Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 6 murders, July 2023 #14

[x_files]

Wait - ! RH used the handle Andy Roberts for several accounts! Messing with LE? Or coincidence? View attachment 512912

Great catch! He did this on purpose, thought he was so clever.

 

[eishish]

Ever wonder if some of his web searches are just a way to check if photos HE took leaked out of a private group and are available to be found on the internet?

And with one or more sw he may have been id'd as do not answer, danger. Both by phone #, emails

 

[eishish]

Absolutely and making that account on the suspected anniversary of her disappearance- just despicable and using the two names of the men who found her- wow!

The andy roberts cld not figure...ugh, that is awful. Sinister

 

[willy wagtail]

Where is the Tomahawk reference coming from? tia

Email address

 

[Passeridae]

The swinger affidavit has been thoroughly vetted.

It is credible.

I'm looking forward to trial when we will probably learn the details only LE knows, such as the identity of the narc cop.

MOO

It's this the woman who claims that she went to a sex party with Karen Vergata at RH's home? Who said she saw Karen looking at her from an upstairs window in a one-story house somehow? I wasn't aware it had been vetted by anyone except John Ray.

 

[Ruminations]

It's this the woman who claims that she went to a sex party with Karen Vergata at RH's home? Who said she saw Karen looking at her from an upstairs window in a one-story house somehow? I wasn't aware it had been vetted by anyone except John Ray.

<modsnip: No link to support information stated as fact>

Goodness, if there were even one fact off, don't you think the felonious Macedonio would be saying so? Instead he just says things like "John Ray wants attention."

I don't care if he wants attention or not. I want information, and I know I will get accurate information from John Ray.

MOO

 

[Diddian]

Where is the Tomahawk reference coming from? tia

Pages 17 and 18 of the Heuermann Bail Affidavit, linked to in this report under the heading, "Additional Burner Phones and Online Account Activity Linked to Defendant Heuermann:"

Read Rex Heuermann's redacted and denied bail application due to ‘extreme depravity'

A Long Island architect was charged Friday with murder in the deaths of three of the 11 victims in a long-unsolved string of killings known as the Gilgo Beach murders after detectives pursuing a new lead say they matched DNA from a pizza he ate to genetic material found on the women’s remains...

www.nbcnewyork.com

 

[Inthedetails]

Email address

Pages 17 and 18 of the Heuermann Bail Affidavit, linked to in this report under the heading, "Additional Burner Phones and Online Account Activity Linked to Defendant Heuermann:"

Read Rex Heuermann's redacted and denied bail application due to ‘extreme depravity'

A Long Island architect was charged Friday with murder in the deaths of three of the 11 victims in a long-unsolved string of killings known as the Gilgo Beach murders after detectives pursuing a new lead say they matched DNA from a pizza he ate to genetic material found on the women’s remains...

www.nbcnewyork.com

Thanks for the info about where Tomahawk reference comes from.

Tomahawk, for those who don't know, is a smallish chopping tool like a axe that is also used as a weapon. If you "tomahawk" someone, you hit them on the head (or I suppose hit them anywhere, but I think of it as a head strike). There are other definitions as well, like place names in North America and a missile name. Someone mentioned upthread it is a cut of meat, but I've never heard that reference myself. It's a word from Native American tribes on eastern part of North America and can be used for war or peace, but seems like most people associate it with weapon/war. I would expect RH to know the meaning.

jmo

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Moo, the task force is first and at time only one of its kind. Groundbreaking as why rex is in custody now. A total win for li, ny

I don't know if you really meant to say that "the task force is first at the time only one of its kind". There have been countless LE task forces , especially when multiple jurisdictions are involved, or one agency is not able to conduct a major investigation using only its own resources and manpower. Also not new, the contacting of SWs both before and after and an arrest to see what information they may have to help with the investigation.

 

[Izzylizzy]

On page 18 of the initial Bail Application is mention of thawk080672@… opened under fictitious name of Thomas Hawk. (Snipped below)

View attachment 515157

Maybe the case caught RH's attention?
Thomas and Jackie Hawks were never found.

Murders of Thomas and Jackie Hawks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In the media​

• This case was investigated on TV by Aphrodite Jones in her Investigation Discovery documentary TV series True Crime with Aphrodite Jones (Season 1, Episode 9) and was explored on the same network on two other programs: Wicked Attraction (episode "Calm Before the Storm") and Deadly Sins (episode "I'd Kill For A Sex Change").
• This case is referred to in a segment of the "Caffeine-Induced Aneurysm" episode of Robot Chicken.
• This case was investigated on TV on Oxygen on the TV show Snapped: Killer Couples, a spin-off of Snapped.
• The 48 Hours episode "Dark Voyage" covers this crime.
• The Demons in the City of Angels episode Child Actor Killer covers the case.
• This case is also covered in the podcast "Killafornia Dreaming: True Crime Tales from the Golden State; Episode 14, The Tale of Lost at Sea" - Google Play Podcasts.
• This case is briefly mentioned in the Podcast "Raised by TV" hosted by comedians Lauren Lapkus and Jon Gabrus in the episode "Mt. Crushmore."
• This case is covered on the TV show Crime Watch Daily with Chris Hansen, Season 2, Episode 165, "The Final Voyage."
• This case is mentioned in the podcast "My Favorite Murder" in Episode 169, "This Old Sandwich."
• This case was investigated on ABC 20/20 episode "Overboard."
• The case was the subject of an episode of HLN's How it Really Happened, "The Yacht Murder Mystery: Unspeakable Cruelty" (season 7, episode 5).
• The case was focused on in The Real Murders of Orange County episode "Love Lost At Sea," which aired on Oxygen 11/15/2020.

Further reading​

Murders of Thomas and Jackie Hawks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Izzylizzy]

When did he say he'd be no problem when jailed? Just curious. Because it would be a weird thing for him to say. It's almost incriminating. He's already been corresponding with a convicted SK who's encouraging him to come clean, which certainly doesn't look too good for RH, jmo. nvm, found it:

Suspected Gilgo Beach killer Rex Heuermann is “very comfortable” in jail and promised officers that he would be “extremely compliant” – but still has not received any visitors, the Suffolk County sheriff said.

Gilgo Beach serial killing suspect Rex Heuermann ‘very comfortable,’ ‘compliant’ in jail: sheriff

Heuermann, 59, was arrested on multiple murder charges last week.

nypost.com

I mean he's in prison. Like what else does he think he's going to be but compliant??

A few times when viewing RH from when he was arrested I thought of innocent me suddenly being surrounded by a few agents and being told I'm being arrested for killing three men.
Would I remain calm throughout and the next day while appearing before a judge if I were innocent?
Hell no.
I'd be freaking then and now beyond comprehension at the top of my lungs.
I wouldn't give a *advertiser censored* how my lawyer told me to act.
This calm and acceptable behavior from the get-go by RH for being accused of the most evil heinous crimes for almost a year now tells me he may have been surprised when he finally got arrested but knows damn well that all the evidence being used against him is his to own.

 

[Kudzu]

On page 18 of the initial Bail Application is mention of thawk080672@… opened under fictitious name of Thomas Hawk. (Snipped below)

View attachment 515157

Just musing here… Using a similar “Andy Roberts” naming convention, wonder if the “Hawk” came from his taunting of our WS member Hawkshaw who did a prolific amount of LISK work earlier in the WS case history. I think Hawkshaw was retired LE? Was interviewed about the case, maybe?

 

[whiterhino]

Thanks for the info about where Tomahawk reference comes from.

Tomahawk, for those who don't know, is a smallish chopping tool like a axe that is also used as a weapon. If you "tomahawk" someone, you hit them on the head (or I suppose hit them anywhere, but I think of it as a head strike). There are other definitions as well, like place names in North America and a missile name. Someone mentioned upthread it is a cut of meat, but I've never heard that reference myself. It's a word from Native American tribes on eastern part of North America and can be used for war or peace, but seems like most people associate it with weapon/war. I would expect RH to know the meaning.

jmo

FWIW A Tomahawk is like a throwing axe. RBBM I'd never heard that term for a cut of meat but it's a type of steak cut from ribeye: Tomahawk Steak Guide: What Is It, Where to Get It, How to Cook It

 

[Izzylizzy]

Just musing here… Using a similar “Andy Roberts” naming convention, wonder if the “Hawk” came from his taunting of our WS member Hawkshaw who did a prolific amount of LISK work earlier in the WS case history. I think Hawkshaw was retired LE? Was interviewed about the case, maybe?

RH was posting here taunting member Hawkshaw?

 

[Ruminations]

Just musing here… Using a similar “Andy Roberts” naming convention, wonder if the “Hawk” came from his taunting of our WS member Hawkshaw who did a prolific amount of LISK work earlier in the WS case history. I think Hawkshaw was retired LE? Was interviewed about the case, maybe?

That popped into my head, too.

I would think he was too busy planning, stalking, looking for criminal media, checking up on victims's families, etc. to insert himself in this kind of community. But...it does seem like it could have been him calling into the Killing Season, so, who knows.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

Ever wonder if some of his web searches are just a way to check if photos HE took leaked out of a private group and are available to be found on the internet?

It's not unlikely, IMO. According to everything I learned from the Duggar case, the way child exploitation materials are exchanged is a person has to give media to get media. Rex was looking for such materials, and also for materials depicting crimes against adults. I would imagine similar rules would exist.

He is already accused of doing some of the very things he seemed to enjoy searching for, so...

MOO

 

[CuriousCricket]

A few times when viewing RH from when he was arrested I thought of innocent me suddenly being surrounded by a few agents and being told I'm being arrested for killing three men.
Would I remain calm throughout and the next day while appearing before a judge if I were innocent?
Hell no.
I'd be freaking then and now beyond comprehension at the top of my lungs.
I wouldn't give a *advertiser censored* how my lawyer told me to act.
This calm and acceptable behavior from the get-go by RH for being accused of the most evil heinous crimes for almost a year now tells me he may have been surprised when he finally got arrested but knows damn well that all the evidence being used against him is his to own.

RH is a huge man. Any wrong move as he was being arrested and he might have been shot, perhaps killed. I've always thought his reassurance to the agents that he'd be no trouble was for his own protection. He didn't want them nervous and trigger happy. I have considered that he had thought many times about how to behave IF the time ever came.

 

[Ruminations]

Maybe the case caught RH's attention?
Thomas and Jackie Hawks were never found.

Murders of Thomas and Jackie Hawks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In the media​

• This case was investigated on TV by Aphrodite Jones in her Investigation Discovery documentary TV series True Crime with Aphrodite Jones (Season 1, Episode 9) and was explored on the same network on two other programs: Wicked Attraction (episode "Calm Before the Storm") and Deadly Sins (episode "I'd Kill For A Sex Change").
• This case is referred to in a segment of the "Caffeine-Induced Aneurysm" episode of Robot Chicken.
• This case was investigated on TV on Oxygen on the TV show Snapped: Killer Couples, a spin-off of Snapped.
• The 48 Hours episode "Dark Voyage" covers this crime.
• The Demons in the City of Angels episode Child Actor Killer covers the case.
• This case is also covered in the podcast "Killafornia Dreaming: True Crime Tales from the Golden State; Episode 14, The Tale of Lost at Sea" - Google Play Podcasts.
• This case is briefly mentioned in the Podcast "Raised by TV" hosted by comedians Lauren Lapkus and Jon Gabrus in the episode "Mt. Crushmore."
• This case is covered on the TV show Crime Watch Daily with Chris Hansen, Season 2, Episode 165, "The Final Voyage."
• This case is mentioned in the podcast "My Favorite Murder" in Episode 169, "This Old Sandwich."
• This case was investigated on ABC 20/20 episode "Overboard."
• The case was the subject of an episode of HLN's How it Really Happened, "The Yacht Murder Mystery: Unspeakable Cruelty" (season 7, episode 5).
• The case was focused on in The Real Murders of Orange County episode "Love Lost At Sea," which aired on Oxygen 11/15/2020.

Further reading​

Murders of Thomas and Jackie Hawks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That's weird. Really weird. Although I don't see Rex naming himself after the murder victim.

MOO

 

[Just K]

Am I the only one who never noticed that sturdy frame that could be built with 6x6's?

Pic on the right.

It's very disturbing, after the most recent charge/bail documents.

Family of suspected serial killer reveals chaotic mess inside accused murderer's ramshackle home

Photographs of a rundown Massapequa Park home show how police left it after spending nearly two weeks removing evidence in the cold case Gilgo Beach murders.

www.foxnews.com

If you scroll down the text, you can find the whole picture, and the eerie frame in the backyard is not blocked by the "play" button.

MOO

I’ve thought of that from the first time I laid eyes on it. It seems too large to fit into the basement. I thought maybe at one time it was a swingset. But yes, it is the right size for big posts. I can’t see it being moved easily though.

 

[dotr]

'Jul 3, 2024 #gilgobeach #rexheuermann #vargassreports
Suffolk County officials revealed to NewsNation that jail investigators have obtained 15 reports from sex workers who may have encountered the alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann. Retired NYPD Sgt. Joseph Giacalone joins NewsNation's Laura Ingle to discuss.'