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SHOCKER!!! he waived his right to appear. no surprise there.
That would be like shoveling money into a furnace. The sexual abuse charges are based on irrefutable evidence, and that alone is a life sentence.The public defender who spoke on behalf of SS today.... was admitted to the bar in September 2022.... I'm surprised Mommy and Daddy didn't hire a high profile lawyer for their delusional son.
Maybe they flushed that money down the toilet, may as well, it would yield the same results as spending it on SS defense. They see the writing on the wall.The public defender who spoke on behalf of SS today.... was admitted to the bar in September 2022.... I'm surprised Mommy and Daddy didn't hire a high profile lawyer for their delusional son.
It's very interesting that LE stated Madeline is the only victim. Also LE usually says if someone is cooperating with them. MOOMy takeaways from felony Wednesday:
Premeditated = malice aforethought = he knew what he was doing, meant to do it and it wasn’t an accident.
I think they have another suspect. Or at least enough evidence to believe there might be an additional suspect/s. If they didn’t, I think they’d say something along the lines of “we believe he acted alone,” or something like that.
I also agree that if they weren’t looking at JS at all they’d put out that fire. And I think it’s perfectly reasonable for us here at WS to suspect her involvement.
Where is Mom?
Lies are one form of confession,about the ' WE" statement and the lie about seeing her get dressed at 8 am. why the need to lie? whether he told her to lie, or it was guilt about something? the fact that she felt the need to lie, What was the point?
Does that not imply she had to know something was up? why not just say My boyfriend drove her? but to lie about it, and create a different story ... why? if you know you are lying, you have to know why.
BINGO. There is zero margin for lying when your child is missing period. MOOLies are one form of confession,
Providing a false alibi is being an accessory after the fact.
She really ought to be fully on board with the police to get SS convicted to the full extent of the law, and if that means doing her own time she should care less. Justice for Maddie should be her only concern.
Seems like it's a trend these days. I guess I'd probably do the same! But then again, I will never need to.SS is taking a page from another cowardly lion, Adam Montgomery. Eventually SS will have to face the public and the judge
The only thoughts I personally have are really upsetting/depressing.the 27th is a difficult piece of information to reconcile now based on LE not stating if Madeline was even in the home that evening or morning.....the only info disclosed by LE initially:
SS dumped her belongings at 7:35am. his license plate was captured near her school at 8:10am. she was spotted in his vehicle when he RETURNED to the complex. they believed her to be deceased.
then the initial LE presser skips to: his vehicle is spotted later on in the day on the side of the road (supposed tire issue). the 27th could be right after midnight on the 26th....does it really mean she was still alive, after all, initially they used the term 'believed'....or just pointing to disposing of her remains, having scoped out the location that afternoon of the 26th and returned after midnite (no lights on that road, IIRC).
any thoughts?
On the other hand, this also opens up the possibility JS did see MS that morning, although not at 8am. Premeditation could mean the plan to kill MS--whatever it looked like--and MS was alive, but incapacitated and only APPEARED deceased in those video images of her in SS car.
Could strangulation be considered premeditated since it…. isn’t quick? I am not sure about in Florida specifically, what is considered premeditation.SBM
Premeditation just means he meant to kill her. It doesn’t mean he was planning on it days or even hours before, necessarily. As someone mentioned upthread, premeditation can be established in a manner of minutes before death occurs. So I don’t think the fact that they attached it to the charges necessarily means he had plans ahead of time to kill her. He certainly could have, but it still could have been a spur of the moment thing.
Could strangulation be considered premeditated since it…. isn’t quick? I am not sure about in Florida specifically, what is considered premeditation.
They never specifically said where she was killed.Wasn't there a presser or some other comment by LE where it was stated MS died in the home? Or am I mistaken and this was our (general) interpretation of other remarks?
Gemmie posted a good definition of it… I think strangulation is unlikely with premeditation since it’s more of a crime of passion, unless he decided beforehand he was going to kill her and chose that manner of death. If they added premeditation they have to be able to eliminate those factors that were listed in Gemmie’s post, which to me would be more difficult to do with strangulation - defense could be, “I didn’t mean for her to die, I got carried away,” etc. With premeditation my guess is something more like blunt force trauma or intentionally drugging her. MOO.Could strangulation be considered premeditated since it…. isn’t quick? I am not sure about in Florida specifically, what is considered premeditation.
I'm going to look back on some old posts I remember we had a pretty good debate on what he said at the presser and it included links . I think I remember it being unclear , thats why we were debating , ( yikes, now to find them )Wasn't there a presser or some other comment by LE where it was stated MS died in the home? Or am I mistaken and this was our (general) interpretation of other remarks?
MOO I would say yes its murder 1.Gemmie posted a good definition of it… I think strangulation is unlikely with premeditation since it’s more of a crime of passion, unless he decided beforehand he was going to kill her and chose that manner of death. If they added premeditation they have to be able to eliminate those factors that were listed in Gemmie’s post, which to me would be more difficult to do with strangulation - defense could be, “I didn’t mean for her to die, I got carried away,” etc. With premeditation my guess is something more like blunt force trauma or intentionally drugging her. MOO.
From @Mack the Knife's notes from this post from the presser:I'm going to look back on some old posts I remember we had a pretty good debate on what he said at the presser and it included links . I think I remember it being unclear , thats why we were debating , ( yikes, now to find them )
thread 5 post 21 is where we started talking about itI'm going to look back on some old posts I remember we had a pretty good debate on what he said at the presser and it included links . I think I remember it being unclear , thats why we were debating , ( yikes, now to find them )