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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    I can't place Joubert in Iowa at that time. And, he was in custody I believe when Martin went missing. However, Joubert admitted to the two murders in Nebraska but denied responsibility for the Stetson murder. Joubert's first Nebraska victim, Danny Joe Eberle, went missing from his Omaha paper...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    No, I'm not a detective and wouldn't want to be one. I like this place, and I think it has been helpful to several cases. I don't see anything wrong with this kind of "armchair" dissection of & discussion about unsolved cases. But, I'm the guy who walks over to the local cops taking a break...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Yes, this is logical. Sadly, in some cases this logic has been tragically defied. In the case of the paperboy killer John Joubert, for example. Joubert was a very small man - barely bigger than his victims. In pictures, he looks like a child. According to Joubert, his victims initially simply...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    The photos were sent to Noreen Gosch by a Tim White. His online claim of responsibility is quoted in various places throught these threads. Tim White claims to have received the photos from "Jimmy Gibson"
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Armchair14: You are very kind, but let me assure you that I am far from being "brilliant". Somewhere in the archives of these threads, Shadowwraith posted links to some old newspaper articles about the Gosch case. In one of those, investigator SAM SODA talks about uncovering evidence that a...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Possibly, because some older person associated with the newspaper delivery system was going to help him run away? Perhaps, by picking him up from the route in a car? Refer to my next posting for a potential candidate to be such a person...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Yea, verily - and hoorah for that! Doogie is a very admirable version of an "sleuth", in my opinion. I've come to realize that there are certain obstacles, to almost every person having the ability to make any meaningful contribution to this case, some of which have existed from 'day 1'...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    The Trineday site (publishers of The Franklin Scandal) and The Franklin Scandal dot com site are both gone too. OOO-EEE-OOO!
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    I totally agree that "not everybody in Washington DC is squeaky clean". Yes, people with all kinds of nefarious or criminal inclinations can end up in leadership positions and that certainly includes politicians. It's not impossible that some people serving in the US government might have...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Former NYPD detective James Rothstein, a member of Noreen Gosch's investigative team, has been telling tall tales for years. I recently discovered an outrageously blatant fabrication of his from 2007. In an interview with Paul David Collins, in reference to the Deborah Jeane Palfrey...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Regarding the three allegedly related 'suspects'; Emilio, Michael & Tony (yes?) that Doogie previously stated may have been identified, including their last name and places of residence at the time of Johnny's disappearance: Is there any information that might link them to employees of the Des...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Here's one of the things troubling me about the statements our friend Dr D says that Jimmy Gibson made. Apparently Gibson currently denies having sent any of the fake Gosch photos to Tim White, as White has claimed. Tim White is certainly not a reliable source of info, in my opinion, but I have...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    I dunno, Doogie. Some of what you are describing, things you have been told, make me feel even more suspicious about certain persons and the truthfulness of their statements. Other things are just plain puzzling. I have some questions, the answeres to which might help me feel less suspicious...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    I didn't say "hatch a plot", I said "active & willing participants". However, it does seem unlikely that Jimmy would have been involved in Johnny's abduction...he might have been a runaway already at 12 (it happens) but I don't know that...so I may have over-reacted to the scenario you...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    How would they obtain a passport without one? In any case, If Johnny is alive he has obviously not been in "his current circumstances" for 20+ years - so how was he supporting himself before that? I wasn't sure what to make of Gibson for a long time, but your revelations that he's been...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Doogie, Regarding your comment, that Jimmy Gibson told you none of the bondage photos are of Johnny. You & I already knew that, of course. Remember the original 3 photos, one of which was apparently photoshopped to add the "brand", probably to reinforce the whole story told by Bonacci &...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Doogie, You've certainly done a lot of work on this since we last conversed, and you have my thanks for that. It's hard to conceive of a circumstance under which a social security number would not be necessary. You have to have one if you are an inmate, or a patient, even if you are not...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Hi Doogie! Howya been? Very intriguing, that you've made contact with Bonacci and Jimmy Gibson and that they claim to be in contact with a living Johnny Gosch. Did you ask them if he's in contact with his mother, and if not, why he;s in contact with them but not with her? Did you ask them if...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    Capt. brought up "Legacy of Ashes" The History of the CIA by Tim Weiner. I highly recommend it to everyone. It is a fascinating read, based on all the declassified documents available up to the present day. What stands out, documented by Weiner in this book, is how utterly & hopelessly...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    Shadow - thanks for the articles referencing Noreen Gosch's statements that she believed her son to be a victim of a "cult" (note, no mention of Satanic at that point), and specifically pointing a finger at "The Way International". Other than the letter (of condolence) she claims to have...

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