US - Shots fired at Donald Trump rally in Pennsylvania as former president is seen with blood across his face, 13 July 2024

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neesaki said:
The head of the SS abruptly refused to answer any questions about this attempted assassination.
I personally am not thinking very highly of her at the moment.
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She ain't talking, her boss ain't talking, and her boss's boss ain't talking.

I think the American people deserve/need more than a few more fuzzy words to calm the situation.
Moo....
 
Inthedetails said:
I'm curious about any schooling after high school. He was apparently bright, having received an award for math and being involved with the school computer lab. Did he attend college? In person or remote?

Since we're not hearing much about it, I'm assuming he was not attending college. And, we are not hearing about employment either.

How was he spending his time? Idle hands are the devil's workshop. Was he doing anything productive? Not having a purpose can put your mind dwelling on things that aren't healthy - like showing your high school rifle team you can make a shot more impressive than any of their shots.

I'm thinking this is a case of a young man who wasn't building his life so he decided to destroy it and everything around him (including, potentially, national peace*).

jmopinion, worth what you paid for it

*Don't let him succeed.
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One of the latest articles linked here states that he worked in a nursing home.
 
NoSpoonFeeding said:
This is getting very confusing, you are responding to a post that is responding to another post, not a news article or anything factual and someone asked about the "I'm not buying this at all" as if it means someone is lying. It was just someone's opinion that a possibility is that the shooter was mistaken for another LE sniper. You have to work your way back to the original post to respond to that idea.
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The point is,
1. it was stated by a former FBI agent that the shooter was probably mistaken for their own security.
2. Posters give reasons that this would be impossible.
3. I guess rather than my asking why they are lying, which is admittedly not good phrasing, I should ask, then why did he go unnoticed?
That is what I ought to have asked.
 
Simply Southern said:
She ain't talking, her boss ain't talking, and her boss's boss ain't talking.

I think the American people deserve/need more than a few more fuzzy words to calm the situation.
Moo....
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I’m quite shocked they even agreed to this press conference so soon. All participants and witnesses need to be debriefed before uttering a word to the press. We deserve the complete story and what changes will be made, especially when securing outdoor locations. IMO
 
I also wonder about his education, and why such a seemingly intelligent young man would not go on to college, and instead is employed as a food service worker at a nursing home. I suspect deep mental issues and a "failure to launch", possibly due to anxiety. Not garden-variety generalized anxiety but the kind where a person ruminates over the same thoughts all day and night. Whether politically motivated, or as @Inthedetails mentioned, an underlying desire to destroy (coupled with the wish for notoriety), this culminated in suicide by cop in the most spectacular way.
 
browneyes said:
I’m quite shocked they even agreed to this press conference so soon. All participants and witnesses need to be debriefed before uttering a word to the press. We deserve the complete story and what changes will be made, especially when securing outdoor locations. IMO
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I'm thinking it was to reassure people that the convention venue is safe and secure. Otherwise people would be crying out - what about Milwaukee?

jmopinion
 
browneyes said:
I can barely hear some of it. So frustrating.

I personally do not think the shooting was essentially politically motivated. The shooter wanted notoriety even though he knew it would most likely cost him his life. It sounds like he didn’t really have friends growing up. JMHO
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Here's a link with closed captioning at least. But still it seems like the camera was turned on only partway through. Very frustrating, imo.

www.c-span.org

Secret Service Says No Change in Security Plans for RNC Following Assassination Attempt on Former Pres. Trump

www.c-span.org www.c-span.org
 
sallye818 said:
I also wonder about his education, and why such a seemingly intelligent young man would not go on to college, and instead is employed as a food service worker at a nursing home. I suspect deep mental issues and a "failure to launch", possibly due to anxiety. Not garden-variety generalized anxiety but the kind where a person ruminates over the same thoughts all day and night. Whether politically motivated, or as @Inthedetails mentioned, an underlying desire to destroy (coupled with the wish for notoriety), this culminated in suicide by cop in the most spectacular way.
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For now, I'm thinking he is not different than school shooters. Instead of horrifying the nation by shooting kids, he shot a presidential candidate.

Suicide by sniper.

jmo
 
Simply Southern said:
She ain't talking, her boss ain't talking, and her boss's boss ain't talking.

I think the American people deserve/need more than a few more fuzzy words to calm the situation.
Moo....
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I think she knows they failed and she failed. It will ultimately fall on them and they didn't do their job yesterday. I am sure tough questions are being asked and she will have to answer to someone for this failure.
 
Gemmie said:

Shooting suspect was rejected from high school rifle club​

The man suspected of shooting Donald Trump previously sought to join his high school’s rifle club, but was rejected and asked not to return, two students who were members of the team at the time told ABC News.

The suspect, Thomas Crooks, attended what was described as "preseason" for the rifle club, which is held before tryouts, but he did not make it to the tryouts, the two team members said. Both students said Crooks was a "bad shot," with one adding that he wasn't the right "fit."

"He didn't just not make the team -- he was asked not to come back because how bad of a shot he was. It was considered like, dangerous," classmate Jameson Myers told ABC News.

"On the first day of preseason, he basically couldn't even hit the target," Myers said.

abcnews.go.com

Trump shooting updates: Shooter flew drone 200 yards from site hours before shooting

Former President Donald Trump was rushed off stage during an election rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, on Saturday after he was shot in an assassination attempt.
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Fortunately, he was a bad shot, and he missed.

JMVHO.
 
Inthedetails said:
For now, I'm thinking he is not different than school shooters. Instead of horrifying the nation by shooting kids, he shot a presidential candidate.

Suicide by sniper.

jmo
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Classic mass shooter, imo.

I created a thread years ago comparing a bunch of mass shooters, it’s floating around here somewhere.
 
Betty P said:

Can't say I blame her.
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From the quoted link, the crowd money authorized by the Trump campaign to support victims and families, after the former president's apparent assassination attempt, has raised over $2.3 million — more than double of the fundraiser’s goal.

I hope these victims and families feel the arms of the world surrounding each of them.
 
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