Found Deceased IN - Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #161

[Tricia]

Welcome back to the Delphi Murders discussion thread.

On the afternoon of Feb. 13th, 2017, best friends Abigail Williams and Liberty German were dropped off at a bridge in the town of Delphi. On Feb 14th their bodies were discovered around noon about 50 feet from the north bank of Deer Creek which is about 0.5 miles from the bridge.
The Sheriff's office gave a press conference on 4/22/19 and we have some solid information. Please take a look below

HERE IS THE NEW SKETCH FROM THE PRESS CONFERENCE ON 4/22/19

HERE IS THE NEW AUDIO. IT'S-A BIT LONGER THAN THE FIRST AUDIO:
https://www.in.gov/isp/files/Delphi_Audio_Edited_2019x3.wav

Here is the old audio in a loop:
http://www.in.gov/isp/files/Delphi_male_voice_loop.mp3

LATEST PRESS CONFERENCE 4/22/19

FOR MORE CLICK HERE FOR THE CARROL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FACEBOOK PAGE.

Anyone with information about this case, no matter how insignificant, is encouraged to call the Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at (844) 459-5786.

Information can also be reported by calling the Indiana State Police at(800) 382-7537, or the Carroll County Sheriff's Department at (765) 564-2413.

Information can also be emailed to Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com

video of press conference from 2017 02/22/17: https://www.facebook.com/NewsCenter1...4728963476130/

Let's do this. Let's commit to getting this killer's picture and voice out there any possible way we can.

Pictures of Abby and Libby

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Case map by skibaboo updated with grayhuze crime flow video

Grayhuze youtube channel
Murder sheet YouTube

Verified Insiders: None in this case at this time. Verified Professional, Member michael.gartley, is a Verified Expert in Imaging Science.

RULES OF THIS DISCUSSION
DO NOT post photos of random individuals (including persons featured in MSM articles about other area crimes) to compare to the images of unidentified suspect on the bridge.

PLEASE DO NOT POST PICTURES OF SEX OFFENDERS!

Do not sleuth family, PERIOD. This includes previous public records which have nothing to do with this case. They are victims here. Plain and simple.

If you feel you have a tip, by all means, phone it in. Do NOT discuss your tip here. Contact the authorities and give them time to follow your lead.

NOTE - per Tricia and Sillybilly’s 5.28.2021 post here, JBC as a poi is now open for discussion in the Delphi thread.

Added 12/12/21
For general discussion on KAK’s current case please use his thread.
IN, Peru - Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, arrested Aug 29, 2020, 30 Counts associated with CSAM

 

[Sillybilly]

A consolidation of ADMIN & MOD notes (edited November 24, 2022):

- Members are allowed to discuss Richard Allen's voice as heard on the Gray Hughes podcast. Members may NOT link directly to RA's wife’s social media accounts.

- Speculation about RA’s possible involvement in other cases belongs in the OTHER CASES thread.

- Speculation that is not based on known fact is not allowed.

- Please use initials only for anyone other than victims or perps.

- If you have questions about rules or moderation, please do not ask them on the thread. Just jump off any post to use the Report feature to ask and a Mod or Admin will respond as soon as possible.

- Rumors are not allowed. If you can't link information to Websleuths approved sources, do NOT post it with "I read it somewhere" or "I'll find the link later ...".

- Sleuthing or discussing RSOs just because they are on the registry is not allowed. A thread specific exception may be made by Tricia or an Admin depending on geographical location in relation a crime.

- Photo alterations or side-by-side comparisons of unrelated pictures are not allowed.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Mod Note:
For general JBC II discussions please use his thread. In Abby & Libby’s thread, JBC II should only be discussed in the context of a possible connection to Abby & Libby’s case.
Thanks Everyone!

JBC II Thread:
IN - James Chadwell II, 42, arrested after girl 9, found in his home, Lafayette, 19 Apr 2021 #3

Added 12/12/21
For general discussion on KAK’s current case please use his thread.
IN, Peru - Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, arrested Aug 29, 2020, 30 Counts associated with CSAM

 

[MadMcGoo]

MOD NOTE:

There has been a major cleanup on this thread tonight due to numerous TOS violations. Here are the RULES we all agreed to upon joining this site.

We have a thread dedicated to KAK HERE. If you have an update specific to any of his current charges, pending charges or news, it is to be posted on that thread. For example, dismissals, court appearances, etc.

This is an example of an article and subject matter that may be brought up for discussion on this thread. This pertains to KAK and Abby’s and Libby’s cases. Although sources such as this are approved, you personally have the right to decide how much credibility you give to them. Nevertheless, they remain approved sources here on Websleuths.

Regardless of what is posted in ANY approved source, RA’s family (to include photos) are completely off limits as of this post. They are victims. PERIOD.

If you’re going to reference or discuss a topic (even if it’s been brought up before), a link to an approved source must be provided. Otherwise, don’t mention it.

Decisions made by officials may not sit well with us, but they’re most often made for a reason.

And lastly, STAY ON TOPIC. Please and THANK YOU!

- Mad

 

[CocoChanel]

MOD NOTE:

There has been a major cleanup on this thread tonight due to numerous TOS violations. Here are the RULES we all agreed to upon joining this site.

We have a thread dedicated to KAK HERE. If you have an update specific to any of his current charges, pending charges or news, it is to be posted on that thread. For example, dismissals, court appearances, etc.

If you’re going to reference or discuss a topic (even if it’s been brought up before), a link to an approved source must be provided. Otherwise, don’t mention it.

Decisions made by officials may not sit well with us, but they’re most often made for a reason.

And lastly, STAY ON TOPIC. Please and THANK YOU!

- Mad

ADMIN NOTE:
For those asking for clarification re:WHO/WHAT can be discussed on the Delphi thread, the above MOD NOTE IS THE CLARIFICATION. THIS is what the ADMIN/MOD team has decided and is asking.

THANK YOU for your efforts to follow the sometimes fluid rules as they apply to specific cases.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

Sorry folks, but statement analysis, body language analysis, amateur handwriting analysis is not allowed unless sourced to a credentialed, forensic specialist involved in the case under discussion.

This discussion is dedicated to Abby and Libby. Posts that do not relate directly to their case are off topic and such posts get removed. If you wish to discuss personal matters, please do so with your WS friends through PM or in the basement.

Also, the presumption of innocence is part and parcel of the judicial process. It does not apply to the general public who are entitled to express their opinion. Members are not here to be lectured or chastised by others for expressing their personal opinions. If you have an issue, use the Report feature and let Mods or Admins determine what is or is not okay to post.

Thanks.

Sillybilly
WS Administrator

 

[MadMcGoo]

Several posts have just been removed that stemmed from discussion of a poll thread. Vote in a poll and move on, or take the discussion of said poll to a private conversation.

Thanks,
Mad

 

[MadMcGoo]

MOD NOTE:

If your post begins with any of the following, IT IS LIKELY AT RISK OF BEING REMOVED, along with any of its replies. Please take the time to find an approved source link to accompany the information you post.

“I thought I read somewhere…”

“I seem to remember hearing…”

“I’m not sure if I can bring this up, but…”

“I can’t remember where I heard this…”

OR

“This is just a rumor…”

Thanks,
Mad

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

Gray Hughes has obtained Richard Allen’s voice from social media that we would not normally approve, so here’s how we are going to handle this. This is really a Gray area (yeah, I said that )

Obviously as RA is the accused, his voice is of great interest to all, and we would not be relevant in the true crime community if we disallowed it when it is so highly relevant.

After discussion with Tricia, the decision is that we will allow members to fully discuss the voice as heard on Gray’s podcast.

We will NOT allow direct linking to the wife’s social media accounts.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

Websleuths is basically pro-LE. The general LE bashing in this thread has to stop or permanent thread bans or TOs will be issued.

 

[MadMcGoo]

Mod Note:

Thank you to @JudgeJudi for bringing this video to our attention. This video is approved on a one-time basis as it provides a good visual guide for information provided in the PCA.

 

[MadMcGoo]

MOD NOTE:

Although a source is approved here on Websleuths, you personally have the right to decide how much credibility you give to these sources. The fact that a source is or is not approved and the reasons why, however, are not up for debate.

Also, if you have a post removed for a particular reason, do not attempt to post the same information and expect it not to be removed also.

Thanks,
Mad

 

[MadMcGoo]

If you haven’t read this, I encourage you to!

DocumentCloud

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[YaYa_521]

Continue the discussion here.

 

[Salah11]

I think it’s important to remember even though RL was investigated he was never charged in relation to this crime. They had years to investigate him and file charges if he was involved and that never happened.


Only one man sits in jail charged with these awful crimes.

 

[FrostedGlass]

I think it’s important to remember even though RL was investigated he was never charged in relation to this crime. They had years to investigate him and file charges if he was involved and that never happened.


Only one man sits in jail charged with these awful crimes.

Thanks for the reminder. He was never named a suspect, either.

 

[Gemmie]

I think it’s important to remember even though RL was investigated he was never charged in relation to this crime. They had years to investigate him and file charges if he was involved and that never happened.


Only one man sits in jail charged with these awful crimes.

That is a very good point but here is what I wonder... His warrant was written in such a way that they thought he had committed the murders early on in their investigation. The facts of the CS don't change though. So they searched his house and didn't find anything to tie him as the murderer. He's never charged.

But this is what I wonder... What if they dismissed him solely because of that (no evidence that HE murdered them), and didn't yet have enough pieces of the puzzle to consider that he was somehow involved (one of the tentacles). Fast forward 6 yrs and their puzzle pieces fall into place and now they arrest RMA for the murders. That's because the unspent casing wasn't RL's, it was RMA's. Also perhaps the knives they took from RA didn't match either, but RMA's do. And then there are the hairs/fibers. LE isn't keeping us up-to-date with every little thing they know or find out. Rightly so.

So to me, just because he wasn't convicted of murder (because it appears he didn't do the actual murdering)... that doesn't mean he's not involved somehow. It's not a black and white thing. I've posted about him asking his cousin to lie to get an alibi about being picked up around the time things went down umpty million times now.

And now he's dead. However, keep in mind LE hadn't obtained whatever the final puzzle piece was to make an arrest until a few months ago, 10 months after RL died. They were still investigating all angles and all of the 'tentacles'. Due to that, and the fact LE hasn't said for sure that RL has been crossed off their list, I'm thinking he very well still could be involved somehow. And if he was still alive, we might have seen his name pop up in MSM recently in regards to this case.

It ain't over till it's over and LE just recently reinflated their ball and it's back in the game now.

Pg 8:

https://interactive.wthr.com/pdfs/logan-warrrant.pdf

 

[M. Kay]

Continue the discussion here.

I'm going in circles without being able to "continue" from here?

 

[Gemmie]

I'm going in circles without being able to "continue" from here?

You just continued here. Welcome to the conversation!

 

[YaYa_521]

I'm going in circles without being able to "continue" from here?

Another member had a similar issue recently. The solution that worked for them was to sign out of Websleuths then back in again which allows the software to reset. You might consider trying that to see if it works for you. If not, try clearing your browser's cookies. Any issues beyond that I'd refer you to the "Report a Problem" link located at the bottom of every WS page. Good luck!