Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #9

[Seattle1]

I thought that the aunt dropped her off? I can’t find the link as it’s all a mess of documents but I thought the aunt said she dropped her off at 830 and ss arrived at 845

The aunt did drop her off. But what wasn't clear to me was how long (if at all) was MS at home alone before SS and/or JS arrived.

 

[Seattle1]

But wasn’t dad there in person too?

I believe this was GHI's opinion and not fact. We know that neither JS/SS attended the party so it does not follow that Mr. Sterns Sr. would have attended the party alone.

I think LE wasn't aware that SS was using dad's phone and vehicle. Also, I recall from the earliest discovery that Sterns Sr.'s timeline notes were collected by LE and listed in the Discovery. JMO

 

[AnyNameIWish]

But wasn’t dad there in person too?

Can someone please clarify what they know about dad of SS being there?

I did read that CS, Christopher Sterns, got a separate hotel room after SS and JS were told their condo was deemed a crime scene, they also stayed at a hotel. But why CS? I don't understand his involvement AT ALL.....

Was CS at the birthday party? Was CS in the area of Kissimmee on Sunday night? Was CS in the area on Monday?
When did CS arrive? How?
CS and his wife live 2.5 hours away, right???

 

[Gemmie]

The morning of 2/26 SS is tracked by vehicle sightings only. His cell phone, and his father's, both stay at the condo. Best we know he never had his cell phone accompanying him in the car until 4:45 give or take, that afternoon, when he heads for the insurance office to join JS.

I find it interesting that he has his father's phone when he has his own cell (Samsung S3 Ultra). Why would he need his dad's phone when he has his own? Also, he told LE in the 2/27 interview that he needed his phone so his dad can get ahold of him. I suppose his dad had to use his wife's phone because SS has his? I'm not understanding his need to have his dad's phone.

LE – That’s OK. We understand. Uhm, in the meantime while we’re waiting for all these things to get sorted out, I am going to hang onto your phone, OK? Uhm, I’ll give it back to you when we’re done. OK. Do you have any questions for us?

SS – Uhm… How long are you going to need my phone, that’s…

LE – I’m not sure. I’m waiting for my supervisor to call me.

SS – My dad, it’s just that my dad is using that to get ahold of me and give updates.

LE – They can call Jenn’s phone.

What would prompt JS to leave so early, and simply hang around the pick up area until it was clear MS was not going to show up, without contacting and entering the school?

Seems like they both like to drop off and pick up Maddie way too early, doesn't it?

 

[Trublue21]

I think JS and SS wanted to put as much distance between themselves and the crime scene (condo) as possible. They showed up at grandmas work, on purpose. They called LE from her office, probably to prevent/delay, LE from searching the condo/crime scene. JS appeared cool, calm and collected, but that’s all an act. She was nervous as hell, which is why she showed up at the school 1 hr early. She couldn’t contain her nervous energy, I’m the same way. So sitting around waiting for your world to implode, wouldn’t be easy. They were both (SS/JS) probably bouncing off the walls. My guess is SS told JS everything and she, being the “mom” in the “relationship” helped him to clean up his “mess”. I mean she already knew about his relationship with MS, so what’s one more secret between these 2 incredibly selfish, pathetic individuals. Her knowledge of the inappropriate relationship between SS/MS, could explain why she lied to LE and helped him cover up this crime. The revelation of his crimes, would reveal her own. This is all just my opinion.

 

[Vanilletx]

Did he borrow his dad’s car and dad accidentally left the cell phone in? The Ms went “ missing” and ss couldn’t leave and dad wanted his phone back? So dad drove to Kissimmee and by that point they were kicked out of the house? So they all drove to a hotel?

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

Here are my notes from the documents covered in the Grey Hughes videos posted upthread (of the things I found important).


Jennifer’s Initial Statement to Police - 2/26/2024

At approximately 8:00 AM, she observed Madeline getting ready for school. Stephan took Madeline to school at approximately 8:30 AM and dropped her off near the intersection of Town Loop Blvd and Hunter’s Park Lane. At approximately 4:00 PM, she went to the school in an attempt to pick up Madeline, however, she never came out of the school. She searched the area for Madeline and after not finding her, she went to her mother’s office.

Stephan’s Initial Statement to Police - 2/26/2024

At approximately 8:25 - 8:40 PM, he dropped Madeline off about a block away from her school and watched her walk in the direction of the school. As he was driving away, he saw what appeared to be Madeline searching through her book bag. He then drove to a vape shop (but it was closed) and to his residence. He was home for approximately one hour before he went back to the vape shop to buy vape juice and then returned home and hung out with JS. He then ran errands and returned home at approximately 2:30 PM.

Stephan’s 2nd Statement to Police (1st Digitally Recorded) - 2/27/2024

He currently lives in North Port, FL but comes to Kissimmee occasionally to spend time with Jennifer and Maddie. He arrived at their house on 2/25/2024 at about 8:45 PM. When he arrived, Jennifer was still at work and he directed Madeline to get ready for bed (which consisted of taking a shower). When Jennifer came home, she told Stephan she wanted to sleep in and told him to sleep upstairs with Maddie. Stephan woke up the next morning between 7:00 - 7:15 AM to get an “early start” and grab food at McDonald’s before school. He and Madeline left the house between 7:30 - 7:45 AM and headed towards McDonald’s at 14001 Town Loop Blvd. On the drive there, Madeline slept the whole time and said she didn’t want anything from McDonald’s when they arrived. He then drove past McDonald’s towards the school and dropped Maddie off on the right side of the road, near the community south of the State Road 417 Overpass between 8:20 - 8:40 AM. According to Stephan, Maddie was going through a phase, was embarrassed by his vehicle, and didn’t like to be dropped off at the school in it. Maddie told Stephan she was going to hang out with her friends. Stephan watched in the rearview mirror as Madeline rummaged through her backpack as she walked in the direction of the school. He assumed she was looking for her headphones but later realized she’d left her phone at home. When presented with a map, he advised detectives that he dropped her off at the intersection of Lilac Cove Lane and Town Loop Blvd. He said it was maybe the 5th or 6th time he’d dropped her off and it was common for MS to ask to be dropped off near the school. He said Maddie enjoyed the cold weather and was wearing a hoodie when he dropped her off. When asked if he’d made a U-turn at any point, he said he made a U-turn at the church parking lot to “try to sell her on McDonald’s one more time” because he was still hungry. When asked to show him on the map, he said he was bad at reading maps and said he usually takes John Young Parkway. He explained that he uses landmarks because he doesn’t know street names. When asked if Jennifer was home when he returned home (prior to his trip back out to the vape shop), he said he thought so but then said he wasn’t sure because Jennifer had a blood appointment at some point during the day. He apologized and said “sorry, everything is a blur”. He then said he believed JS was home because she was trying to sleep in as much as she could because she was “messed up” with her work schedule.

Jennifer’s 2nd Statement to the Police (1st Digitally Recorded) - 2/27/2024

She confirmed she had a new job and had not attended Maddie’s party because she was at work. She said Maddie had a “makeshift room” in the living room that she only used to hang out in but never slept in.

[Detectives described this room as a portion of the living room turned into a bedroom with a folding divider between the bedroom space and the kitchen/dining room.]

She said sleeping arrangements depended on everyone’s schedule the next day. Sometimes they all slept in her king bed, other times SS slept upstairs alone and she and Maddie slept in her bed, and other times she would send Maddie and SS to sleep in the upstairs bedroom if she needed a good night’s sleep.

She said she left home at 2:30 to pick up Maddie from school and usually waited an hour in the pick up line. After the bell rang, she noticed Maddie wasn’t one of the first students to come out like she normally was. She left at approximately 4:10 when she realized she was holding up the pickup line. She went to check her mother’s office to see if Maddie had walked there but was told it was still too early for Maddie to have arrived. She then parked on Hunters Park Lane to see if she would see Maddie walking. She then contacted one of Maddie’s friends to see if MS was with her, and her friend said she hadn’t been in their first or second periods that day. She then drove back to the school to confirm with the attendance office, but the school was already closed when she got there. She drove back to her mother’s office and emailed a few of Maddie’s teachers. One of the teacher’s responded to say that Maddie had not made it to his class or to school at all that day. She said she then called 911.

After Stephan heard Maddie hadn’t shown up at school, JS says he met her at her mother’s office, where they waited for LE to arrive. She said she’d brought Maddie’s phone with her when she went to pick her up from school. Her sister and niece looked through Maddie’s phone for JS after she was determined to be missing but didn’t find anything weird. After they left her mother’s office that evening, they looked for Maddie in the Hunters Creek area and returned home at approximately 8:00 - 9:00 PM. When asked if they went back out that night, she said Stephan had gone back out in the middle of the night in her car.

TIMELINE

2/25/2024

2:00 PM - Maddie’s birthday party begins at her grandmother’s house

8:30 PM - Maddie’s aunt drops her off at home after the party

8:45 PM - SS arrives at Jenn and Maddie’s home

10:30 PM - JS arrives home from work

11:00 PM - JS sends Maddie and SS to bed in the upstairs bedroom marked “4”

2/26/2024

7:35 AM - SS is spotted on surveillance at the trash compactor in his father’s Lincoln; he throws a white trash bag filled with items (Maddie’s laptop, backpack, a white Croc) into the compactor

[Maddie is visible in the front passenger seat of the vehicle with her head tilted on her left shoulder, mouth open, and belted into the seat.]

7:50 AM - SS leaves the complex via the back gate [Maddie is visible in the passenger seat in the same position.]

8:00 - 8:15 AM - JS briefly wakes up when Stephan comes into the room to put the dog on a leash and then goes back to sleep

8:19 AM - SS enters the complex via the front gate near N. Hoagland Blvd [Maddie is visible in the passenger seat in the same position.]

8:31 AM - SS leaves the complex via the back gate [Maddie is visible in the passenger seat in the same position.]

9:00 AM - JS gets out of bed

9:30 AM - JS leaves home to go to a doctor’s appointment

9:40 AM - SS is spotted on a surveillance camera in the parking garage of Holiday Inn Club Vacations at 9271 S. John Young Parkway moving Maddie’s body from the passenger seat of the car to the trunk

10:15 AM - JS’s scheduled doctor’s appointment

10:18 AM - SS calls JS to let her know he & MS did not go to McDonald’s

11:00 AM - SS drives to eSmoker Online Vape Shop at 13651 Hunters Oak Drive to buy vape juice and returns home

11:00 - 11:15 AM - JS returns home from her doctor’s appointment

12:45 PM - SS leaves the house to run errands; he stops at Coliseum of Comics and a couple of Target stores

1:12 PM - SS is observed traveling south on Old Hickory Tree Rd

1:20 PM - witness ‘TC’ sees SS at 5670 Hickory Tree Rd standing by a silver sedan with a tire iron

1:56 - 2:05 PM - SS is spotted on surveillance obtained from 4085 Malawi Trail traveling north on Hickory Tree Road

2:17 PM - SS is seen traveling north on Old Hickory Tree Road towards I-192

2:30 PM - JS leaves to pick up Maddie from school

4:10 PM - JS leaves the school when she doesn’t see Maddie right away because she’s holding up the pickup line and drives to her mother’s office

4:35 PM - SS is spotted on surveillance at the trash compactor throwing away the tread of a tire with no walls

6:53 PM - Orange County SO receives a call for service in reference to a missing juvenile

7:48 PM - Orange County responds to Madeline’s grandmother’s office

EVIDENCE

- Bottle of So-low Lotion from Room #4

- Items seen in videos were identified in an area previously described by detectives as Madeline’s room

- video SS secretly recorded of his roommate by placing his phone under her bedroom door

- black tire located in a vacant field at 2175 Old Hickory Tree Rd

- 2022 Nissan sedan towed from TownePlace Suites at Flamingo Crossings, 2/28/2024 at 8:30 PM

- right white Croc, size 5-7, discovered in the trash [matched the left white Croc, size 5-7, located inside Maddie’s home]

- 2010 Lincoln MKZ, 2/28/2024

- Stephan’s cell phone (black Samsung), 2/28/2024

SEARCH WARRANTS

- Maddie’s Residence, 2/27/2024 [executed 2/28/2024 & 2/29/2024]

- Meta, 2/28/2024 [Meta denied the warrant for Maddie’s Instagram account on 3/1/2024]

- 2022 Nissan Sentra [executed 3/1/2024]

- SS’s Google Search history, 3/1/2024 [transferred to hard drive 3/4/2024]

- Infotainment system from the 2010 Lincoln MKZ, 2/28/2024

- Infotainment system from the 2022 Nissan Sentra, 2/29/2024

- SiriusXM Account, 2/29/2024


WITNESS INTERVIEWS

Neighbor Couple, 2/28/2024

- they’ve spent their winters and springs at the complex for the last 18 years

- Maddie’s grandfather resided with Maddie and JS for many years and helped raise Maddie

- Maddie’s grandfather moved out a few years ago and JS “married” SS

- they last saw Maddie on Saturday or Sunday walking the dog

MA, 2/29/2024

- contacted Orange County Sheriff’s Office after seeing the news release

- met SS while working with him at Disney and they were intimate between December 2022 - May 2023

- SS told her that he was separated from JS but still slept at her house, specifically in the bed with Maddie; he explained this by saying he needed to cuddle with Maddie so she could fall asleep

- SS one day revealed to her that he’d woken up in the bed with Maddie with an erection; MA felt his comments were inappropriate and stopped talking to him soon after

Maddie’s Best Friend - 2/27/2024

- she’s known Maddie since the 4th grade

- MS told her she didn’t get along with her mom

- she heard from a mutual friend that JS told Maddie she was going to kick her out of the house and disown her when she turned 18 or 19

- she talks to Maddie every day on the phone and Maddie texts her each morning when she wakes up; she thought it was odd when Maddie didn’t text her the morning of 2/26/2024 or answer when she tried to call

- MS has only briefly mentioned her biological father but is always on the phone with SS, texting or talking, usually in the afternoon or at night

- SS recently moved out but still visits JS and Maddie often

- JS or Maddie’s grandparents usually bring Maddie to school; she doesn’t recall SS ever bringing her

- there are roommates who also live with Maddie and JS, but she believes they are close to Maddie’s family and don’t have enough money to live on their own

- neither JS nor SS were at Maddie’s birthday party

- MS commonly receives money from JS for her birthday, but Maddie was upset this year because her mom didn’t give her any

- MS doesn’t miss school often but is sick a lot

- MS talks to her dad and sister who live in Washington DC and she believes Maddie is close with her sister

- MS talks to different people through Roblox; she’s unaware if Maddie has ever met up with any strangers she’s spoken to

- MS has never said anything about sending or receiving inappropriate photos

- MS has a YouTube Shorts account where she posts videos of herself dancing with her face covered; Maddie plans to show her face once she reaches 200 subscribers

- MS has a crush on a schoolmate but said he didn’t like her and ignored her text messages

- MS takes medicine for ADHD and possibly bipolar disorder; she describes Maddie as impulsive, having mood swings and symptoms of bipolar disorder

- MS last took her medication on 2/14/2024 and would tell everyone about not taking it; she didn’t like taking her medicine because she had more energy when she didn’t take it

- JS called her on the evening of 2/26/2024 to ask if Maddie was with her; JS told her she’d last seen Maddie at 8:45 that morning when she dropped her off at the church near the school; the friend said this was unusual because Maddie was typically dropped off in the car line

7th Grade School Counselor - 2/29/2024

- met Maddie at the beginning of the school year

- she was told MS has ADHD and has a hard time focusing; Maddie also has anxiety and panic attacks

- she conducts check-ins with MS at school and has met with Maddie about six times since the start of the school year

- MS typically comes to see her when she’s feeling panicked or overwhelmed; Maddie has also said she’s dealing with things at home including fighting with her mom; she said JS would get upset because Maddie is forgetful or doesn’t clean up like she’s expected to

- at their monthly check-in in December, January, and February, Maddie reported that things were improving at home and were better at school

- MS reported that her mom’s boyfriend lived with them and she didn’t like him because he was weird; when Maddie was pressed about why she thinks he’s weird, she said it was because he ate all their food, hangs out in the living room, and makes her feel uncomfortable; MS reported in December that he was moving out and that made her happy

- JS told her that Maddie was seeing a therapist weekly

- Maddie’s grades appeared to be stable and seemed to be improving since December

- her last check-in was on 2/6/2024 and Maddie said she was really happy and things were good at school and with mom

2nd Period PE Teacher - 2/29/2024

- MS always seemed very anxious and anytime she needed to ask her something or wanted something, she brought a buddy with her

- MS seemed shy around authority figures but not everybody

- occasionally, Maddie’s friends would tell her that MS needed to go to the counselor and she’d go with her friends [she didn’t know why Maddie needed to see the counselor]

- she didn’t think it was normal for Maddie to want to go away on her own because she needed someone with her

1st Period Intensive Reading Teacher - 2/29/2024

- JS didn’t come to open house and they had never met

- Maddie had a D in her class every quarter; MS would work in class but wasn’t able to follow things through to completion

7th Period English Teacher - 2/29/2024
- he described Maddie as “quieter”; she sometimes does her work but has a lot of “sleepy days” where she comes in and puts her head down and does nothing

- MS didn’t seem to have as many sleepy days as she did at the beginning of the school year

- he saw that MS was “fatigued” which he believes may have been a sign of depression, but he didn’t see anything more overt

- Maddie’s grades were rough but then she brought them up; she went through phases where she wouldn’t turn anything in

- MS seemed normal but quiet and tired

Friend of Maddie - 2/29/2024

- has known MS since the 4th grade

- Maddie and her mom would frequently fight and she describes JS as bipolar

- describes MS as bipolar in her behavior and said she was taking an unknown medication for ADHD

- she describes MS as nice, funny, and caring on her medication but “snappy” when she didn’t take it

- she didn’t notice MS going through a depressive phase but MS said she was going through one earlier in the year

- Maddie was upset at her birthday party because she advertised it well but not many people showed up or brought presents

- MS had two previous boyfriends; one who was expelled for breaking another child’s elbow; she described both relationships “over distance” and “a lot of texting”

- she’s not allowed to have social media but showed the investigator Maddie’s YouTube and Discord accounts

- she emphasized that MS’s mention of living in the woods was only if “World War 3” happened

- she never saw any bruises on Maddie but noted that MS occasionally came to school wearing red makeup that made it look like she’d been crying

- she went to Maddie’s house every week but has never stayed the night because of her parent’s rules

- she’s only met SS once even though he’s been with JS for a long time

- SS recently moved out but she doesn’t know why; when she asked MS, she just ignored her question

- Maddie has sent her two screenshots of SS while they were FaceTiming in the past, but she wasn’t able to locate the photos for investigators

- MS typically got her period two days before she did but last month MS got hers “a week or two” after she did; they didn’t have a conversation about it

- she said JS was never freaking out and thought it was weird that she initially said she dropped MS off at school when SS did

- she was shocked to hear the news about SS’s arrest

ETA: I took screenshots of all of this but can’t upload them all. If you want to see the screenshot for a specific bit of information, just let me know and I’ll upload that image.

Learning that Maddie’s grandparents or mom usually dropped her off to school definitely makes me agree that SS premeditated her horrific murder.

Maddie’s diagnosis of bipolar disorder does make me concerned that her symptoms of child sexual abuse, the moodiness, somnolence, inability to focus and lack of motivation to complete her school work were misidentified and missed. If true it is very possible that she never received the treatment, care and protection that could have been offered by her healthcare the and social and child protective services.

It is bad enough that SS was even in their home but then he has the audacity to hang out in the living room, which he knew was her makeshift bedroom. Again, why did SS have an actual bedroom whereas MS, a growing adolescent with her needs for privacy and space, didn’t? It was her mother’s house and she had more rights to be there than him.

Why did JS tell Maddie’s friends she dropped Maddie off that morning? Why also lie to them? It seems like she didn’t want people to know that SS dropped Maddie off or at least that he dropped Maddie off alone. Why? She seems to trust him right? She invited him back to her home so why was making this information known publicly or to Maddie’s friends a concern for her? Especially when the priority should have been looking for her daughter, not covering for someone.

 

[photographer4]

Can someone please clarify what they know about dad of SS being there?

I did read that CS, Christopher Sterns, got a separate hotel room after SS and JS were told their condo was deemed a crime scene, they also stayed at a hotel. But why CS? I don't understand his involvement AT ALL.....

Was CS at the birthday party? Was CS in the area of Kissimmee on Sunday night? Was CS in the area on Monday?
When did CS arrive? How?
CS and his wife live 2.5 hours away, right???

Well why did CS also visit his son in jail??

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

SS volunteering to walk the dog and then leaving before JS did before her doc appointment gives me the impression he was trying to prevent JS from seeing Maddie in his vehicle.

Him calling at 10:18 just to pointlessly mention there was no McDonald’s trip makes me wonder if he used that odd excuse to call to see if anyone from Maddie’s school tried to contact yet about her daughter’s absence. He, like many others, probably wasn’t aware that the school didn’t contact parents/guardians about their children’s absence until the end of the day.

Still, I don’t understand why Maddie had to come back home if JS would be too tired to take her to school the next day and worse, she kicked MS out of her room and told her to sleep with SS instead. Why couldn’t Maddie just continue staying with her grandparents? I think based on how Maddie seemed to be improving overall, academically, emotionally and physically since SS has been gone JS must have thought to herself that SS was most likely the problem? I mean even she and Maddie were getting along better. I wouldn’t be surprised if JS noticed a behavior change in Maddie almost immediately upon returning home Sunday night so why disrupt and put SS back in her environment? If JS wasn’t going to kick SS out, which she should have done, the least she could have done is let MS stay with her parents or let them take her to school. MOO

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

I wonder why JS went so early? Has that been discussed anywhere? I'm not remembering if it was. I know I wouldn't want to just be sitting there waiting that long, especially if I was already "TIRED".

I wonder how big the school is and if it is really competitive because parents picking up their kids have to get their vehicles in a single file line?

That could make the wait to get your children in the car really long and maybe the earlier you get their the further up in line you are? For those who hate waiting in line and just want or need to get their kids and go coming early could be beneficial and the less people you have in front of you the less likely other families or their kids could end up holding you or the line up for whatever reason comes up.

MOO and biased because this was how my little cousin’s pick-up routine was at her school.

 

[Vanilletx]

Sure. I could believe that she waited early if there is evidence of her being there early most days.

If.

 

[Simply Southern]

I find it interesting that he has his father's phone when he has his own cell (Samsung S3 Ultra). Why would he need his dad's phone when he has his own? Also, he told LE in the 2/27 interview that he needed his phone so his dad can get ahold of him. I suppose his dad had to use his wife's phone because SS has his? I'm not understanding his need to have his dad's phone.

LE – That’s OK. We understand. Uhm, in the meantime while we’re waiting for all these things to get sorted out, I am going to hang onto your phone, OK? Uhm, I’ll give it back to you when we’re done. OK. Do you have any questions for us?

SS – Uhm… How long are you going to need my phone, that’s…

LE – I’m not sure. I’m waiting for my supervisor to call me.

SS – My dad, it’s just that my dad is using that to get ahold of me and give updates.

LE – They can call Jenn’s phone.

Seems like they both like to drop off and pick up Maddie way too early, doesn't it?

MOO... CS is the account holder for the cell phone. I assume a family/multiple plan, as SS is not employed. CS is the owner of the vehicle SS drove.

Moo..the search warrant was obtained for cell phone account holder and owner of the vehicle. I assume the father is funding/supporting his unemployed son.

I do not believe SSs father is involved.
Moo..

 

[kae27]

MOO... CS is the account holder for the cell phone. I assume a family/multiple plan, as SS is not employed. CS is the owner of the vehicle SS drove.

Moo..the search warrant was obtained for cell phone account holder and owner of the vehicle. I assume the father is funding/supporting his unemployed son.

I do not believe SSs father is involved.
Moo..

I don't believe he's involved either, but it is interesting that he came up (down? I don't know Florida) immediately and was in a hotel room at the same place as SS/JS. Of course, it might just be that they needed him to pay for the rooms.

 

[Simply Southern]

I don't believe he's involved either, but it is interesting that he came up (down? I don't know Florida) immediately and was in a hotel room at the same place as SS/JS. Of course, it might just be that they needed him to pay for the rooms.

I think the phone tracked to the hotel or SS had a credit card issued under his father's name he used. Search warrants will be issued in the account holder/owners name.

Clearly, LE knows SS was using the phone, it was in his possession. SS turned the phone over to police. SS was seen on video driving the car owned by his father. JS and SS discussed the vehicle in several conversations with LE.

ETA... The podcasters are reading from reports, search warrant and supporting documents. These are being identified by the owner information listed on the search warrant. I'm not sure the podcasters are taking a timeout to clarify, the phone and car were clearly in possession and being used by SS. I think it would be much easier to understand reading the documents myself.
Moo...

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I think JS and SS wanted to put as much distance between themselves and the crime scene (condo) as possible. They showed up at grandmas work, on purpose. They called LE from her office, probably to prevent/delay, LE from searching the condo/crime scene. JS appeared cool, calm and collected, but that’s all an act. She was nervous as hell, which is why she showed up at the school 1 hr early. She couldn’t contain her nervous energy, I’m the same way. So sitting around waiting for your world to implode, wouldn’t be easy. They were both (SS/JS) probably bouncing off the walls. My guess is SS told JS everything and she, being the “mom” in the “relationship” helped him to clean up his “mess”. I mean she already knew about his relationship with MS, so what’s one more secret between these 2 incredibly selfish, pathetic individuals. Her knowledge of the inappropriate relationship between SS/MS, could explain why she lied to LE and helped him cover up this crime. The revelation of his crimes, would reveal her own. This is all just my opinion.

They clearly didn't think it would blow up like it did,and that LE would go to their apt,and search their electronic devices. It was supposed to be she vanished after " We took her took her to school, We dropped her off close to the school" "and yeah that's it". MOO

 

[Seattle1]

Can someone please clarify what they know about dad of SS being there?

I did read that CS, Christopher Sterns, got a separate hotel room after SS and JS were told their condo was deemed a crime scene, they also stayed at a hotel. But why CS? I don't understand his involvement AT ALL.....

Was CS at the birthday party? Was CS in the area of Kissimmee on Sunday night? Was CS in the area on Monday?
When did CS arrive? How?
CS and his wife live 2.5 hours away, right???

I've not read or listened yet to any of the docs that report Mr. Sterns Sr. (CS) in the area and/or staying at the same hotel. But I do recall from the docs that JS/SS stayed at a hotel located about 30 mins from the Soto residence after LE took custody of the condo to execute a search warrant. (IMO, I got the feeling that LE was surprised that JS would choose to stay a distance away from home when her missing child could surface at anytime). As observers, we now know that MS showing up at home was never going to happen.

^^That said, I think it makes perfect sense that Mr. Sterns Sr. (CS) would have traveled to Kissimmee sometime (post Monday) after learning that his adult son, allegedly dropped MS off at school, and that she never made it to classes, and was in fact missing. I think we need to remember this had been longtime relationship where SS had been in MS's life for more than half of her life, her friends reported she loved him, and they were close. This is likely the image SS's parents had too.

I think traveling to be with JS/SS at what for most would be an excruciating time would be the gesture of any able parent/grandparent to support their adult child/family.

Unfortunately, I'm sorry to say that I'm still thrown off when assessing what's truly a normal act of human compassion, because JS never did fit what one expects from a mother whose only child is missing!

On the other hand, SS immediately started "acting" the part. I don't doubt this mimicking behavior by SS has been used for most of his life to control his father (or anybody known to provide for his needs). MOO

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

I find it interesting that he has his father's phone when he has his own cell (Samsung S3 Ultra). Why would he need his dad's phone when he has his own? Also, he told LE in the 2/27 interview that he needed his phone so his dad can get ahold of him. I suppose his dad had to use his wife's phone because SS has his? I'm not understanding his need to have his dad's phone.

LE – That’s OK. We understand. Uhm, in the meantime while we’re waiting for all these things to get sorted out, I am going to hang onto your phone, OK? Uhm, I’ll give it back to you when we’re done. OK. Do you have any questions for us?

SS – Uhm… How long are you going to need my phone, that’s…

LE – I’m not sure. I’m waiting for my supervisor to call me.

SS – My dad, it’s just that my dad is using that to get ahold of me and give updates.

LE – They can call Jenn’s phone.

Seems like they both like to drop off and pick up Maddie way too early, doesn't it?

SS having his father’s phone and car IMO seems possibly an element of premeditation? Of what is not clear. MOO

 

[Seattle1]

I think it would be much easier understand reading the documents myself.

^^rsbm

Hear, hear!

 

[photographer4]

Can someone please clarify what they know about dad of SS being there?

I did read that CS, Christopher Sterns, got a separate hotel room after SS and JS were told their condo was deemed a crime scene, they also stayed at a hotel. But why CS? I don't understand his involvement AT ALL.....

Was CS at the birthday party? Was CS in the area of Kissimmee on Sunday night? Was CS in the area on Monday?
When did CS arrive? How?
CS and his wife live 2.5 hours away, right???

We know CS spoke with police but I wondered why not to his mother?

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Learning that Maddie’s grandparents or mom usually dropped her off to school definitely makes me agree that SS premeditated her horrific murder.

Maddie’s diagnosis of bipolar disorder does make me concerned that her symptoms of child sexual abuse, the moodiness, somnolence, inability to focus and lack of motivation to complete her school work were misidentified and missed. If true it is very possible that she never received the treatment, care and protection that could have been offered by her healthcare the and social and child protective services.

It is bad enough that SS was even in their home but then he has the audacity to hang out in the living room, which he knew was her makeshift bedroom. Again, why did SS have an actual bedroom whereas MS, a growing adolescent with her needs for privacy and space, didn’t? It was her mother’s house and she had more rights to be there than him.

Why did JS tell Maddie’s friends she dropped Maddie off that morning? Why also lie to them? It seems like she didn’t want people to know that SS dropped Maddie off or at least that he dropped Maddie off alone. Why? She seems to trust him right? She invited him back to her home so why was making this information known publicly or to Maddie’s friends a concern for her? Especially when the priority should have been looking for her daughter, not covering for someone.

Yes!^^^….. and add to that JS had apparently requested SS to get MS to school that morning. So what role does that mean for her?

Still want to know exactly when that request was made to have SS take MS to school, and by whom. I hope cell, text, and other electronic devices CCTV, video, etc. will help clarify that. Since it is probably IMO a fool’s errand to believe much of what has been said by them.

IMO SS also having his father’s car and phone that day (instead of the ‘hoopty / hooptie’…. whichever vehicle that is) …. also seems to be another possible element of premeditation? MOO