Dotta
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IMO
Such articles only serve to JUSTIFY the crazy sky high fees.
What has it got to do with JUSTICE I ask.
Thank Goodness there are Public Defenders.
O M G. Who would fork that out given the current outlook? What a mammoth parental quandary (or not) if they’re funding it
Yes it sounded more like an advertisement than an “article” to me….?IMO
Such articles only serve to JUSTIFY the crazy sky high fees.
What has it got to do with JUSTICE I ask.
Thank Goodness there are Public Defenders.
IMO… The law and justice are two separate concepts… and not necessarily positively correlated….
Sadly…
I truly hope you’re right Dotta.IMO
The TRUTH will always win.
Sooner or later.
Evidence and facts don't lie.
And it really does NOT matter if one pays with one's home for a top notch lawyer
or
reasonable fees for not so top notch one.
JMO
Admin closes the thread around 50 pages and starts a new one. Not sure why. But yeah, it was about 3-4 previous threads ago the car was identifiedThanks Whatson, I didn't see the earlier post about the car... could have saved myself some time. 2014 DMAX I think
If I recall correctly, Patton said at the outset that they would be refusing bail. .. and imo PS possibly feels more comfortable in his current little bubble in the world of remand.I suppose, now that he actually is equipped with a barrister, he might apply for bail.
He could not do that before he had a Barrister, because his matter is a Supreme Court matter, and this requires a Barrister to apply to the Supreme Court for bail, ( after getting permission to apply) . HIs local solicitor would not be able to do that. A solicitor is not recognised by the Supreme court to do this,
Very , very , very, very few people charged with murder get bail, and Stephenson has no criteria that fits the possibilities as far as I can see... he is not the sole carer of elderly parents, or the sole providor for small children, or a crucial component of some necessary org... but , Galbally might just float the thing to see if it sinks or stands.
If he did get bail, where would he go? no one is at home at Mum and Dad's, the girlfriends housesitting job has ended...
Tomorrow marks a week (? I think?) since Samantha’s phone was found…. Interesting vicpol have been very quiet since…. No doubt preparing their next moves….
To quote Shakespeare, perhaps:I bet all MSM is sitting as if on "needles and pins"
Not to mention the accused
These are fascinating insights and observations Warshawski…If I recall correctly, Patton said at the outset that they would be refusing bail. .. and imo PS possibly feels more comfortable in his current little bubble in the world of remand.
Re his now announced legal representation - how much do you think he’ll divulge to Galbally, even if he is guilty of the murder, as has been alleged ?
From what I’ve heard, it’s pretty rare for people to confess guilt to their legal reps.
Of course the Legal representation must still be carried out even if the Barrister etc is aware of their clients guilt, but they must be very careful not to deceive the court.
I guess we’re seeing defence examples with both Lynn - who says the deaths were accidental - and then he panicked & made a mistake in covering it up ) and Stein who says someone else committed the murder & he unwittingly found himself with a body in the barrel, again he panicked, and made a mistake in covering it up. IMO, those are the stories they’re relayed to their legal team, otherwise their defence would be guilty of deceiving the court.
Just my thoughts
They might just be staying away from Ballarat out of respect for the Murphy family, perhaps to avoid stirring up any unnecessary press or drama before legal proceedings or so the Murphy’s can grieve without having to run into members of the accused’s family at the shops etc.I have a feeling they're in protective custody in another state
God, I hope not Pykes Creek, it's a favourite of mine.When I moved to Ballarat/ well outside of Ballarat nearly 20 years ago ,we did look at Canadian Forrest and the Suburb, beautiful place however it was too far had only one bus every one hour,I think talking to locals during the Gold Rush there were many Canadian Miners and Families lived and worked . There is a town called Miners Rest, their emblem is a Resting Welsh Miner at the campfire. Soldliers Hill was were the Soldliers were based during Gold Rush.
Wendouree was named after the word of the Indigenious Australians to White Settlers, thought for years to be saying welcome, really means "go Away" or more rudder saying.
Sadly I think Samantha Murphy could be anywhere Ballarat or Outside the Ballarat Zones, there are many State Forrests/ various Wetlands along the rural highways around Ballarat. Even Creeks. There are a lot of old roads, access roads on Farm lands you raised in Ballarat ,you know where they are.
Around the time of her disappearance, we were in a Heatwave and High Bushfire Alert at the time and Bushfires did happen after she vanished. Placed in a high risk fire zone would get rid of her body. There is also a massive Pykes Creek Reservoir out side Ballarat on both sides of the road easy access. Remote hills part of Farming
( IMO, I hate even saying these places where Sam could be. No one deserved to have their lives snuffed. No One deserves to be dump like rubbish.)
I hope Sam Murphy can be found but she can be anywhere.
Depending on whether or not it’s written by someone with an understanding of the AU justice system it may be an error/oversight. I see that it’s AU Yahoo but not sure if that means it’s an actual AU version of the site with local reporters.Implies Galbally was hired by Stephenson and not assigned? I’m hoping so.
“It comes as solicitor Paul Galbally from Melbourne-based law firm Galbally O’Bryan has recently been hired by Patrick Orren Stephenson.”
Major update on Sam Murphy’s phone
I think forensic analysis of a phone can take quite a while, like several weeks.Tomorrow marks a week (? I think?) since Samantha’s phone was found…. Interesting vicpol have been very quiet since…. No doubt preparing their next moves….
I could not disagree more!IMO
The TRUTH will always win.
Sooner or later.
Evidence and facts don't lie.
And it really does NOT matter if one pays with one's home for a top notch lawyer
or
reasonable fees for not so top notch one.
Either someone IS guilty or NOT guilty.
There is nothing relative about this simple truth.
JMO
I could not disagree more!
Guilty people walk free (sometimes rightly) and innocent people go to jail all the time. The legal system in most countries is absolutely pay to play. People who can’t afford to mount a vigorous defense are at a huge disadvantage legally and often times it’s easier, cheaper, and a shorter process to plead down to something even if you didn’t do it.
Plus, evidence and facts are fungible and open to interpretation. Almost everything is in controversy in a court of law short of direct video evidence (and sometimes even then).
Unless you’re talking about karmically, in which case, I hope you’re right!
I’d say we agree that it’s not justiceHmmm....
You paint a grim picture.
What you describe is not Justice at all.
Let's just say
we agree to disagree.
No offence!
PS
I don't believe in Karma.
JMO