LadyL
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yep I'm Canadian, don't like Trump and yet ... I cried
this should never happen & I'm glad he's ok
US - Shots fired at Donald Trump rally in Pennsylvania as former president is seen with blood across his face, 13 July 2024
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yep I'm Canadian, don't like Trump and yet ... I cried
this should never happen & I'm glad he's ok
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Wow this is absolutely insane. I'm so glad Trump is okay, but it's so sad that an innocent person attending the rally got killed because somebody disagrees with/doesn't like Trump and his opinions. It's terrifying to think that this sort of thing could happen and I'm just curious how it even did happen with surely so much security around at an event like that? Hopefully in the future it'll be considered more and further steps will be taken to ensure everyone's safety, if that bullet had gone somewhere else it could have killed him... so scary.
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Rep. Daniel Meuser, who witnessed rally shooting from front row, calls it a "bloody scene"
From CNN’s Rebekah Riess
Rep. Daniel Meuser of Pennsylvania told CNN he was sitting in the front row of Donald Trump’s rally with Pennsylvania Senate candidate Dave McCormick and Rep. Mike Kelly when chaos ensued.
“Everybody started, certainly, screaming, asking for a medic, and honestly, it was a bloody scene,” Meuser said.
Meuser said it started out like a regular rally and “next thing you know … there was rapid fire,” he said. “It was pretty obvious, after the second or third gunshot, what was happening.”
Meuser added that “a lot of people were very panicked” but “they settled down after a little while, particularly when President Trump, honestly, stood up and gave thumbs-up.”
The congressman also made a plea for civility going forward, saying, “We’ve really got to remove the hostility. I think everybody agrees — we need to cool things down.”
Rep. Daniel Meuser, who witnessed rally shooting from front row, calls it a "bloody scene"
From CNN’s Rebekah Riess
Rep. Daniel Meuser of Pennsylvania told CNN he was sitting in the front row of Donald Trump’s rally with Pennsylvania Senate candidate Dave McCormick and Rep. Mike Kelly when chaos ensued.
“Everybody started, certainly, screaming, asking for a medic, and honestly, it was a bloody scene,” Meuser said.
Meuser said it started out like a regular rally and “next thing you know … there was rapid fire,” he said. “It was pretty obvious, after the second or third gunshot, what was happening.”
Meuser added that “a lot of people were very panicked” but “they settled down after a little while, particularly when President Trump, honestly, stood up and gave thumbs-up.”
The congressman also made a plea for civility going forward, saying, “We’ve really got to remove the hostility. I think everybody agrees — we need to cool things down.”
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Video appears to show a rifle and body near to Trump rally shooting
Two people have died after a gunman opened fired at a Donald Trump rally in Pennsylvania - with the former president also suffering a bullet wound to his ear.
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I was thinking the same.
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“Very shocking … a lot of people just thought it was fireworks going off, I knew immediately it was gunfire,” Meyn said.
Meyn, a surgeon from Grove City, Pennsylvania, told CNN he helped carry the man out of the bleachers.
“I was at the far right of the podium, where the people sit in the front. I was filming him (Trump) speaking on my phone. Just as I was panning back, I heard seven gunshots in rapid successions, in under two or three seconds,” Meyn said.
Meyn said he looked back in the direction the gunshots had come from. “I saw a man in the bleachers was hit directly in the head and died instantly. … There was a woman who was hit in the hand and forearm, a noncritical wound.”
He said he went over to see if he could render any aid, but another doctor was already helping the woman who’d been shot.
“I helped carry the body of the man out of the stands. They took the body to the tent behind the bleachers,” Meyn added.
CNN reached Meyn as he was waiting to give a witness statement to the FBI. “They want the data off my phone,” he said. “This is the first Trump rally I’ve been to. … You don’t anticipate this stuff to go on, it’s pure insanity.”
Quoting my own post in case someone else is interested in the location/layout. USA Today has some of the info.
Where was Trump rally? Butler County, PA appearance was site of shooting Saturday
A rally in Butler County, Pennsylvania, where Trump enjoys strong support, ended with the candidate rushed off stage after shots were fired Saturday.www.usatoday.com
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Is there a circle around where the suspect was?
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Does anyone know where the rally goers who were shot were seated or standing relative to Trump?
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Pray for our country
Now more then ever!
We are not free here at this place and time.
Prayers for Donald Trump, the people wounded and the family for the man who died.
We are not free here at this place and time.
Prayers for Donald Trump, the people wounded and the family for the man who died.
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I think I need to give myself a little break.
I’m really feeling the impact of how Trump was a few inches away from getting killed. He is a person no matter what.
CNN is saying that the Republican Convention will go on as scheduled Monday, which I confess is a surprise to me. I would assume that two days is not enough time for the Secret Service to review the events of today and to quadruple their security by then.
I imagine by tomorrow we will know more about the assassin and maybe the reason behind his actions.
Prayers for the families of today’s deceased and wounded.
I’m really feeling the impact of how Trump was a few inches away from getting killed. He is a person no matter what.
CNN is saying that the Republican Convention will go on as scheduled Monday, which I confess is a surprise to me. I would assume that two days is not enough time for the Secret Service to review the events of today and to quadruple their security by then.
I imagine by tomorrow we will know more about the assassin and maybe the reason behind his actions.
Prayers for the families of today’s deceased and wounded.
What we know about the shooting so far
Fran Lawther
- Trump was speaking at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, when loud noises were heard in the crowd around 6.13pm.
- Trump appeared to have been struck by something in the area of his right ear as he was speaking, and videos show him quickly clutching his ear and then ducking down to the ground, as security agents and others leap to his aid.
- Trump stood up with blood on the side of his face and appeared to be saying “fight, fight” while pumping his fist.
- Trump was then quickly escorted from the stage and into his vehicle.
- The rally location is now an active crime scene.
- Trump’s team and the Secret Service confirmed that he was “fine” and being checked at a local medical facility.
- The Butler county district attorney confirmed that the suspected shooter and one rally attendee were dead. Another person at the rally was in serious condition. The Secret Service later said two people were critically injured.
- The shooting is being investigated as an attempted assassination.
- The Secret Service shared more details on the shooter’s position and confirmed that the shooter was killed by the Secret Service.
www.theguardian.com
Fran Lawther
- Trump was speaking at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, when loud noises were heard in the crowd around 6.13pm.
- Trump appeared to have been struck by something in the area of his right ear as he was speaking, and videos show him quickly clutching his ear and then ducking down to the ground, as security agents and others leap to his aid.
- Trump stood up with blood on the side of his face and appeared to be saying “fight, fight” while pumping his fist.
- Trump was then quickly escorted from the stage and into his vehicle.
- The rally location is now an active crime scene.
- Trump’s team and the Secret Service confirmed that he was “fine” and being checked at a local medical facility.
- The Butler county district attorney confirmed that the suspected shooter and one rally attendee were dead. Another person at the rally was in serious condition. The Secret Service later said two people were critically injured.
- The shooting is being investigated as an attempted assassination.
- The Secret Service shared more details on the shooter’s position and confirmed that the shooter was killed by the Secret Service.
Trump and Biden speak after deadly rally shooting; shooter reportedly opened fire from roof with AR-style rifle – latest updates
Biden condemns political violence after shooting at Pennsylvania rally leaves one spectator dead and at least two injured; suspect shot from roof, reports say
“Very shocking … a lot of people just thought it was fireworks going off, I knew immediately it was gunfire,” Meyn said.
Meyn, a surgeon from Grove City, Pennsylvania, told CNN he helped carry the man out of the bleachers.
“I was at the far right of the podium, where the people sit in the front. I was filming him (Trump) speaking on my phone. Just as I was panning back, I heard seven gunshots in rapid successions, in under two or three seconds,” Meyn said.
Meyn said he looked back in the direction the gunshots had come from. “I saw a man in the bleachers was hit directly in the head and died instantly. … There was a woman who was hit in the hand and forearm, a noncritical wound.”
He said he went over to see if he could render any aid, but another doctor was already helping the woman who’d been shot.
“I helped carry the body of the man out of the stands. They took the body to the tent behind the bleachers,” Meyn added.
CNN reached Meyn as he was waiting to give a witness statement to the FBI. “They want the data off my phone,” he said. “This is the first Trump rally I’ve been to. … You don’t anticipate this stuff to go on, it’s pure insanity.”
Does it show the victim in the bleachers?
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There's a clearer photo of the gunman's body here. Witnesses said he was wearing camouflage pants, but they look like shorts to me. I thought he had dressed himself to blend in with LE, but that no longer appears to be the case. There are other photos elsewhere that are far more graphic, but I won't post them here. He's gotta be in his mid 20s at most.
www.dailymail.co.uk
Trump supporter claims he warned agents about gunman hiding on roof
The shaken witness said he saw the suspected gunman on a nearby roof for several minutes and warned agents, but was bewildered by a lack of action before shots were fired.
Representative Ronnie Jackson says nephew grazed by bullet at rally
Christal Hayes
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Representative Ronnie Jackson, a Texas Republican, told Fox News in an interview that his nephew was at the rally and was grazed in the neck by a bullet.
He told the network he'd set up special access for his family to attend the rally in Pennsylvania. They were sitting in a "friends and family" section to Trump's right when they started to hear gunfire, he says.
Jackson says his nephew was "in the line of fire" and was bleeding from the neck. His family realised it was a bullet after seeing someone a few rows behind them had been shot, he says.
They went to a medical tent and saw another injured person with critical injuries to their head, Jackson says.
Christal Hayes
US reporter
Representative Ronnie Jackson, a Texas Republican, told Fox News in an interview that his nephew was at the rally and was grazed in the neck by a bullet.
He told the network he'd set up special access for his family to attend the rally in Pennsylvania. They were sitting in a "friends and family" section to Trump's right when they started to hear gunfire, he says.
Jackson says his nephew was "in the line of fire" and was bleeding from the neck. His family realised it was a bullet after seeing someone a few rows behind them had been shot, he says.
They went to a medical tent and saw another injured person with critical injuries to their head, Jackson says.
Trump to make VP pick today as Republican convention begins
The former president says that he intends to announce his running mate on the first day of the Republican National Convention.
www.bbc.co.uk
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House of Representatives will conduct “full investigation” of shooting, says speaker
From CNN's Manu Raju
House Speaker Mike Johnson vowed to conduct a “full investigation” of the shooting in a statement on X on Saturday.
“The American people deserve to know the truth. We will have Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle and other appropriate officials from DHS and the FBI appear for a hearing before our committees ASAP,” he wrote.
The shooting is being investigated as a possible assassination attempt, according to law enforcement officials.
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Butler mayor said Biden offered full support to city in wake of rally shooting
From CNN’s Jamiel Lynch
Butler Mayor Robert Dandoy told CNN he was offered full support from the White House in a conversation with President Joe Biden after the shooting at former President Donald Trump’s rally Saturday night.
During their conversation, Dandoy said Biden offered his condolences to the city, located in western Pennsylvania.
“He offered anything they can do for us, and I offered the same,” Dandoy told CNN.
Biden also spoke with Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro and Trump on Saturday, according to the White House.
House of Representatives will conduct “full investigation” of shooting, says speaker
From CNN's Manu Raju
House Speaker Mike Johnson vowed to conduct a “full investigation” of the shooting in a statement on X on Saturday.
“The American people deserve to know the truth. We will have Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle and other appropriate officials from DHS and the FBI appear for a hearing before our committees ASAP,” he wrote.
The shooting is being investigated as a possible assassination attempt, according to law enforcement officials.
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Butler mayor said Biden offered full support to city in wake of rally shooting
From CNN’s Jamiel Lynch
Butler Mayor Robert Dandoy told CNN he was offered full support from the White House in a conversation with President Joe Biden after the shooting at former President Donald Trump’s rally Saturday night.
During their conversation, Dandoy said Biden offered his condolences to the city, located in western Pennsylvania.
“He offered anything they can do for us, and I offered the same,” Dandoy told CNN.
Biden also spoke with Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro and Trump on Saturday, according to the White House.
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No, but from the various maps & reports, I have put a red dot on the location map from the USA Today article to indicate where (I think) the shooter was on the roof of the building (labeled "Manufacturing company" on USA Today's graphic). MOO.
(Note: I have added the red dot to this map. The rest of the image is from the linked USA Today article.)
Where was Trump rally? Butler County, PA appearance was site of shooting Saturday
A rally in Butler County, Pennsylvania, where Trump enjoys strong support, ended with the candidate rushed off stage after shots were fired Saturday.
www.usatoday.com
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CNN is playing a video taken outside the rally, right below where the shooter was stationed. People scream "he's got a gun," and "he's on the roof," in an attempt to notify law enforcement. Seconds later the shots ring out.
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You're right, the photo is out there on X now.
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