’re not Travis’. (both laughing) I can guarantee that! He wouldn’t even touch Coke, so it’s one of his other roommates.

10:52
DF: Okay, and that was around April that you last saw him, right?
JA: Early April…

DF: You haven’t been back in town since then?
JA: No, I haven’t, no. Um…I talked to…

DF: Somebody had mentioned your name and you had been back in town for like a week or a couple of days…
JA: Oh, I’ve…I’ve been…I’ve been thinking about going there and so yeah, I’ve been definitely planning on heading down there. Um…

11:15
DF: But you haven’t physically been here since you left?
JA: Since I moved, no, I haven’t. So…I was going to go this week, actually, while he was in Cancun and stay at his house, but it’s not in the budget. So…

11:30
DF: Well, was that something that you guys had scheduled that you were going to come down and stay at his house when he’s not home?
JA: Yeah…um…no, actually. That’s what I e-mailed him about last week because it was kind of last minute because I was going to go…I’m looking at a calendar here. I was gonna’ go not this week but the next, and then he was gonna’ come up here that following week which was the 4th of July, and um…it all sounds kind of weird. We’re all travelers. Um…and I figured, you know, it would be a good idea if I would have a place to stay. His house is open all the time to friends. I mean anybody in his business or anybody that comes to visit he gives up his bed. He’ll sleep on the couch. He lets them have the whole room. Um… so it just didn’t seem like…He said that the door is always open so I would have felt totally okay just showing up and staying at his house and eating his frozen dinners, etc. etc., and he would have been fine with that, too, and I just, you know. He said just always give me a heads up so I asked him, you know, let me know if that’s cool. If not, I’ll make other arrangements, and I never heard back.

12:28
DF: And when was that e-mail sent out?
JA: Uh…just a few days ago. I’m beside the computer so I can check right now for ya’…

DF: Okay. Yeah, if you could do that, please…?
JA: Yeah. Hang on a second. Just logged into my account.

12:46
DF: What’s his e-mail address?
JA: Yeah. To his e-mail.

DF: Yeah. What is his e-mail address, do you know, offhand?
JA: E-mail is um… travis.alexander@gmail.com. (Pause) Um…let’s see. I sent one on June 7th. “Haven’t heard back from you…” He got a little bit upset when I said I wasn’t driving out to see him, but he…He gets upset really easily. Um…I don’t know. He likes to guilt me a little bit and we kind of guilt each other sometimes.

DF: So you guys still have a fairly decent relationship as friends?
JA: We…we did. Uh…we had …

13:33
DF: Well everyone I talked to said that you guys…that your relationship was kind of rocky and uh…it got a little…a little crazy at times or…
JA: It did. Um…What happened was, when I…I broke up with Travis around…last year, because it was all really dumb. It was a bunch of drama. I had a suspicion that he was cheating on me, and so I…I looked in his phone and found all these text messages and like it just all blew up, and it was like…I just realized we couldn’t trust each other so, I mean, we broke up at that point but we were still…We were still attracted to each other and we still loved each other, so it wasn’t the best thing, but we still hung out all the time together. And, uh…it didn’t really help either of us to move on because I haven’t really dated anyone since, and he told me that he hadn’t dated anyone since but then he told me afterward that he had so… It’s all been kind of weird because we kept our dating lives sort of from each other, like a don’t ask don’t tell policy, sort of. And uh…it was…I think it was…It worked out…It was more convenient for us. I figured, you know, if he doesn’t have a girlfriend then I’m okay coming over, and as long as he doesn’t think that I was with anybody then he was fine, too. So it was just the less we knew about each other dating wise or romantic wise the better that we were…the better off we were. So… um… it was sent June 7th. Yeah. (unintelligible)

15:06
DF: What town are you in again?
JA: I’m sorry?

DF: What town are you in again?
JA: I’m in Yreka, California. Y-R-E-K-A

15:19
DF: Y-R-E-K-A
JA: Uh huh.

15:22
DF: Where is that at?
JA: It is um…15 minutes from Oregon and it’s on Interstate 5.

15:27
DF: Okay. So it’s on the Oregon border.
JA: Yeah.

15:32
DF: Okay. Is that close to the coast?
JA: No, unfortunately.

15:47
DF: Okay. Um… I have some other questions. I’m trying to remember what they were. I mean…if you kind of lived in the house for awhile you knew the surroundings, the kind of furniture he had, the bedding and stuff. Can you describe his bedroom bedding and stuff for me?
JA: Um…
 
PART 2 of 5

TRANSCRIPT

Recorded Phone Interviews with Detective Flores
June 10, 21 (vm) & 25, 2008


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmXxck9IiFQ

~~~~~~~~~~
16:06
DF: I know it’s an unusual question, but…
JA: No, that’s fine. Um…I spent a lot of time in there. Um…He’s got like, I don’t know if it’s like Egyptian cotton or whatever but it’s a really nice brown um…linen and it’s soft. It’s not like flannel but it’s soft, and uh…he always brags to everyone about his IntelliGel bed. It’s really comfy. Um so he has got a great mattress. It’s like…apparently it’s like this $5,000 mattress that he picked up for really, really cheap because it was a showroom thing or it was a return or … Somehow he got a really sweet deal on it so… It’s a King size. I don’t know if it’s a California or what but it’s a King size bed. It’s kind of like...I think it’s like a sleigh bed. It’s dark wood. Um…

16:49
DF: Okay. But the bedding you said is like mainly like a brown linen, I mean it’s cotton linen.
JA: Yeah. He has. It’s maybe different patterns on the sheets versus the comforter but the sheets are brown and the comforter is brown and the pillowcases are brown and…

17:04
DF: What…so the color of the comforter is brown as well? Does it have any type of pattern or like uh… tassels or edging …?
JA: I think it has stripes and they had like…and they’re not like colored stripes. They’re just like stripes in the brown pattern so…

17:24
DF: Oh like, you know, it’s dark brown but it’s got a little bit darker brown like threading…
JA: Yeah. You could see that there’s a pattern there. And the sheet is maybe more of like a checkered thing, I think—if I remember correctly. And his cover, too, his bedspread is like—it’s a down comforter that’s white and then it’s got like uh… I don’t know what you would call it but it has special name.

DF: It’s like a duvet cover?
JA: Yes. A duvet.

17:54
DF: What does a duvet look like?
JA: Um…it comes like…like its got buttons on the end and it covers the whole thing and it’s like an actual comforter on the sizes of the duvet which is what you pull off to wash or, you know, or you can…that kind of thing. So we, many times, it’s so hard to get in there with one person so we kind of just grabbed the corners and we pull it in together on one side and then you just sort of fluff it out and then button up the buttons.

18:26
DF: Yeah, that down kind of just shoved over in the one corner and it doesn’t want to spread out.
JA: Yeah, exactly.

18:32
DF: Um…so it didn’t have like any…any type of uh… edging or tassels or anything like that that you know of like a light brown
JA: Not that I remember.

DF: Is there anything in the house that resembled anything with some type of small, tan, rope-ish kind of material or edging or anything like that, a blanket maybe..?
JA: He may have pillows. He may have had pillows. Um…Yeah! He has pillows on his…on his bed, not on his bed but on the chair that’s next to his bed. Yeah. There’s those! Um…there’s also a round pillow that he uses. He makes his bed and there’s just one that he puts in the center. There may be some kind of tassel thing on that.

19:19
DF: All right. Do you know anybody back here still that still has contact with him?
JA: Uh… yeah, lots of people. All kinds of people!

19:32
DF: Is that how you found out about what…what had happened?
JA: A friend of mine, Dan Freeman, called me last night. I met Dan through Travis.

19:40
DF: Dan Freedman?
JA: Freeman. F-R-E-E-M-A-N.

19:46
DF: Yeah. Okay. We talked to him as well.
JA: I met him last year with his sister when we all took a trip out to the Grand Canyon…

DF: So he called you last night and told you what happened?
JA: Yeah. Yeah. He called. He didn’t have a lot of information.

20:09
DF: Any idea of what everybody’s talking about? What they’re saying? What their suspicions are?
JA: Um…They’re saying …well…everything that I’ve heard was that, and I got a lot of my information from Bishop Layton, um more details. Um…and he basically that day they took everybody and separated them, and I don’t know who everybody is. I’m assuming Zach, because he was there , his girlfriend, um….because I called Zach’s cell phone and she couldn’t tell me anything but she answered, and she said there are a lot of people here that I don’t know but um…Zach’s not here, so it didn’t make sense and I just… I was confused but she couldn’t tell me anything so I didn’t get a lot out of her but Bishop Layton said he was there for four hours and they interviewed everybody and then they all went to the police station and um that it… that they’re treating it as a suspicious, excuse me…as a suspicious death and I heard some of my friends, um Dave…Hall that there was a lot of blood, and I don’t know if that’s just a rumor that’s going around or true but, and I also heard that his services will be in California but that they haven’t released his body to his grandma yet, so um…that’s all I really heard so far.

21:29
DF: Well, I can tell you that we’re investigating it as a homicide.
JA: Okay.

DF: It’s not a suspicious death anymore. It’s pretty obvious and…it’s important for us to find out why somebody would want to do harm to him.
JA: Uh…Exactly.

21:47
DF: Um…what kind of stuff he was possibly involved in or um… or maybe it just could have been as simple as a burglary, an intruder, or something that had gone wrong.
JA: One thing, he’s so… when you said…like when they said suspicious death I thought, well, he’s trying to shed pounds for Cancun so he looks good in boxers or a bathing suit or whatever, or swim trunks, and um…You know, I know that he or thought he takes supplements and he works out really, really hard like out at this very intense routine and um…he has these heavy dumbbells that he uses and he’s so strong. I mean there were a couple times we tried to wrestle just for fun and he showed me some moves, and that’s just not like…I don’t see how anyone, unless maybe there were two people, I don’t see how anyone could overpower him unless they were…

22:39
DF: He’s a pretty good sized guy.
JA: Yeah, he was close to 200 pounds, I think.

22:45
DF: Yeah. Yeah. It would take I would say two people, uh maybe more to kind of overpower him. I’ve tried with officers…working and stuff…to take down a woman at 135 pounds who is out of control and it’s difficult to control, you know, somebody like that

23:05
(Jodi’s Aunt Sue yawns)
JA: Yeah. Um…

23:06
DF: No ideas come to mind, huh, why somebody would want to hurt him?
JA: He talked for

DF: Did he owe somebody money? Did he have any worries or concerns about anybody?
23:17
JA: He did owe people money but …they were all good friends. They weren’t… like it wasn’t like a bad situation. It was...in fact they were…there was one family that loaned him money that is very, very wealthy, from what I understand, and it’s not like it hurt them to lend him the money. Of course, they expected him to pay it back, and he had a very reasonable timeline, and they also had a really good collateral in case he didn’t pay it back. Um…they…they owned a piece of stock that he owned so if they didn’t pay him back it was like $6,000 or something. Um…yeah it was $6,000, but if they didn’t…if he didn’t pay them back on time then they would just keep his stock which would eventually be worth over $25,000. So I mean I don’t think they were worried about that at all. Uh...that’s the Hyatt (sp?) family. His friend Hyatt was there last night. Um…but I don’t…that was when he was struggling financially several months back and … and um… I don’t know. I haven’t talked to him about how that was going since.

24:12
JA: But I know that that…

24:16
DF: What’s the situation with the car that was, somebody mentioned a BMW
JA: Yeah. I’m buying his BMW.

DF: Okay because we found a check, it was written by you to him, I think it was last month.
JA: Mmm hmm.. Yeah. Yeah, I recently just mailed him a check. Um…he…I know as a matter of a few other things. He um…I’m making payments to him.

24:40
DF: Okay. Hang on. You still have that car right now?
JA: No. It’s actually not in my possession. I did the dumbest thing. Um…I went and hooked it up to the U-Haul. Everything was cool and set to go. I got the dolly (?) that where the back wheels are on the ground because it was cheaper, and the U-Haul guy said, “Okay, drive it up here. Okay, Stop, Brake,” and everything was cool, and I stopped the car and turned it off. Got out of the car with the door open so they could look at everything and they shut the door and said, “You’re good to go,” and I took off, and this is going to sound really dumb, and I realize now this is not how you tow a car, but I left it in first gear.

25:12
DF: Yeah.
JA: and I started heading down the highway and I blew the engine to smithereens. Um…It looked like it gave birth all over the highway. There was just black oil everywhere and um…So it’s sitting at Wes’ Auto something last time I checked um…16th and Mesa, and uh…they’ve been acting really nice about keeping it until Travis figures out what he can do. We called lawyers about it, and my lawyer said um…you know, have your insurance fix it, and his lawyer said your insurance might not fix it because it might be considered mechanical so that’s the last we talked about it. We’ve been um… He’s been real busy and hasn’t had a lot of time to attend to it, and I have a vehicle right now but not for much longer because I have to give it back to the bank, and so…um…you know.

25:56
DF: When did you mail that payment, the end of May?
JA: Uh…it was a few weeks ago. Yeah. It must have been.

DF: Okay. So you’re still making payments for that?
JA: Oh, yeah. In fact, that’s my first payment because I just…We just did this car deal like right before I moved, and we’ve been…Oh! We have a buyer’s agreement, too, I think, that I checked out and emailed to him um…but uh…We have … like he said just get on your feet, you know, and then start making payments, and the agreement was x amount per month whenever I get paid, so…I finally got a job and …

26:35
DF: What…was $200 the amount?
JA: Yeah. It was $100 a month from then on, and if I could pay more, pay more please, you know.

26:50
DF: Okay. Well, we did talk to certain people and um… (sighs) I don’t want to tell you this. I don’t want to make you feel bad, but…
JA: Uh huh…

27:00
DF: Uh…there’s…They didn’t have the best of things to say about you.
JA: Okay.

DF: They felt that you were…uh…either taking advantage of him or um…just, you know hanging around when you weren’t wanted. Um…they mentioned that you would sometimes, you know, end up going into his house. You were in his house when he didn’t want you there, and you were asked to leave but you would return. There was also some talk about you, you know, spying on his e-mail and Facebook accounts those kinds of things…
JA: Oh, he gave me his um…He gave me his Facebook password and his MySpace password, and I gave him my Facebook password and my Gmail account password, and the reason we did that is that because, it was kind of dumb. We did that months and months ago and we thought, um… what can we do to try to re-establish trust between us, and, you know, why don’t we start with that, and so that’s what we did and you know, it just didn’t work. He got really upset finally and he’s like, “You know, this isn’t working,” and I said, “All right, this is too much of a headache, let’s just change our passwords.” So we did. We changed our passwords after that.

28:15
DF: How long ago did you guys change them?
JA: Uh…I changed mine, gosh…not long ago, probably three weeks ago maybe? And, I don’t know about his because I haven’t once he made clear he wasn’t comfortable with that anymore I didn’t even try to get back into his account anymore, so…

28:36
DF: Yeah. I mean I’ve been married almost 20 years and I don’t have my wife’s e-mail password. (laughs) That’s really…
JA: I know…

28:42
DF: You know you just have to trust sometimes.
JA: That’s true. That’s true, and I told him. We’ve had hours upon hours of conversation and I said, “You know, I just don’t know if I could ever trust you again,” you know, and…he doesn’t know if he could ever trust me again because I always wanted to get back into his phone and find out does he really have something going on or what, ‘cause you know he did at one point um…you know, and so, he said, “Yeah, I understand that, but if we were married you would have all my passwords to everything because there wouldn’t be anything to worry about” and I thought, “Well, that’s nice,” you know? But we’re not married (laughs) so… And as far as getting into his e-mails, that never happened. Um…what he has on his computer is um…He would oftentimes just leave the computer on and he’ll leave his G-mail e-mail up, and there were times when I’d hop on the computer to look up other things, and if his G-mail window was open then I would just close it…if that would constitute getting into his e-mail.

29:33
DF: Um…you know I had to mention that to you because we are getting a search warrant for your e-mails, or you know G-mail and Facebook, and we can tell where those things were accessed from, and I just want to make it clear that um…you know, if you did access it from somewhere else or at a certain time, you know if you access it from California we’re going to be able to know.
JA: Yeah, I’ll tell you right now that I did.

DF: Okay.
JA: He gave me his password. The only account that I’ve accessed though was the MySpace and G-mail because those were the only passwords I had.

30:21
DF: How long ago? When was the last time you actually accessed those?
JA: Oh, weeks ago. We had um…We had a conversation where, it’s like we…he made it clear that he wasn’t comfortable with that anymore, and um…and I said, “That’s okay,” and he…and I changed my email account password because he got into that, too, and he saw another guy’s email there um…and gave me a hard time about it and so, it just was dumb. You know, we’re both trying to move on. We’re both… I don’t know. He was weird.

30:57
DF: It seems like there were a lot of jealousy issues?
JA: I think that might have been on both parts. For me it wasn’t so much jealousy as it was like…I just …I just wanted to know like…I just wanted him to be honest, and for him, I think there…One of the reasons I moved was because we were spending too much time together and we were not moving on and um…wasn’t able to. I mean, I guess I could have dated other people but our social circles were so small that any time he heard about something it would just (unintelligible)

31:30
DF: Did you move down here the first time because of him?
JA: Yeah. I moved there because of him and I moved away because of him. Primarily. I also moved away for financial reasons. There are three main reasons why I moved here. 1) my family, 2) financially, 3) because of Travis and the main reason I moved there was because of Travis.

DF: Because when we first arrived on the scene and started talking to people and some of his closest friends um…you know began mentioning your name as, “Hey, you need to call her because she probably knows what happened to him or she possibly had something to do with it.”
JA: Oh, gosh. No, I …

32:09
DF: That’s how bad it was getting, and you know, I needed to talk to you to find out why they would say something like that—uh…why they would start pointing the finger in your direction right away.
JA: Um…I don’t know. Maybe because I’m the ex-girlfriend and we had lots of fights?

32:28
DF: Was there a lot of issues…uh…you know, I mean obviously it wasn’t…you know it wasn’t a great relationship, uh…
JA: It was great for awhile until we …until…You know we started fighting because I did one thing and got into his phone because I had a suspicion that he wasn’t being faithful and I found a bunch of text messages that were no good and um…Rather than being an adult about it and confronting him I kept it in and I kind of let it fester, and I was miserable and he didn’t know why, and I wanted to tell him but I was worried it would just lead to an unnecessary fight and I realized this was no kind of a relationship and finally it all came out and he was really apologetic but we just both realized that neither of us could be in an adult relationship and that was at the end of last year so, at that point, it was over. We continued to see each other, you know, a long time after that.

33:29
DF: Well, I’m glad I did get a hold of you and you did call me because it kind of clears up a lot of the questions I had and a lot of the concerns. I don’t think it’s what these people thought, you know, was going on so…
JA: Yeah. I should probably. I should probably tell you that, you know, Travis, when he got upset, he would send me um…really mean e-mails, Um…he would send me mean text messages and things. Um…you’ll find probably some stuff on his Facebook. I know for sure you’ll find them on Facebook and definitely on his G-mail and you’re welcome to access all of my accounts, too, if you want.

DF: Okay.
34:12
JA: With Travis…

34:16
DF: We’re probably going to get our subpoena for all his Facebook, G-mail, you know everything just to see who he was communicating with, what he was saying, um…what they were saying to him. I’m not sure how far back…we usually go six months to a year.
JA: Okay

34:34
DF: But in a case like this, you know we need to know who had some type of beef with him – why they would do something like this. You know, I hate calling people over the phone but, you know, it’s like I said, it is a homicide investigation, and uh…It was an angry situation, and…and when we see scenes like this, um…you know the first thing we think is these people hated each other. Somebody went in there to hurt him and…and they did, and they hurt him really bad. And he’s a big guy, and it would take, like I mentioned to you before, it would take more than one person to do this to him.
JA: Can you. Was he…

35:29
DF: I was…I was just hoping maybe you could kind of point me in the right direction. I’m talking to everybody that he knows that knows…
 

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
169
Guests online
2,268
Total visitors
2,437

Forum statistics

Threads
589,966
Messages
17,928,456
Members
228,022
Latest member
Jemabogado
Back
Top