Deceased/Not Found MD - Heather Grogg, 33, & Danielle Tyler, 18, Carroll Co, 6 Apr 2020 *arrest*

[Truecrime2456]

As in he was released from jail?!?

Transferred

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

Transferred

He was booked into Eastern Regional Jail in Martinsburg, WV on 2/5/2024. The Berkeley County Court and a US District Court are in Martinsburg so maybe this is a sign trials might happen soon?

You can look up WV jail inmates by name here:

Search - OIS Search

His new mugshot shows he has a tattoo on his throat that says "MM". I wish I could unsee that.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

Not sure what this means???
JEFFREY SMITH was released from custody on 02/02/2024. The release reason is: Detainer.
I hope just maybe the trial will be starting soon. Sooner or later justice should be served. Fingers crossed!!

Detainer means an order to hold an offender in custody. Detainer means a warrant or hold placed against an inmate by another jurisdiction (called the “detaining authority”) notifying the holding facility of the intention to take custody of the individual when he or she is released.

I just went back a few pages to refresh my memory and found that cujenn81 mentioned earlier in this thread "Detainer" means transfer to another jurisdiction.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

I just did a search and found the following, using names instead of initials since the initials have faded in my memory:

Jeffery Smith, Norman Bradford, April Braner, and John Black are at Eastern Regional Jail in Martinsburg, WV

David Sanford is at Potomac Heights Jail in Augusta, WV

Monroe Merrell is not listed in any WV jail. He has a Federal Bureau of Prisons ID of 20346-509 but the FBOP inmate search says he is not in their custody. I speculated over a year ago he may be in jail near Pittsburgh because his attorney and the regional FBI office investigating are both in Pittsburgh. Purely a guess on my part.

Does anyone know why MM would have a prison ID#? I thought people charged with a crime were held in jail before trial and only if convicted would go to prison and get a prison ID#.

 

[Venom]

He was booked into Eastern Regional Jail in Martinsburg, WV on 2/5/2024. The Berkeley County Court and a US District Court are in Martinsburg so maybe this is a sign trials might happen soon?

You can look up WV jail inmates by name here:

Search - OIS Search

His new mugshot shows he has a tattoo on his throat that says "MM". I wish I could unsee that.

I think the face tattoo is new also.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

I think the face tattoo is new also.

Agree. It looks to me like the tattoo under his eye is "XXII", 22 in Roman numerals.

Early on in this thread someone knowledgeable posted information decoding the meaning of some of Monroe M's tattoos from his social media posts. He had a 14 which is a dog whistle to some white supremacist BS and an 88 which is a Hitler/Nazi/Aryan dog whistle.

I find it interesting these people don't have the courage to get the tattoo that says "Hitler" or "white power" but think they are bad ____ hiding behind obvious signs like they are frat boys at Skull & Bones or some other secret society.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

Does anyone know why MM would have a prison ID#? I thought people charged with a crime were held in jail before trial and only if convicted would go to prison and get a prison ID#.

Answering my own question or just thinking out loud...MM might have a federal prison ID number because he is a convicted felon from years before this case happened? He was convicted of kidnapping in 2017.

 

[Venom]

I haven't really thought in depth about this case in a while. I've wondered why it seems to be taking forever and why no news seems to be out about it. Last night I went back through and re-read a little bit and thought of some things.
The initial murder of JR seems so senseless. Could it have been a task or initiation into the Pagans?

 

[pizzaman12]

I haven't really thought in depth about this case in a while. I've wondered why it seems to be taking forever and why no news seems to be out about it. Last night I went back through and re-read a little bit and thought of some things.
The initial murder of JR seems so senseless. Could it have been a task or initiation into the Pagans?

Meth people do meth things. That's my experience

 

[Pleeang]

JS was transferred to another jail today. When will the trials ever start? The families and friends still need closure and justice.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

Meth people do meth things. That's my experience

I got stuck on the idea of an initiation to the Pagans also but gave up on it after some time. I think pizzaman12 is right, young people doing who knows what drugs in the home of an alleged drug dealer in the wee hours after leaving a biker gang party...nobody at the DS/ERD apartment was making great choices that night.

I do think if MM wasn't there JR probably would have gotten punched a couple times then he would have gone home, end of story. MM was only 60 days out of prison where he had probably learned the behavior that going to extreme violence when wronged in any way was a survival strategy. He was also at the party with his girlfriend who he hadn't known long so may have been trying to impress her. He was in prison previously because of a very violent crime that could have ended in murder. I don't know much about MM but I get the feeling he would be in jail or prison today for some other violent crime if JR hadn't been there that fateful night.

MOO

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

JS was transferred to another jail today. When will the trials ever start? The families and friends still need closure and justice.

Where was he transferred to? JS no longer shows up in the WV jail search.

 

[Pleeang]

Got a message today that DAVID SANFORD was transferred from Potomac Highlands Regional Jail and Correctional Facility to Eastern Regional Jail and Corrections Facility today. I hope so much that since, with them moving everyone around. Means a trial will be starting soon!!

 

[Pleeang]

Been 4 years since the 3 people were killed. Is there ever going to be any trials? What is taking so long? The families and friends need closure.

 

[Wvturbo]

As in he was released from jail?!?

Detainer usually means another prison/correction/jail/agency placed on inmate

Meth people do meth things. That's my experience

it had nothing to do with them. The guy wasn’t even a legitimate member of the MC group, he lied about being in good standing or in club. He lied also to MM about prospecting to join. It was in an acticle written about the murders. It also stated that the location wasn’t an active club house for them.

 

[Wvturbo]

RSBM

I can't come up with motive. The murder seems brutal, usually that means it is personal. But if it was personal why have so many people involved? It wasn't a crime of passion if they are standing around handing out gloves beforehand. MM, ERD, and DS all have records including possession with intent to distribute so it is likely drugs are involved. Maybe JR threatened to tell the police about drugs? Or they thought he was stealing drugs or money? Or they thought HG was stealing and maybe JR defended her?

What is JB's role? From what we know he didn't stab JR in front of "several witnesses", only DS did (while MM was holding JR down). JB wasn't arrested until DS was in jail so DS has to have implicated JB. MM isn't in custody until the day after JB is arrested so MM wasn't the one telling LE that JB did anything.

Could there have been more than 4 people in that car that drove to West Virginia? Maybe HG and DT were in the car when it left and not in the car when it got back, hence the "critically missing"? That seems like a stretch to have 6 people in a Chevy Malibu for hours.

It was over $40 stolen or not paid back supposedly, lol ll

RSBM

I can't come up with motive. The murder seems brutal, usually that means it is personal. But if it was personal why have so many people involved? It wasn't a crime of passion if they are standing around handing out gloves beforehand. MM, ERD, and DS all have records including possession with intent to distribute so it is likely drugs are involved. Maybe JR threatened to tell the police about drugs? Or they thought he was stealing drugs or money? Or they thought HG was stealing and maybe JR defended her?

What is JB's role? From what we know he didn't stab JR in front of "several witnesses", only DS did (while MM was holding JR down). JB wasn't arrested until DS was in jail so DS has to have implicated JB. MM isn't in custody until the day after JB is arrested so MM wasn't the one telling LE that JB did anything.

Could there have been more than 4 people in that car that drove to West Virginia? Maybe HG and DT were in the car when it left and not in the car when it got back, hence the "critically missing"? That seems like a stretch to have 6 people in a Chevy Malibu for hours.

It was over $40 that was allegedly stolen or not paid back like said. Like others have stated too many witnesses, tried to clean up

 

[Wvturbo]

It was over $40 that was allegedly stolen or not paid back like said. Others lost their life allegedly because they were witness to it and it was rumored they are going to go speak about it

 

[Wvturbo]

I wonder where the information came from that Riddle went there to visit Grogg? I have seen it in the MSM reports but obviously Riddle didn't tell anyone that, at least not after the fact. Maybe he told his wife that as an excuse to go out to a party? Or Grogg told the police that is why he was there, whether that was true or not.

It would be interesting to know what his relationship was to DS, JB, and in particular MM. Did he testify in MM's earlier kidnapping trial and this was pure revenge?

He owed $40 or stole it off them.