long weekend break: discuss the latest here #113

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Don't cry, Miss Arias. No jury will ever convict you. And we can mark your words on that.
 
On the previous thread someone brought up the remote control & its significance. Since I am not intimately familiar with the finer details of the case, is it possible that it was a garage remote? She borrowed 2 gas cans - isn't that where most people keep them. I store my gas cans in the garage. Maybe when she grabbed the remote to open the garage she inadvertently put the remote in her car.

Then, perhaps, when she had already purchased the 3rd gas she realized she had the remote and went back to return it. At that point DB may have seen the 3rd gas can which may explain why his testimony was so bizarre. He could hardly bring himself to acknowledge the the remote.

There are so many possibilities!

On the other hand she could have taken the garage remote on purpose, so she could get in the garage later. Did BD ever say explicitly that he was there when Jodi returned the remote? Wouldn't he be at work? Is he missing something very incriminating from his garage? Like a knife.

Oh no. My head hurts.
 
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Part 4. She asks at 03:30 what would be the punishment *if* she plead guilty!

At 05:50, Det Flor says something like she's the kid in the candy shop who has been caught stealing and then at about 06:00 says she's the type that would like to her own mom.
 
I'm a firm believer the sex was the link that kept them connected.
That's all she had to offer him, imo, was sex.

She didn't know that Travis wasn't having sex with other women. In her sick, twisted mind, she probably thought he would engage with other females the same way he was with her - which enraged her.

In her mind, if Mimi and Travis went to Cancun together, they were going to enjoy each other's company, have sex all day and night, fall in love, and get married. She would be out, and Mimi would have what she (Jodi) wanted: Travis.

JMO
 
Were they friends of JA's before she went to prison or are they prison buddies. And is Donovan male or female? tia

They were tried for arson - not sure of convictions. Jodi met them from/in prison. Interesting thing is in an interview one of them was quoted as saying Jodi deserves prison but not the death penalty.

This interview was prior to the testimony of the magazine being passed with the writing in the margins. They had something to do with that incident.
 
It's been a while so I don't know if I'm remembering correctly, but didn't the court offer to have all the jurors escorted from the courthouse? I know they gave them all keys to a door around back for when they arrive.

Maybe the judge just needs to sequester the jurors now that this has become a media circus.

For me I think it is the bigger picture of not wanting ANY Excuse for the defense to find for mistrial. Whether blaming media, JM, or them saying that jurors are hearing things. I think most of us on this site are very protective of JM and also don't want to see some technicality allow JA to get her way...

On another note if this is a juror I am surprised that the media is not trying to follow this person or that the person isn't being exposed to people with 'kill Jodi' signs or people trying to yell their opinions to them....

The cautiousness in me would just like to see precautions taken to not allow any gray area.
 
Totally agree. I suppose there are some guys/boys in this world that have abstained from that behavior but I find it extremely difficult to believe anyone who says they have never masturbated.

I thought the very same thing. Although given what we've heard, maybe there's a different name for or a different move that "technically" allows self-service - a la "stay moral - go oral", "grinding" or the "Provo Push".
 
Were they friends of JA's before she went to prison or are they prison buddies. And is Donovan male or female? tia

She is a female. I heard that her girlfriend was a cell mate of Jodi's.

Look her up. Donovan Bering and arson.
 
Can someone tell me if the Defense is DONE with the 2nd Phony Baloney Doctor/Therapist Paid grunt? Is it Mr. Martinez's turn when court resumes on Tuesday? Please tell me YES! I don't think I can handle another day of whiney Willie and he grating cheerleader voice ONE MORE DAY! UGH!

Yes
But really NO the day ended with the witness talking in generalizations about an email between Travis and Chris & Sky Hughes from Jan 31, 2007.
It's gonna be a while before Juan gets his turn at the witness.
 
They were tried for arson - not sure of convictions. Jodi met them from/in prison. Interesting thing is in an interview one of them was quoted as saying Jodi deserves prison but not the death penalty.

This interview was prior to the testimony of the magazine being passed with the writing in the margins. They had something to do with that incident.

Remember when those magazines came out? She couldn't of got out of that court room any faster. LOL
 
Were they friends of JA's before she went to prison or are they prison buddies. And is Donovan male or female? tia

Donovan is a female who was held in Estrella Jail with the defendant at one point in time.
 
I thought the very same thing. Although given what we've heard, maybe there's a different name for or a different move that "technically" allows self-service - a la "stay moral - go oral", "grinding" or the "Provo Push".

Provo Palming...?

:floorlaugh:
 
I just want some alarm to go off when cross starts of this witness.

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"It’s no surprise Jodi is suffering from “migraines” today given what is likely to be an explosive cross from Juan Martinez. Back in October, Jodi fought relentlessly to have LaVoilette’s notes from their meeting deemed a “work product”, arguing that it could be self-incriminating.

Remember that during the pre-trial hearing on August 8, 2011, LaVoilette exposed yet another Arias lie by stating that Jodi told her Travis masturbating to pictures of young boys on his laptop – directly contradicted Jodi’s previous story of seeing them on his bed.

This sent Martinez into a frenzy where he immediately requested to see ALL of LaVoilette’s documents & notes, which would likely expose yet more lies to therapists/psychologists who evaluated her."
 
Did anyone else notice in the interrogation that she says "I believe in the 10 Commandments but..." at that point the detective said something and she stopped. I REALLY wanted to hear what came out of her mouth next.

she also talks about moving close to Travis and he freaked out. But she made sure she wasn't in his "ward" or whatever. Also, when he said she could clean his house for extra money, he sent her a pic of the French maid outfit and she says "nooooooooooooo" and she says "it was a joke"

HAVE THEY PLAYED THIS IN COURT? These jurors need to see this in direct rebuttal of her on stand testibaloney.
 
Jodi Arias Unedited Police Interrogation Video 1 - YouTube


The ever helpful Ms Arias....asks Det Flores if they should be recording the interview <at about 9:10>


:floorlaugh:

Thanks for that -- hadn't seen it before. Boy, she sure loves to hear herself speak. It's news to me that Travis proposed "a lot" of times. I don't believe that - especially knowing some of the e-mails/texts he sent. Travis wanted her out of his life, and IMHO, certainly didn't want to marry her.

Is she delusional much!

MOO

Mel
 
Can someone tell me if the Defense is DONE with the 2nd Phony Baloney Doctor/Therapist Paid grunt? Is it Mr. Martinez's turn when court resumes on Tuesday? Please tell me YES! I don't think I can handle another day of whiney Willie and he grating cheerleader voice ONE MORE DAY! UGH!

They are not finished with ALV.

JW said to SKS, after eliciting the desired response from ALV, "Judge, this is probably a good time."

SKS usually follows orders directed at her from the DT. Thus, that was her cue to recess until Tuesday.

I posit that they were running out of scheduled testi-phoney earlier in the week, so they diagnosed JA with a sudden migraine which would allow them to break right after ALV states as fact -- in that reverse dimension we refer to as Sherry Stephens' Maricopa County Superior Court -- that TA was an abusive, misogynistic, pedophile, as she characterized the Hughes' email to confirm.

After all, isn't that what JA wants the jurors to chew on for the next four days?
 
She is a female. I heard that her girlfriend was a cell mate of Jodi's.

Look her up. Donovan Bering and arson.

"The friends say Arias feels especially horrible being an aunt in jail because she has new nieces that she has never been able to touch."

Those nieces are VERY lucky!!!
 
My understanding is that she contacted the bishop IN ARIZONA after she had moved to Yreka and after Travis was murdered, for the purpose of finding out what he knew.

She would never have gone to the bishop and confessed while Travis was still alive because her bishop would then have promptly contacted Travis' bishop and Travis would be called in.

The fact that Travis went to his bishop and confessed after JA moved back to Yreka means that he 1)promised not to see her again, and 2) was put on probation (possibly disfellowshipped which means can't receive communion or bless people)...but he wasn't excommunicated because he came forth voluntarily. If he sinned again, he would certainly be excommunicated unless there were mitigating circumstances (such as being tied up and forced).

We see this in his behavior when he did not follow through on his plans to visit JA in Yreka. He was sincere in his repentance.

When you understand that Jodi might not have known Travis had been to his bishop, you begin to see how the motive was accelerated for the murder. She shows up and he rejects her sexual advances. Over the following hours she learns that Mimi Hall has replaced her on the Cancun trip. She already knows he wants to get married but perhaps thinks the secret travels/sexcapades are going to continue regardless-- until she finds out he has been to the bishop without telling her.

In Mormon culture, it is considered a betrayal to go to the bishop and confess without giving your partner the opportunity to do the same thing concurrently, and thereby avoiding a perpetrator/victim view of the fornication. If you each go to your separate bishops at the same time, or both go to one bishop, it goes much easier on you If you say you are setting a wedding date, it will go very easy on you. Chances are you will not even be disfellowshipped.

With Travis putting his membership in jeopardy if he has sex with JA again, that clearly points to JA's motive to fake a sex scene to go with the phone sex in order to blackmail TA into silence. At this point, she knows she will not remain his girlfriend or his dirty little secret because he is not going to give up his membership for her--no way. That would ruin him at PPL as well. And his ability to sell a book would be nil. An excommunicated person sometimes can't even get work in Utah and some parts of Idaho and Arizona.

Her only chance to continue to prey on Mormon men and meet wealthy ones who don't know her low class morals and social status, is to silence Travis. He foolishly has threatened to expose her to all their friends for the things she has done and the stalking, etc. He knows she is a sociopath but somehow does not know they are DANGEROUS. If he follows through with his threat, she is back to living off tips in her grandmother's extra bedroom.

This is why he had to die. He refused to be silenced and she knew one foolproof way to maintain her ability to continue the Mormon/PPL goldmine she discovered and that was to kill him.

I am sure jealousy was a factor but survival as a female bombshell predator feeding on these virginal returned missionaries was paramount, imo.

Whoooa.... I see images of her sociopathic face flashing in my mind as I re-read this again and again. This post has jumped off my screen and hit me in the face it is so real. Can someone headline this post - like on the front page - so no one misses it.. ?

Thank you for this awesome explanation that fits so perfectly. THIS should be the script for the movie. Copy write it.
 
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