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If this is true he must've been absolutely bricking it.

I think UK & Eire are copying these tweets directly because wording here is exactly the same - down to "the Monday" .... using 4 dots etc

Sorry I should have clarified - Shauna may have been in regular contact with the children in care team. I'm thinking that the content of that conversation (if she managed to speak to anyone) could prove very important.

Just a theory but perhaps this was because they were already making plans to reconcile with SH parents, so she wanted to talk to them (Children in care) about it? For all we know SH may have been in regular contact with them.

It could be that this 'I closed my eyes' etc is all rubbish because he had planned to do all this from the start. If he says he was focussed and steady when doing the dismemberment then it doesn't really fit with the 'none of this was planned' explanation he's going with.

This is one part of a trial I don't understand - wouldn't it make much more sense for NM and SH to not see eachother's testimony? Otherwise it makes it too easy for them to corroborate their stories.

The way he's refusing to look at any of the items used ... so cowardly. YOU did this mate, the family are having to sit there day after day listening to the gruesome details, the least you could do is face what you have done.

Prosecution is doing a fine job. I'm glad to hear they're making him suffer and squirm. I do hope SH takes the stand. If she really is as innocent as she claims then she should have no reason not to.

Or he's just trying to make it sound like it wasn't a sustained attack where the end goal was always Becky's death.

So 'the plan' was more important than anything else apparently, including Becky's life. He does say he is 'black and white' but come on. Tunnel vision or what

I meant that more in a 'you're a delicate female flower so you can't possibly do anything physical for yourself' kind of way.

He seems like the type of guy who might insist on it simply because she was pregnant.

I'm not sure even the items are important as it is reasonable to assume that she could have unpacked them

Me too. I shouldn't be laughing but he is making NM look like a farce, it's hilarious.

If you look at the CCTV images of when she walks into the shop, she is holding her sleeves over her hands there as well. Could just be force of habit. Unfortunately the clip of them packing bags is only 29 seconds long, difficult to really tell whether she doesn't touch anything at all after that.

Just watched it and she definitely touches them with her hands as well. I must admit I always hold my sleeves like that (sort of over my hands), especially when I'm wearing cardigans. I'm just always cold :p

Hi Tortoise, the bit in bold above, I had not heard this. Do you have a link? Thanks

Just trying to catch up today but don't really have time to read through everything unfortunately. I read the UK & Eire Facebook updates yesterday so I am more or less up to speed about what has happened in court. Could someone explain to me why 'we know that SH was involved for sure'...

I feel there really would be no issue using this as a term, except we know their names. Why not use them? Because of that I find it odd, but I am willing to concede there is no intent behind it, it's just jarring. Especially considering there is, in fact, more than one female suspect on this...

This would've been a much better explanation than the 'bow down to my superior deductive skills' response that I received. My original post was not intended as an attack, I simply said I found the use of 'the female' consistently quite uncomfortable. Whether knowingly used or not, it is a term...