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Old 03-31-2005, 09:16 AM
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Boy in the Box/America's Unknown Child

I am new here and did a search for this case and couldn't find anything...forgive me if there is a reference here and I couldn't find it.

Anyone familiar with this case?

The website (listed below) has soooooo much information, it took me a couple of days to read it all!

Here is a link to the website http://americasunknownchild.net



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I admit I hadn't fully read the forum rules, I apologize, and I had posted the whole front page of the webpage here at first...I came back and took it off and just put the link...I have gone and read through all of the rules and will follow

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Old 04-01-2005, 08:45 PM
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I have been curious about this case for a while, I'm glad someone posted about it, hopefully someone will have some info on it. It seems like there will never be an answer. It is a sad story.
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Old 04-14-2005, 12:19 PM
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God. This case should be possible to resolve. I STILL think it has something to do with the foster home nearby where his body was found. If he has / had siblings, they'd only be late 50's or early 60's. Little man. No little baby deserves to be left in a box, beaten and all. How can people live with themselves?
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Old 04-14-2005, 12:31 PM
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This is so sad! I'm reading it but had to stop for a while once I saw the photos of that poor boy!

I could cry.

They couldn't tell from the boy's body/autopsy if he was beaten to death?
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Old 04-18-2005, 11:57 AM
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God. This case should be possible to resolve. I STILL think it has something to do with the foster home nearby where his body was found. If he has / had siblings, they'd only be late 50's or early 60's. Little man. No little baby deserves to be left in a box, beaten and all. How can people live with themselves?
Good points IMO, I posted this with hopes someone would know something. It's amazing the people that read these, you just never know. This case has haunted me for sometime. I think someone out there has info. I just pray they happen to come across this site or the actual site of The Boy in the Box.

I think one of the biggest clues is the box he was found in, if I remember correctly it was a bassett.
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Old 04-18-2005, 01:14 PM
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dont foster homes have reccords of all the children that were in the homes. dont they have records from back then on file somewhere that they can compare to the boy in the box?
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Old 04-19-2005, 12:47 AM
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There was a recent article in Philadelphia Magazine

about this case-a retired detective who is part of a group of retired LE personnel who "work" cold cases believes he may have ID'd this child(it was in the Nov 2003 issue). What this gentleman discovered was that the child had been given to a mentally unstable woman who supposedly was responsible for his death. He had located this woman's biological daughter, who even though has her own mental health issues, recounted the story of how her mother came to have the boy and how in a fit of rage, killed him.
Here is a link to the most recent info I could find(I'm originally from Philly, so this case has always had a special place in my heart!!)



http://www.northeasttimes.com/2003/1120/boyinbox.html
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Old 04-19-2005, 12:06 PM
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about this case-a retired detective who is part of a group of retired LE personnel who "work" cold cases believes he may have ID'd this child(it was in the Nov 2003 issue). What this gentleman discovered was that the child had been given to a mentally unstable woman who supposedly was responsible for his death. He had located this woman's biological daughter, who even though has her own mental health issues, recounted the story of how her mother came to have the boy and how in a fit of rage, killed him.
Here is a link to the most recent info I could find(I'm originally from Philly, so this case has always had a special place in my heart!!)



http://www.northeasttimes.com/2003/1120/boyinbox.html
I recall that too. However, and I don't have the info handy - this was possibly debunked. There were several reasons her story never quite fit. About a year ago, I was in contact with one of the investigators of this little boy in the box - and they don't quite believe it was this child for many reasons. HOWEVER... THEY'RE still trying to verify her story. That's why, on the site - they first question whether anyone KNEW a child named Jonathan.

I wish there was an ending. Little man. I'm glad he became so loved in his death though. Hopefully he can feel that love from Heaven.


Here's an update from the site regarding this woman:
September 2004: During the past year, Vidocq Society investigators located and interviewed additional people who used to live in the Lower Merion neighborhorhood where, according to the unsubstantiated testimony of an Ohio woman, the unknown boy was secretly confined in a basement and subjected to physical and sexual abuse for two years prior to his death. Two of the former neighbors had been frequent visitors to the home, and they had access to all areas, including the basement. They flatly denied that a young boy lived there. A female neighbor who had been a close friend of the family and attended the same church, said that she was astonished to learn of the false accusations being made against them. She stated that the Ohio woman's allegations are "preposterous." The Vidocq Society investigators believe they have now exhausted all investigative options relative to the Ohio lead. Sadly, what had initially appeared to be the most significant breakthrough in the long history of this investigation, has ultimately turned out to be just another frustrating dead end."


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The thing I don't understand is where the man with the specially made hat comes in. Could it have been his father? A worker at the foster home? The hatmaker remembered the man who came in to buy the hat but couldn't give very many details on him. Anyone have any thoughts?
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Old 08-23-2005, 11:02 AM
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Foster Homes...

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dont foster homes have reccords of all the children that were in the homes. dont they have records from back then on file somewhere that they can compare to the boy in the box?
Although each state has its own laws governing the foster care system, in all cases it is regulated (usually on the county government level) by a Child Protective/Welfare department. Foster homes are licensed through them and foster parents are required to be screened by social workers. Each child who enters a foster home is assigned there by the state or county, and it is the state or county which holds all the records on the child. There are also requirements for social workers to visit or meet with the child - and with the foster parents - on a regular basis.

Foster homes are required to submit reports and maintain records while the child resides with them, and while they are licensed, and during the time that they are active, they might be requested to provide certain records. Those records, however, usually relate to expenses, medical visits, school grades etc, and copies would normally be submitted to the County officials. While an individual foster parent might keep his or her own records for many years after having the child, I doubt that any such requirement exists anywhere.

Generally speaking, although there certainly are abuses and laxness in the system, Foster children are better regulated and accounted for than individual children not in foster care. The little boy found in the box was a victim of long time abuse, prior to his death. If there had been any kind of Foster Care assignment or records on him, I would think that those would have come to light early on in the investigation.
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I was reading on the America's unknown child website and they are looking for doctors from the Philadelphia area who may remember giving medical treatment to this boy in the early 1950's. Would it be possible to send a letter out to all doctor's who practiced in that area in the time frame asking about it? There could be someone who did remember but has no knowledge of the case. The chances of a doctor remembering this many years later are slim but you never know.
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If there was a doctor, who was practicing in the 1950s he/she would have had to be at least, at a minimum, what... 25?

Which means they would be, at a minimum, 71-80 yrs old today (or thereabouts). Most likely retired...

Perhaps an article(s) in various medical association newsletters would be more applicable? Nurses associations too?
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I was reading on the America's unknown child website and they are looking for doctors from the Philadelphia area who may remember giving medical treatment to this boy in the early 1950's. Would it be possible to send a letter out to all doctor's who practiced in that area in the time frame asking about it? There could be someone who did remember but has no knowledge of the case. The chances of a doctor remembering this many years later are slim but you never know.
The American Medical Association used to print directories of Doctors, and older copies of their publications might still exist in some libraries. Advertisment of medical skills was usually not done back in the 1950's, but phone directories and AMA directories might yield a list of potential MD's and pediatricians of that place and time.
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Old 01-25-2006, 02:48 AM
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If there was a doctor, who was practicing in the 1950s he/she would have had to be at least, at a minimum, what... 25?

Which means they would be, at a minimum, 71-80 yrs old today (or thereabouts). Most likely retired...

Perhaps an article(s) in various medical association newsletters would be more applicable? Nurses associations too?
Retired or deceased. Unfortunately, this happens the older a case gets.
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Old 01-25-2006, 03:00 AM
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This is so sad! I'm reading it but had to stop for a while once I saw the photos of that poor boy!

I could cry.

They couldn't tell from the boy's body/autopsy if he was beaten to death?
I know this is off-topic but your sig makes me laugh my butt off everytime I see it.
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Just bumping this little guy up. I have looked at his autopsy photos and can't belive that someone could do that to their child. His life must have been awful.
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What surprises me and I hope to raise the thoughts of others on this subject is the fact that when the police and investigators went around and questioned the Orphanages and the Foster Homes, the question was "are their any missing children from this (orphanage or home)? well if some body killed the little boy from one of those places I don't believe that they would be so forth comming with and missing children information, their was a St Josephs Catholic Orphanage I believe that was in that area I wonder if through the years and with other investigators if they have never executed a search warrent for batismal records medical records or some kind of roll count from during that year as to how many children were their and if they could all be accounted for, it seems to me that the investigators previouse and new have put so much time and effort into this case it would be a shame to leave even one stone unturned, just my thoughts.
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What surprises me and I hope to raise the thoughts of others on this subject is the fact that when the police and investigators went around and questioned the Orphanages and the Foster Homes, the question was "are their any missing children from this (orphanage or home)? well if some body killed the little boy from one of those places I don't believe that they would be so forth comming with and missing children information, their was a St Josephs Catholic Orphanage I believe that was in that area I wonder if through the years and with other investigators if they have never executed a search warrent for batismal records medical records or some kind of roll count from during that year as to how many children were their and if they could all be accounted for, it seems to me that the investigators previouse and new have put so much time and effort into this case it would be a shame to leave even one stone unturned, just my thoughts.
EXACTLY RIGHT mel36!!!
When we sent our inspection teams to foreign prisons/encampments to search for MIAS/POWS from VietNam all they did was look at the rolls!!! WTH didn't they walk up and down the tiers hollering, "Is anyone here American?" SERIOUSLY! The powers that be always seem willing to take the word of those who would be investigated and prosecuted if the child/person were found. What gives?!?!
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EXACTLY RIGHT mel36!!!
When we sent our inspection teams to foreign prisons/encampments to search for MIAS/POWS from VietNam all they did was look at the rolls!!! WTH didn't they walk up and down the tiers hollering, "Is anyone here American?" SERIOUSLY! The powers that be always seem willing to take the word of those who would be investigated and prosecuted if the child/person were found. What gives?!?!
My response is not exactly important to the case.
I just wanted to mention that when I saw this case title, which has to do with a box and then saw that the most recent post was from a user named pandora I just had to smile.
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My response is not exactly important to the case.
I just wanted to mention that when I saw this case title, which has to do with a box and then saw that the most recent post was from a user named pandora I just had to smile.
Lol!
As ugguestion about the orphanage. They investigators went through the records I am sure, but who to say some records werent destroyed by the orphanage first. Sorry, but orphanages aren't know for being rainbows and baskets of puppies. Shouldn't the county have records of all kids living there? to me he jus thas to be from the children's home. i wonder did the investigators talk to kids at the home? weould they have been any help or too scared to talk?
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Unidentified White Male Body found in a cardboard box...

Here is what the Doe Network has in its files on the little boy...

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Unidentified White Male
Body found in a cardboard box off Susquehanna Road in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on February 25, 1957
The child was severly beaten and bruised.

Vital Statistics

Estimated age: 4-6 years old
Approximate Height and Weight: 40 1/2 inches; 30 pounds

Distinguishing Characteristics: He had blue eyes and pale skin. His hair was medium to light brown, or blond in color, and was trimmed in an odd, bowl-shaped haircut. There were seven scars on the body, three of which could have resulted from surgical procedures. Two of these "surgical" scars were on the chest and groin. They had healed quite well, leaving only a hair-line trace. There was also a scar on the boy's left ankle, which looked like a "cut-down" incision. Such an incision is made to expose a vein so that a needle may be inserted to give an infusion or transfusion. There was a 1 1/2 - inch scar on the left side of the chest, and a round, irregular scar on the left elbow. On the chin was an L-shaped scar - a quarter of an inch long in each direction. There was no vaccination scar. The boy had been circumcised. He had several small moles on his body, including three on the left side of his face; one below his right ear; three on his chest; and one on his right arm, two inches above his wrist.

Dentals: The boy had a full set of baby teeth, and was also slightly buck-toothed.

Clothing: A tan child's scarf and a boy's yellow flannel shirt were also recovered at the scene. Investigators determined that the size four shirt matched the child's size at the time of his homicide. A child's pair of black shoes were also located; however, they did not fit the unidentified boy. An Ivy League style cap made of blue corduroy was also found near the box; the hat had a leather strap and buckle across the back. It was determined that the cap was made in a south Philadelphia shop; the store owner recalled that a man between the ages of 26 - 30 made the purchase. He did not speak with an accent. The purchaser was never identified.
Case History

This case has baffled the public for more than 42 years. The boy, now referred to as "America's Unknown Child" or "The Boy In The Box," has never been identified -- many leads have been followed, but proved futile.

The child's unclothed body was placed inside a cardboard box and deposited at a garbage-filled locale on Susquehanna Road in Philadelphia in February 1957. His body was beaten, although coroners' investigations were unable to pinpoint any previous broken bones or inflicted trauma. The child's nails were recently trimmed. The palm of his right hand and the soles of his feet were rough and wrinkled, indicating that the limbs had been submerged in water prior or shortly after his death. Strands of the child's own hair were present on his body, leading authorities to believe that his hair had been cut shortly before or following his homicide.

The boy was wrapped in a large piece of an inexpensive, well-worn blanket with a faded design of diamonds and blocks in green, rust-colored red, brown and white. An additional piece of the blanket was found inside the box, which was smeared with automotive grease. The third piece of the blanket remains missing.

The box which contained the child's body was from JC Penney's in Upper Darby, Pennsylvania and had been used for a white bassinette. Records were unable to pinpoint the purchaser of the item.

Below link contains a photos of the box that the victim was found in and Artist Reconstructions of the little boy.

This case has been re-opened and closed many times in over 40 years. The boy's remains were exhumed in the late 90's for DNA testing; he was then reinterred into a tomb marked "America's Unknown Child" in Philadelphia. Recently, The Vidocq Society, an assembly of esteemed detectives and forensic examiners, has taken up the case.

A long strand of brown hair -- identified as being from someone else, not the child -- was removed from the scene. In addition, a man's handkerchief with the initial "G" was located near the box. Short stands of hair were present on the material and were tested to determine if the hair came from the unidentified boy; the results of the tests are unknown.

A forensic artist created an image which may possibly reflect what the boy's father may have looked like, as seen in below link. (Courtesy of America's Most Wanted)

Update: Fall of 2000 -- An independent laboratory was able to obtain a a mitochondrial DNA profile from the boy's teeth. His remains were badly deteriorated and it was a last chance effort after failing to lift any other type of DNA.

Update: May of 2002 -- Investigators received a phone call from a psychiatrist who said that a patient of her's, named Martha, knew who the little boy was. Martha said that in 1955, when she was 11, her librarian mother drove her to a home, where she picked the boy up in exchange for an envelope which she assumed contained money. The child, called Jonathan, then came to live with them in their Philadelphia home. There, he was raised in squalor in the basement, with a drain for a bathroom and a makeshift bed amid coal bins and discarded cardboard cartons. Martha claimed that her mother regularly sexually abused her and had purchased the child to do the same to him.

The boy's death, Martha claimed, eventually came when her mother, in a fit of rage, slammed him down on the floor after he vomited in the tub. That day, her mother drove her into Philadelphia to dump the child.

Investigator Tom Augustine was amazed, but skeptical. "This is the best lead we've ever had on this case," he explained. "But until we have proof that [the boy] is who she says he is, she can talk all day long — we're not closing it."

Investigators
If you have any information as to the identity of this boy or the circumstances of his death, please contact:

Philadelphia Police Department
Homicide Division
215-686-3334

You may remain anonymous if you wish.

Source Information:
America's Unknown Child: The Boy In The Box Mystery
America's Most Wanted
Court TV
The Doe Network: Case File 4UMPA

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http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/4umpa.html
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If this case were givien more publicity I wonder if a kid from the home might come forward 50 years later.
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