falkenberg3132
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MD will have a lot better life going forward than KG. That's not right to me.
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She has a criminal record now. Additionally, I fail to see how a self serving apology at this stage would have a good outcome. It might be good optics for viewers, but for KG it would have no benefit in my humble opinion. The time to offer KG mercy is water under the bridge. KG’s road ahead is one of uncertainty, pain, suffering, and struggling just to get back to a state of normal. She is missing out daily on her education and life. If the juvenile justice system can’t parcel out a fitting punishment to a first time offender and are only focusing on past criminal record as a basis for said punishment, then there will be no justice served for KG. I can only hope the punishment fits the crime. JMOI doubt MD will be placed in a residential facility because I doubt she has a criminal record. Missouri has a model juvenile justice system. The goal is to get her back on the right track. It has been reported that she wants to personally apologize to KG so I think that process has started and will have a good outcome.
JMO
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snipped for focus. @Puzzles8....Even though they attended the same school, the incident occurred off campus. I don't know if the school's arms reach that far. It would be interesting to know."
JMO
BBM. That is my point: the Missouri Juvenile Court is going to treat MD as a first time offender.She has a criminal record now. Additionally, I fail to see how a self serving apology at this stage would have a good outcome. It might be good optics for viewers, but for KG it would have no benefit in my humble opinion. The time to offer KG mercy is water under the bridge. KG’s road ahead is one of uncertainty, pain, suffering, and struggling just to get back to a state of normal. She is missing out daily on her education and life. If the juvenile justice system can’t parcel out a fitting punishment to a first time offender and are only focusing on past criminal record as a basis for said punishment, then there will be no justice served for KG. I can only hope the punishment fits the crime. JMO
A first time offender who swung for the fence on her first offense and nearly killed someone. Certainly the nature of this first offense must weigh heavily. I sure hope so.BBM. That is my point: the Missouri Juvenile Court is going to treat MD as a first time offender.
JMO
@Dotta Thx for your post.Hmmm...
School takes responsibility for students while they are on school premises during lessons/school events or during trips organised by school.
After school,
children are under responsibility of parents/legal guardians.
I wouldn't be so sure about that.MD will have a lot better life going forward than KG. That's not right to me.
And some other people may view that as being a willful combatant. Though, I agree, it can be spun many different ways.*In terms of messaging nasty things to each other, responding to someone who is bullying you doesn't necessarily make you a bully. Some people see it as standing up.*
I think this really distills the needed concept down to its core element. Short, to the point- and needed.However, when you decide to teach someone a lesson by way of mutual combat, you bear the responsibility of the end result. Both must pay the price for the choices they made.
She has a criminal record now. Additionally, I fail to see how a self serving apology at this stage would have a good outcome. It might be good optics for viewers, but for KG it would have no benefit in my humble opinion. The time to offer KG mercy is water under the bridge. KG’s road ahead is one of uncertainty, pain, suffering, and struggling just to get back to a state of normal. She is missing out daily on her education and life. If the juvenile justice system can’t parcel out a fitting punishment to a first time offender and are only focusing on past criminal record as a basis for said punishment, then there will be no justice served for KG. I can only hope the punishment fits the crime. JMO
Agree whoeheartedlyNot just what she's missing out on now. There's a possibility that there are things she could miss out on for the rest of her life due to her injuries like certain careers, income potential, health status, ability to get life insurance or disability insurance, even friendships or other types of relationships depending on the damage and how it impacts her personality and behavior. The trajectory of her life has changed forever. This is an adult case if ever there was one.
MOO.
Did Declue seriously believe Gain was a threat to her? One is 150+ pounds and her “attacker” was what, 90 pounds? Puleeze.Gain’s stepmother, who was allowed to be anonymous in open court, gave a statement, saying she has to relearn how to walk, speak and take care of herself.
“A terrible choice made by two teen girls to solve their issues through violence caused one to go too far with her bare hands and a concrete road,” the stepmother said.
Declue’s mother, Consuella Declue, tearfully addressed the court at the end of the hearing saying her daughter regretted the incident, but maintained she was acting in self defense.
“My family, my church, we all prayed for KG [Kaylee Gain],” she said in court. “I think [my daughter] was just defending herself, I don’t think she had any intent or thought this would happen to KG and we are very sorry.”
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Kaylee Gain attacker Maurnice Declue should be tried as a juvenile after pavement beatdown, officer testifies
According to testimony, both sides acknowledged Gain had started the fight with DeClue — and had gotten suspended for fighting another girl the previous day.nypost.com
Seriously, did Declue actually believe Gain was a threat to her? One is 150+ pounds and her “attacker” was what, 90 pounds? Puleeze.Gain’s stepmother, who was allowed to be anonymous in open court, gave a statement, saying she has to relearn how to walk, speak and take care of herself.
“A terrible choice made by two teen girls to solve their issues through violence caused one to go too far with her bare hands and a concrete road,” the stepmother said.
Declue’s mother, Consuella Declue, tearfully addressed the court at the end of the hearing saying her daughter regretted the incident, but maintained she was acting in self defense.
“My family, my church, we all prayed for KG [Kaylee Gain],” she said in court. “I think [my daughter] was just defending herself, I don’t think she had any intent or thought this would happen to KG and we are very sorry.”
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Kaylee Gain attacker Maurnice Declue should be tried as a juvenile after pavement beatdown, officer testifies
According to testimony, both sides acknowledged Gain had started the fight with DeClue — and had gotten suspended for fighting another girl the previous day.nypost.com
And their own conscience.Hmmm...
School takes responsibility for students while they are on school premises during lessons/school events or during trips organised by school.
After school,
children are under responsibility of parents/legal guardians.
I believe in watching the video once that Kaylee was a member of a “group”. MD knew she could ground and pound Kaylee ( which she did) but had to have back up to make sure Kaylees “group” didn’t even out the odds. ( which they attempted to do). Although these two groups may not be established gang members, they are acting as suchDid Declue seriously believe Gain was a threat to her? One is 150+ pounds and her “attacker” was what, 90 pounds? Puleeze.