ME ME - Cutler, WhiteMale, Pre 60, UP81147, found offshore, Sept'72

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Namus - #UP81147
Unidentified Male

Date Body Found: September 8, 1972
Location Found: Cutler, Maine
Estimated PMI: 2-8 weeks
Year of Death: 1972

Vital Statistics:
Race: White/Caucasian
Age: Adult - Pre 60
Hair Color: Unknown
Eye Color: Unknown
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 190lbs
Clothing: Decedent was found wearing black cotton trousers with belt; white undershorts; Omega waterproof wrist watch (left wrist); blue ankle-height stocking (left foot). Decomposition suggests 2-8 weeks exposure in ocean.
Condition of Remains: Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction

Circumstances: White male found by lobsterman in the waters of the Bay of Fundy appx. 4 miles off the shore of Cutler Harbor, Cutler, Maine. No distinguishing features noted.

No comparisons listed on Namus.

Perhapse he was in a boating accident?

 

[HopeRains]

Larger map of the area - New Brunswick or Nova Scotia could be origins as well.

 

[DS2021]

Omega waterproof wrist watch

These watches are pricey, I think we may be looking at someone upper class/ upper middle class.

 

[Caring1]

Cutler Harbor is due east of Lake Champlain which is where George Nikita’s final radio contact was reported in January 1971.

The PMI timeline would not fit with unidentified estimation of 2-8 weeks exposure in the ocean. However, the relevance of location and both reported to be wearing an Omega watch might deserve a comparison review.

This is only a suggestion in case PMI timeline estimate could be off a year and MOO only. May not be a strong candidate.

George
Height 5' 5" - 5' 9" (65 - 69 Inches)
Weight 120 - 160 lbs

UID male estimated at 5’8” and 190 lbs

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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[Puzzleworth]

Cutler Harbor is due east of Lake Champlain which is where George Nikita’s final radio contact was reported in January 1971.

The PMI timeline would not fit with unidentified estimation of 2-8 weeks exposure in the ocean. However, the relevance of location and both reported to be wearing an Omega watch might deserve a comparison review.

This is only a suggestion in case PMI timeline estimate could be off a year and MOO only. May not be a strong candidate.

George
Height 5' 5" - 5' 9" (65 - 69 Inches)
Weight 120 - 160 lbs

UID male estimated at 5’8” and 190 lbs

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The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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It's funny you should mention Mr. Nikita. His plane was just found in Lake Champlain!

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/12/nx-s...-1971-found-in-vermont-lake-champlain-vermont

So while his remains aren't officially found yet, it's extremely unlikely that he is Cutler John Doe.

 

[Caring1]

It's funny you should mention Mr. Nikita. His plane was just found in Lake Champlain!

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/12/nx-s...-1971-found-in-vermont-lake-champlain-vermont

So while his remains aren't officially found yet, it's extremely unlikely that he is Cutler John Doe.

Just read about the plane. Nope, Cutler JD is definitely not Mr. Nikita.

 

[Caring1]

NamUs modified today. No new info and no exclusions visible.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[DS2021]

NamUs modified today. No new info and no exclusions visible.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

I think the mention of him being Uncircumcised and edentulous is new

 

[Warwick1991]

I think the mention of him being Uncircumcised and edentulous is new

One part of the NamUs on this man notes that his watch is a Timex Omega, the other section notes that it is an Omega. I don't think there are any older Timex watches that are called Omega models - that would be a trademark violation. It is unfortunate that there's no picture of the watch.

He is now listed as edentulous. This is unusual for a pre-60 individual, but it's possible that he wore dentures at a younger age due to severe dental disease. On the other hand, his body could lose its teeth in the ocean - the ocean ravages a body. I am not sure if the listing means he had no teeth while he was alive, or whether his teeth were lost at sea

Omega watches, especially the Seamaster, are renowned for their water resistance and have also been owned by people who work on the water.

 

[Caring1]

PMI off a couple of months but looks like Louis Hogan’s plane could have crashed near the area in May 1972.

He was picking up a new Citabria aircraft from Connecticut to deliver to Lisair (his employer) in Houlton, Maine. The Augusta VOR was out of service and as he attempted to switch to it from the Kennebunk VOR, he became lost in a storm. He placed a mayday call that was picked up by the Portland, Maine airport at 1207 hours which was the last contact with him. It is believed his plane may have crashed in Southwestern Maine or Eastern New Hampshire in poor weather.

Height5' 7" - 5' 8" (67 - 68 Inches)
Weight165 - 180 lbs

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[DS2021]

On the other hand, his body could lose its teeth in the ocean - the ocean ravages a body. I am not sure if the listing means he had no teeth while he was alive, or whether his teeth were lost at sea

I would lean towards them saying he was edentulous in life

 

[DS2021]

PMI off a couple of months but looks like Louis Hogan’s plane could have crashed near the area in May 1972.

He was picking up a new Citabria aircraft from Connecticut to deliver to Lisair (his employer) in Houlton, Maine. The Augusta VOR was out of service and as he attempted to switch to it from the Kennebunk VOR, he became lost in a storm. He placed a mayday call that was picked up by the Portland, Maine airport at 1207 hours which was the last contact with him. It is believed his plane may have crashed in Southwestern Maine or Eastern New Hampshire in poor weather.

Height5' 7" - 5' 8" (67 - 68 Inches)
Weight165 - 180 lbs

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

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Ruled out

 

[DS2021]