Woman, 3 Children Found Dead in SUV

[pamlet]

That's one of the reasons I lean toward him I think...

All I can figure is that they were drugged or something...

[southcitymom]

Originally Posted by pamlet

That's one of the reasons I lean toward him I think...

All I can figure is that they were drugged or something...

Well, we don't whether or not the kids have defensive wounds - they were all shot multiple times, so they might.

I wonder what sort of drug could be given to them that wouldn't show up on their autopsy. Someone said GHB. And if they were drugged - wouldn't the wife have noticed?

How does he drug them before or after they are in the car without the wife noticing? Was she drugged too?

I can't believe he drugged them all and then loaded them into the car without being seen.

[eleven]

Originally Posted by southcitymom

Well, we don't whether or not the kids have defensive wounds - they were all shot multiple times, so they might.

I wonder what sort of drug could be given to them that wouldn't show up on their autopsy. Someone said GHB. And if they were drugged - wouldn't the wife have noticed?

How does he drug them before or after they are in the car without the wife noticing? Was she drugged too?

I can't believe he drugged them all and then loaded them into the car without being seen.

IF he did indeed drug them all, it would be very easy to get them in the car w/o being seen---by simply doing it in the garage.

[southcitymom]

Originally Posted by eleven

IF he did indeed drug them all, it would be very easy to get them in the car w/o being seen---by simply doing it in the garage.

You've got a point, but I have a sense that no one was drugged and everyone experienced it live and in color.

Are there really drugs that would make you pass out that wouldn't show up at autopsy - especially when the bodies were discovered and gotten to the coroner so quickly?

[pamlet]

Originally Posted by southcitymom

You've got a point, but I have a sense that no one was drugged and everyone experienced it live and in color.

Are there really drugs that would make you pass out that wouldn't show up at autopsy - especially when the bodies were discovered and gotten to the coroner so quickly?

I have NO idea... I just can't imagine her just slumped over like that.. I guess I just think it would look different somehow .. (like how many things like that have we ever seen?!?!!)

[southcitymom]

Originally Posted by pamlet

I have NO idea... I just can't imagine her just slumped over like that.. I guess I just think it would look different somehow .. (like how many things like that have we ever seen?!?!!)

Exactly - I truly don't know how it would "look."

I will say that I looked at a graphic book once filled with crime scene photos of various deaths and it was all over the place. One shooting did not necessarily look like the next shooting in those photos, if you know what I mean.

I guess this is why we have hardcore forensic people who do know how things "look" after gathering all the data.

[Camper]

IF IF IF the seat belt was in the ready for travel position - when she was shot, it would have held her up BIG TIME. When the bullet hit it would have pushed her back from the blast, but just how forward would she have moved.

I cannot remember which poster said that she has the same type of vehicle and the SUV. Question for that poster, when you are belted up for travel, how far forward can you bend? OR how far to the left can you push yourself to the left - when you are in the passenger seat? HOW much freedom of movement do you have when belted up?
Saturday will be the day, when there will be some BIG answers for all of us here and for his remaining family.

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[chicoliving]

Widower Chris Vaughn, whose wife and kids were slain in an SUV, admitted to having an affair, sources told NBC5's Amy Jacobson.

Kimberly Vaughn and her three children were found shot to death in a sport utility vehicle last week. Chris Vaughn was shot in the leg but survived, and now investigators are looking into his travel plans

http://www.nbc5.com/news/13539818/de...l?dl=mainclick

[philamena]

MSN this morning gave interesting info about this case. The families house was searched again Wednesday. LE took VCR tapes, player, etc because of a Law and Order show which aired not long ago. It's subject line was that of a family being shot and killed in their car. The mother was blamed for the murders/suicide. It was later proven the husband did it. Seems LE thinks this goof may have tried the same thing.


Read article at link.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...linked_to.html

The Chicago Tribune is reporting that the investigation into the death of the Oswego mother Kimberly Vaughn and her children has taken a twist.

If you will remember, Kimberly and her three children were found dead in their SUV along Interstate Highway 55 in rural Will county , after her husband had flagged down a passerby asking them to call 911, after being shot in the leg by his wife when got finished adjusting the vehicles luggage rack. Kimberly Vaughn died one of gun shot to the head, their children had been shot multiple times, Christopher Vaughn was said to have a minor gunshot injury to his thigh. An unidentified law enforcement official has been reported to say that the incident closely resembles a " Law and Order, SVU" episode aired on May 8th of this year. The particular episode involves a man that was leading a double life blaming his wife for the murder of their children before she took her own life in the show, the man also suffers from a minor gunshot wound and is later charged with the crime. A search was conducted to determine if anyone in the Vaughn family had watched the show.

[philamena]

Originally Posted by chicoliving

Widower Chris Vaughn, whose wife and kids were slain in an SUV, admitted to having an affair, sources told NBC5's Amy Jacobson.

Kimberly Vaughn and her three children were found shot to death in a sport utility vehicle last week. Chris Vaughn was shot in the leg but survived, and now investigators are looking into his travel plans

http://www.nbc5.com/news/13539818/de...l?dl=mainclick

Now I know he did it.

I heard a child psychologist this morning talking about this case. She said mom's drown their children but they do NOT shoot their children.

[Invisible]

This case is driving me crazy because I keep going over different scenarios in my head of how someone could shoot their children and themselves and their spouse. I think about it when I don't want to think about it. The only way it makes sense to me is if the husband did it, but why would he do it? Surely, he must have known that LE would figure out that it was him that shot his family. Weird.

[Txmom]

O come on now, how stupid can he be??? The first clue that we have that he did it is that he pulled over in a dark unlit area to deal with the BLACK luggage carrier on top of the vehicle. How in the world would he be able to see anything? It was dark and the carrier is black. If my husband tried anything like that, I would have nagged him to stop at a convenience store or a wal mart type store where there was plenty of lighting.

My ex was caught cheating with my best friend, and if I would have shot him it would have been in the balls. Not the leg. Hubby told her he was having an affair, I honestly think that she would have been pissed, but would have slapped the sh*t out of him, ignored him, and gone to moms to cool off, not shot him in the leg.

[chicoliving]

Survivor of SUV deaths reportedly couldn't recall what happened

In the hours immediately after his wife and children were found dead in their family sport-utility vehicle off Interstate Highway 55 in rural Will County, a wounded Chris Vaughn told police he could not remember what happened to him and his family, according to sources close to the investigation.

Vaughn, 32, of Oswego said he knew only that he had been wounded and had gone for help, the sources said. He asked if his wife, Kimberly, had been told what happened to him, the sources said.

The sources, all interviewed in recent days, painted the most detailed picture to date of Vaughn's initial account of what happened that day. Their account also provides greater detail as to Vaughn's wounds, and it differs from other media reports that Vaughn told police his wife shot him. After his initial statement, Vaughn later submitted to three interviews. The sources could not say what he said during these interviews.

much more at link

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...l=chi-news-hed

[RubyJune]

Originally Posted by chicoliving

Survivor of SUV deaths reportedly couldn't recall what happened

In the hours immediately after his wife and children were found dead in their family sport-utility vehicle off Interstate Highway 55 in rural Will County, a wounded Chris Vaughn told police he could not remember what happened to him and his family, according to sources close to the investigation.

Vaughn, 32, of Oswego said he knew only that he had been wounded and had gone for help, the sources said. He asked if his wife, Kimberly, had been told what happened to him, the sources said.

The sources, all interviewed in recent days, painted the most detailed picture to date of Vaughn's initial account of what happened that day. Their account also provides greater detail as to Vaughn's wounds, and it differs from other media reports that Vaughn told police his wife shot him. After his initial statement, Vaughn later submitted to three interviews. The sources could not say what he said during these interviews.

much more at link

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...l=chi-news-hed

Finally.....now I have an explanation for the bruises I get on my legs and can't explain...thigh injuries cause amnesia. Thank goodness the bullet didn't hit a bone or he may not have been able to walk away from his drivable car and get help. What a moron.

[shyspinner]

Chicago Tribune

Father's reaction detailed

What I find strange is the leaving before 5 am to drive to a water park that I think is over 100 miles away. If this is the correct water park in Springfield, possibly it is not:

Knight's Action Park, Springfield

Map

I guess they could have planned to stop for breakfast. It says in their brochure that they open at 9 am. So....over four hours allowed to get there, only to turn around a few hours later and go home for a soccer game? They would have had to plan what time they were going to leave the water park to make it home in time for the game. What kid would get up at 4 am, ride for four hours in the car, swim / play for a couple hours and then go home? My kids would have said forget it, and picked something closer to home I'm guessing.

[Txmom]

Shyspinner, I agree with you. Both of my children would have said forget it. My kids would have wanted to be there when the park first opened and then stayed until it closed. Soccer would have been on the back burner that day. And what responsible parent would wake their children before dawn to drive 300 miles roundtrip to a water park, and then expect to be home in the afternoon for soccer???

[southcitymom]

Originally Posted by Txmom

.....if I would have shot him it would have been in the balls. Not the leg. .....

Maybe she tried and missed! After all - the wound was at the top of his thigh.

I think it looks bad if his story changed in the hospital from "I don't know" to "My wife did it." The only way that change would make sense to me is if he was in shock from trauma and blood loss....which is what he seems to be saying.

Also, sometimes, I think when we get information slowly from LE and the press, it is let out so sparingly that when more details come out it's not necessarily a change in the original story of what had been told, but just an addition to it - if that makes sense.

I'm still waiting on forensics!

[Camper]

Remember those old one box cartoons, where the guy is dressed in a long flowing robe and has long unkempt hair. The tag line was always, "The End Is Near"

Vaughns end is near.

He must have decided NOT to use the SP excuse for an affair, "Laci was ok with it". Then some Ramnesia thrown in for good measure.

THE business trips to Utah, Washington and Mexico, geeze, Navigant is cooperating with LE the link says 'checking' out those business trips. GOOD grief Vaughn frequently left on Tuesday and came back on SUNDAY - for his business trips? That puts him home with wife and family ONE DAY A WEEK, OFTEN ->HUH?!?!?!

COULD it be as simple as HE DID NOT want to pay alimony??
WHEN will the ??girlfriend?? come forward?
WILL the ??girlfriend shoot him herself??

IT is obvious to me so far, that the man is certifiably "INSANE".

When will Gerragos step in, or Lin Wood???

The link refers to the funeral as being over, but hey today is visitation and tomorrow the funeral????

HIS WHOLE TALE is soooooooo OFF, cannot believe IT.
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[Camper]

Originally Posted by Txmom

Shyspinner, I agree with you. Both of my children would have said forget it. My kids would have wanted to be there when the park first opened and then stayed until it closed. Soccer would have been on the back burner that day. And what responsible parent would wake their children before dawn to drive 300 miles roundtrip to a water park, and then expect to be home in the afternoon for soccer???

--->>>As a parent of 8 children, I could not agree more. SOrry forgot who mentioned the Black secluded location to check out the Black luggage, LOL. The man needs his mental fuse box checked.


I AM now wondering IF IF he has a girlfriend with another baby of his in one of the business trip locations??

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[hollyjokers]

Well now the spontaneous waterpark trip makes even less sense and I didn't think that was possible.

Keep talking Chris, please.

[pamlet]

Originally Posted by southcitymom

I'm still waiting on forensics!

I agree - it's hard to speculate what happened based on the little that has dribbled out .. and from un-named sources at that.

You're right - forensics are the only way this case is going to be solved.

[hollyjokers]

I think our fears that his line of work would somehow help him commit the perfect crime can be laid to rest at this point. If this was the best story he could come up with...

[lisag]

I haven't been posting much on this thread, but I have been reading..
IMO, he did it... It makes absolutely no sense that HE pulls off to a secluded road so HE could deal with the luggage rack and then when he comes back, all of a sudden she takes this moment and SHE shoots him??? NOT!! She would have had no idea that he would going to pull over... That is just way too coincidental!! It just so happend to be the right timing for her??? I highly doubt it!!
This guy planned it (IMO).. Pulled off to deal with the "luggage rack", when in actuallity he got his gun ready and came back and shot his unsuspecting family.
I pray for justice for this family!!

[southcitymom]

Originally Posted by hollyjokers

I think our fears that his line of work would somehow help him commit the perfect crime can be laid to rest at this point. If this was the best story he could come up with...

I agree with this 100% - if indeed he committed this crime, it's turning out to look like he's no master criminal.

[pamlet]

Camper..

Which link talks about trips to Utah, Mexico, etc? Was that a while back?

Thanks!

WHOOPS ... found it!
http://www.nbc5.com/news/13539818/de...l?dl=mainclick