TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #7

[Hausos]

Feel like in cases such as this, where everything almost seems to be very conveniently set up, (setting up a garage sale in public with minimal advertising/no notice & then killer swoops in right after someone leaves), the most obvious answer is the correct answer. Especially considering the actions of certain individual(s) after the murder. My hunch could be wrong though.

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

I think its highly likely the truck did not belong to the shooter, but was "borrowed" knowingly or unknowingly. If the shooter is female, I can picture her snatching the keys while (someone like) her bf slept, nagging the SNOT of him until she got her way (reasonable behavior for someone that could shoot someone else point blank), or made an excuse to use it.

Liz sold on Etsy? I have always wondered if Liz was into any MLMs. I have conjured a scenario where an angry single mother took out her frustrations on Liz after putting her last pennies into an MLM. They are often single mothers targeted around Christmas time. This was not too far after Christmas and I picture a struggling single mother furious that Liz was headed to Disney while she (the mother) lost all her money in the MLM scheme. Its just an idea thats popped into my head before.

Oh good point too about the possibility of a someone burrowing the vehicle and the owner not even being aware! That is a viewpoint I overlooked and is probably very helpful to LE who are using that lens too.

I am not sure if Liz was involved in MLM but she sold handcrafted items, like Harry Potter shoes she made IIRC, on Etsy.

 

[arielilane]

Wait, the pro4x sticker was green and white?

The decal on every pro4x I’ve ever seen from those years has been either yellow/white or (less commonly) red/white.

If green/white is accurate that is incredibly unusual and very likely an aftermarket sticker.

In my search I found only one (1) pro-4x in a vinyl black & lime decal - below the pro-4x there's solid black font noting "off road." I dont use Google as my search engine, though. moo

 

[dub]

In my search I found only one (1) pro-4x in a vinyl black & lime decal - below the pro-4x there's solid black font noting "off road." I dont use Google as my search engine, though. moo

What I’m really curious about is whether pro4x frontiers from this years were ever sold that actually came with a green/white decal.

I don’t think they were (but I could be wrong about that), and if that’s the case we’re probably NOT looking for a pro4x, it’s most likely another type of frontier with the decal put on after the fact.

(I guess it’s possible someone could buy a pro4x and take the included decal off and replace it with a green/white one, but I don’t see that as likely)

 

[Curiousobserver]

The truck is key to solving the murder of Liz Barraza.

-- Canvassing of the entire neighborhood for the vehicle
-- Most companies did not rent out those type of vehicles
-- No license plate visible
-- Tried to have video enhanced. Another attempt to enhance video is in the process
-- No casings, LE believe a revolver used to murder Liz. They do have some of the projectiles
-- Projectiles were entered into the national ballistics database
-- Decal outline near the bed of the truck pro-4x green & white in color
-- 2012-19 dark Nissan Frontier Pro-4x crew cab truck
-- LE believe it was black, possibly dark blue
-- Witness confirmed vehicle type

Quick action and many thanks to the outstanding neighbor who immediately called 911 that fateful morning.

On 1/25/2019 a BOLO is issued for a black Nissan Frontier:

Traffic stop on Kuykendhal/FM2920 WB (01/25/19 07:1010 42 JDyer)

Curious why there's no mention about the truck stop shortly after Liz was murdered? I've said it early on and still have the same opinion about this crime being connected and close to someone in Liz's surrounding neighborhood. Did someone stop and get rid of items? Did someone provide assistance? It is strange that the vehicle stop gave no red flags, nothing in the vehicle looked questionable? Someone familiar with the neighborhood. The driver of the vehicle able to carry on. moo

I agree- the truck is the key and I am beyond shocked that nobody in Liz and Sergio's circle of friends recognizes it and that nobody has seen it again in that area.

 

[poppyquiche]

I have absolutely no real solid inklings about what happened to this poor woman, but I'm shocked this case has gone cold. I feel terrible for her parents.

Also, this may be just because I myself have a few tenuous ties to the SW cosplay and the overall Star Wars fandom community, but I just don't feel like this has anything to do with that angle. I feel like there'd have been some MUCH more well-known beef with another person/persons if that were the case. Nerd groups like this tend to be pretty gossipy and people will know each other for years and years and years. I'd find it really hard to believe that someone in the group had a grudge against her to the point that they hated her enough to stalk her down at her own home and murder her out in the open, and yet that sort of a grudge wouldn't be an open secret amongst a number of people.

 

[fridaybaker]

I can't remember where the write-up by the LEO of the Frontier they stopped a few minutes after the murder is located, and I apologize if my comment here has been brought up before, but does anyone remember if the truck LE stopped was this:
-"2012-19 dark Nissan Frontier Pro-4x crew cab truck"?

I'd think that would be a pretty big coincidence.

 

[Megnut]

I can't remember where the write-up by the LEO of the Frontier they stopped a few minutes after the murder is located, and I apologize if my comment here has been brought up before, but does anyone remember if the truck LE stopped was this:
-"2012-19 dark Nissan Frontier Pro-4x crew cab truck"?

I'd think that would be a pretty big coincidence.

Yes, and iirc, they dismissed that vehicle because the occupant(s) had a reason to be there.

I have often wondered if that person had TWO reasons to be there. Paper route/deliveries; children in the car, headed to daycare; any kind of work uniform.

But I can't fathom LE not revisiting that.

JMO

 

[arielilane]

I have absolutely no real solid inklings about what happened to this poor woman, but I'm shocked this case has gone cold. I feel terrible for her parents.

Also, this may be just because I myself have a few tenuous ties to the SW cosplay and the overall Star Wars fandom community, but I just don't feel like this has anything to do with that angle. I feel like there'd have been some MUCH more well-known beef with another person/persons if that were the case. Nerd groups like this tend to be pretty gossipy and people will know each other for years and years and years. I'd find it really hard to believe that someone in the group had a grudge against her to the point that they hated her enough to stalk her down at her own home and murder her out in the open, and yet that sort of a grudge wouldn't be an open secret amongst a number of people.

My heart breaks for the Nuelle family.

I know nothing about SW, cosplay, Harry Potter, etc., never followed any of it, and, no, haven’t been living under a rock. Dont think the cosplay community is related to the crime.

Lean toward someone enraged with Liz. Maybe someone wanted to embarrass her by displaying her on her own driveway in front of her own home, or maybe the garage sale an opportunity to commit the murder?

I believe the disguise was to appear as if it cosplay related.

Who knew the garage sale would happen that day?

As Andy Kahn (crimestoppers/Houston) stated, "the public is our best eyes and ears out there.”

I believe the case will be solved by the public. Only wish it would get more attention- someone is sitting on info - probably thinking it’s not important.

The Liz Barraza case will be resolved one day!

All jmo, at this time

 

[fridaybaker]

I knew that they stopped a dark Nissan Frontier. I didn’t realize that it was within the years possible as the murderer’s truck, as well as the fact that it was the Pro-4x and also a crew cab.
Now, I don’t know much about trucks, but are all Pro 4-x crew cabs? At any rate, what a coincidence!

 

[arielilane]

I can't remember where the write-up by the LEO of the Frontier they stopped a few minutes after the murder is located, and I apologize if my comment here has been brought up before, but does anyone remember if the truck LE stopped was this:
-"2012-19 dark Nissan Frontier Pro-4x crew cab truck"?

I'd think that would be a pretty big coincidence.

The report is in Arrin Stoner's first video. Timestamp 1:01.
This is what the report shows:

(84250) BLACK NISSAN FRONTIER PICKUP [01/25/19 07:05.06 JDYER]

Also, the driver of the truck was in the area for work.

moo

 

[arielilane]

Maybe someone can do a print screen?

timestamp 1:01:42

ALARM AT 8623 CEDAR WALK 2019 0253441 [01/25/19 07:22 33 KNANSELI (4N83) LF ON THE GROUND [01/25/19 07:21:23 JDYER] RELATED TO 2019 0253420 |01/25/19 07:18.00 KNANSEL]
CHANNELS SPLIT PER 84250 [01/25/19 07:16.28 JDYER] (4K11) BACK IN FROM TRAFFIC STILL ON THE SLIP_101/25/19 07:15:23 JDYER]
PRINCETON/ROSEVALE SETTING UP LZ FOR LIFE FLIGHT |01/25/19 07:14:54 JDYER]
/CHANNEL REL 0715 [01/25/19 07:13:33 JDYER]
UNK IF WILL WORK OR NOT [01/25/19 07:12:12 JDYER]
8226-M-2928-S8-OffestocAtittttt10wes9ooove
5225 FM 2920 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 2920 [01/25/19 07.12: 12 KNANSEL]
MASNTHINITIATEDTRAPPIGSTOPYET(01/2571907,1705JDYER)
KUYKENDHALFM 2920 WB [01/25/19 07: 10:42 JDYER]
(4차)))
[01/25/19 07:11.21 KNANSEL]
(4K11) BLACK NISSAN SB KUYKENDAHL CHANNEL HELD [01/25/19 07:10:08 JDYER]
(84250) BLACK NISSAN FRONTIER PICKUP [01/25/19 07:05.06 JDYER]
(84250) CHANNEL REL [01/25/19 07:03-24 JDYER] LINKED EVENTS 2019-0253214(533) TO 2019-0253281(601) [01/25/19 07 [01/25/19 07:02 27 KNANSEL]
(LAW) REP AVAILABLE FOR CONTACT [01/25/19 07:03:27 KSRUGLEY]
(84250) DO BOLO ON THE VEHICLE AND DOT//8614 CEDAR WALK GABY 936 225 0931 [01/25/19 07:00:59
JDYER]
(LAW) REP ADV VE APPROACHED RESD, SOMEONE GOT OUT, SHOT AND SPED OFF IN VEH |01/25/19
07:02 25 KRUGLEY]
EMS ENRT [01/25/19 07.00:53 KNANSEL]
(4N30) WF BLEEDING HEAVILY FROM THE HEAD [01/25/19 06:59:58 JDYER]
(4N30) CHANNEL HELD [01/25/19 06 59:08 JDYER]
(4N30) NEED EMS [01/25/19 06:58:52 JDYER]
Linked Events 2019-0253214(525) to 2019-0253222(533) |01/25/19 06 55:51 JDYER]

 

[dub]

I knew that they stopped a dark Nissan Frontier. I didn’t realize that it was within the years possible as the murderer’s truck, as well as the fact that it was the Pro-4x and also a crew cab.
Now, I don’t know much about trucks, but are all Pro 4-x crew cabs? At any rate, what a coincidence!

I’ve never heard that the truck pulled over was a pro4x, or that it was a crew cab.

I just looked it up and they apparently do make single cab pro4x in that range of years, but I’ve never seen one in my life that I can recall.

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

Yes, and iirc, they dismissed that vehicle because the occupant(s) had a reason to be there.

I have often wondered if that person had TWO reasons to be there. Paper route/deliveries; children in the car, headed to daycare; any kind of work uniform.

But I can't fathom LE not revisiting that.

JMO

It is interesting too that LE thought that killer wouldn’t have a reason to be there, i.e. would not be a neighbor or someone who employed in that neighborhood. It does make me wonder what type of person or impressions did they have initially in order to identify the shooter? Especially in the instance that 85% of homicide victims knew their killer personally and Liz was tragically murdered while setting up a garage sale in her own neighborhood. Why wouldn’t there be the possibility then the killer be in some way associated with both Liz and her neighborhood or in other words, why wouldn’t the killer belong there?

Wouldn’t precaution and the need for more specific information on possible suspects or motives dictate avoiding ruling out those in the vicinity or area until adequate evidence indicates otherwise?

Also, early news reports and Liz’s family mentioned during interviews that the aforementioned truck wasn’t common in that area so it would still be practical to not rule out a driver or a truck that in the area is both rare and matches a description of vehicle involved in a crime? Doesn’t mean arrest the person or violate their rights but maybe escalate that info or pay more attention to the route it takes and verify their alibis and such MOO

 

[fridaybaker]

Well, Apple tree green, you need to apply for a job with LE. It seems they could use you.

 

[lonewanderer]

Yes, and iirc, they dismissed that vehicle because the occupant(s) had a reason to be there.

I have often wondered if that person had TWO reasons to be there. Paper route/deliveries; children in the car, headed to daycare; any kind of work uniform.

But I can't fathom LE not revisiting that.

JMO

It is interesting too that LE thought that killer wouldn’t have a reason to be there, i.e. would not be a neighbor or someone who employed in that neighborhood. It does make me wonder what type of person or impressions did they have initially in order to identify the shooter? Especially in the instance that 85% of homicide victims knew their killer personally and Liz was tragically murdered while setting up a garage sale in her own neighborhood. Why wouldn’t there be the possibility then the killer be in some way associated with both Liz and her neighborhood or in other words, why wouldn’t the killer belong there?

Wouldn’t precaution and the need for more specific information on possible suspects or motives dictate avoiding ruling out those in the vicinity or area until adequate evidence indicates otherwise?

Also, early news reports and Liz’s family mentioned during interviews that the aforementioned truck wasn’t common in that area so it would still be practical to not rule out a driver or a truck that in the area is both rare and matches a description of vehicle involved in a crime? Doesn’t mean arrest the person or violate their rights but maybe escalate that info or pay more attention to the route it takes and verify their alibis and such MOO

What time was the vehicle pulled over? I have heard conflicting times such as before the shooting or after the shooting.

I have long suspected the driver/shooter is female and had a small child in the truck or a decoy of a small child sleeping in the truck and used that as a reason to be driving around at such odd times, to get the child to sleep. I also think it could be the reason they pulled into the daycare near Liz's house, no one would really think twice about a woman with a small child pulled in there.

 

[lonewanderer]

I knew that they stopped a dark Nissan Frontier. I didn’t realize that it was within the years possible as the murderer’s truck, as well as the fact that it was the Pro-4x and also a crew cab.
Now, I don’t know much about trucks, but are all Pro 4-x crew cabs? At any rate, what a coincidence!

Meant to tag you in the reply I just made, too.

Short version, if it was the same truck, I think the shooters "good reason" may have been having a sleeping child or decoy of a sleeping child in the truck.

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

Well, Apple tree green, you need to apply for a job with LE. It seems they could use you.

I’m flattered but I don’t have anywhere near the skills that LE, forensics specialists, legal analysis and family and trauma support professionals have that would be needed to help solve this case, secure justice for Liz and her loved ones and be of aid and help to her family. I think though the Nuella family, LE and many of Liz’s friends, loved and teammates have been incredible in advocating for her, sharing and centering her story and helping LE in their pursuit of the perp/perps who needs to take accountability for violating and robbing Liz of her right to life, safety and and the opportunity to fight back before they heinously gunnned her down. I do have still faith that will catch her killers especially with task force involved now too.

IMO, though perhaps biased, it does not seem like Liz was not the type of person who could not handle conflict or not hold a decent and respectful conversation to address any problems or concerns. Of course this is just my own bias or perception from what I learned about her while listening to the testimonies and stories shared by her families, friends, colleagues and other loved ones. I just don’t understand why this perp escalated to such violence when she does not seem like the type of person you could not talk to or would grow aggressive and viciously you instead if the tables were turned. Her killer, or the person who hired or set them on her, chose the most reactive and extreme route that they will live with for the rest of their lives. They had so many lawful, ethical, rewarding and feasible choices available to them that would have been much more beneficial to both parties but chose the one that resulted in the most violence, death and irreversible loss and consequences. This person may not only lack adequate problem solving and decision skills necessary to continue as a functional adult that society can trust, they also lack empathy and respect for human life and human boundaries as they violate the dignity every living body should be afforded whether you like them or are angry with them or not.

Funny they felt brave and powerful enough to fire their bullet filled gun at LB but not even their ego is tough enough to face her loved ones and LE to admit all the crimes they have done against her, to be judged and be forced to answered why they stole that which did not belong to them, unlike the well-deserved prison cell that has been reserved just them and waiting for far too long a time. At this point if they think they are tough enough to commit such a vicious murder than they should have that same hardness when it comes to spending their eternity in America’s hellish prison system. So what’s stopping them?

 

[lonewanderer]

I have absolutely no real solid inklings about what happened to this poor woman, but I'm shocked this case has gone cold. I feel terrible for her parents.

Also, this may be just because I myself have a few tenuous ties to the SW cosplay and the overall Star Wars fandom community, but I just don't feel like this has anything to do with that angle. I feel like there'd have been some MUCH more well-known beef with another person/persons if that were the case. Nerd groups like this tend to be pretty gossipy and people will know each other for years and years and years. I'd find it really hard to believe that someone in the group had a grudge against her to the point that they hated her enough to stalk her down at her own home and murder her out in the open, and yet that sort of a grudge wouldn't be an open secret amongst a number of people.

In my branches of theories for this crime, one of them involves illegal activity between Sergio and the person he named initially, who was a Legion member.

He backed off QUICK with that name and it makes me wonder if there is something he needed to not be known. Mishandling of funds, affairs, etc.

 

[lonewanderer]

I agree- the truck is the key and I am beyond shocked that nobody in Liz and Sergio's circle of friends recognizes it and that nobody has seen it again in that area.

I fully believe that truck was from out of state and the shooter used it with or without the owners permission.