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    Federal Indictment: James Burke, Former Suffolk Co PD Chief, December 2015 - #3

    Actually I noticed there were a bunch of serial killers arrested at that time, but I didn't know one or more of those three apparently related killings was attributed to one of them. So is Melani Vilavencencio considered to be one of his victims? Why is there only one mention of her on Google...
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    Federal Indictment: James Burke, Former Suffolk Co PD Chief, December 2015 - #3

    I don't want to drive away the regulars by overposting the same points in great length, so I'll try to avoid posting on this anymore except if somebody who enjoys paper wants to try and get the initial police report that mentions the dna, as well as the initial lab result from 1993 regarding...
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    Federal Indictment: James Burke, Former Suffolk Co PD Chief, December 2015 - #3

    Sorry, I meant that the cases overlapped in a lot of ways and there were a number of these overlapping cases besides the three that police say Bittrolff was involved in, which involved that. There seems to be a pattern that evolves a bit with what seem like trivial differences. Here is a very...
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    Federal Indictment: James Burke, Former Suffolk Co PD Chief, December 2015 - #3

    Regarding Bittrolff, if he did have sex with two of the victims within 2 hours of when they died then it would probably be okay to not put too much effort into flagging his case as problematic. The prosecution's entire case, as far as I know, is built on the supposed dna evidence, which if...
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    Federal Indictment: James Burke, Former Suffolk Co PD Chief, December 2015 - #3

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/melissa-barthelemy-the-long-island-serial-killer-victims-secret-life http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1375418/Craigslist-Ripper-taunted-teenager-phone-sent-texts-strangling-victim.html...
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    Federal Indictment: James Burke, Former Suffolk Co PD Chief, December 2015 - #3

    A lot of it is confusing to me, but one basic question seems central to whether there is a great conspiracy involving a lot of connected people or simply a few coincidences. Are there any indications in the calls to Amanda Barthelemy and the boyfriend of her sister that indicate that she lived...
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    Federal Indictment: James Burke, Former Suffolk Co PD Chief, December 2015 - #3

    Somebody posted a report by an investigator or law firm on the previous thread that concludes that the 'police surgeon' was involved in the disappearance of the girl who police say died in an unrelated murder. The problem with police theories so far is that the police may have more motive to...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    A lot of things about this case don't look right, a few more things then I'll drop it for a while. 1) It seems like a really rare crime to beat somebody until their brains are coming out of their skull. It's not a common murder scenario probably. And yet here is another one from the same...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    Bittrolff's lawyer, a former Suffolk prosecutor, seems to somehow be connected to every case that could threaten Spota... And it always ends in Spota's favor... Why would Bittrolf willingly let somebody in that position be his lawyer in a case like that? Dna evidence is certainly hard to fake...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    Not clear on this. http://riverheadnewsreview.timesreview.com/2014/07/56456/cops-manorville-man-charged-in-two-cold-case-murders/ and http://www.indyeastend.com/Articles-SAND-IN-MY-SHOES-i-2017-07-12-125344.113117-THE-COP-WHO-TRACKED-A-COLD-CASE-KILLER.html Honestly, does somebody need a...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    Getting back to the Bittrolff case briefly, it's interesting that the same detectives that 'solved' the Tankleff solved another case with odd similarities to the murder Bittrolff was convicted of...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    When he was arrested he was owed several hundred thousand dollars for unused holidays etc. His salary was ridiculously high. He probably had some financial interest in the recreational drug industry as well as who knows what other financial projects. *advertiser censored* of any kind would not be that...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    The big difference between regular gangsters and police is that if you force each to do their job properly, the regular gangsters cause mayhem and the police counteract that. Unfortunately there is no easy way to force the police to do their jobs properly. I do think it is likely that...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    There is a lot of corruption in the histories of the people involved in prosecuting him, but it isn't clear yet if there is any 'corruption' element to this trial. It seems like the simplest thing to simply have a very detailed history of the dna evidence in this case. It was taken from the...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    I understand that the consensus seems to be that Bittrolff is guilty. Is there some evidence other than the dna? Or has the dna that was in the database shown to be the same as the dna taken from the bodies? Or is it considered inappropriate to suggest that the police may have monkeyed with...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    Interesting that Robert Baumann, who seems to have been careless with the evidence in the Tankleff case, was asked to do this case. Also a person can't help wondering if McReady was involved in the Rita Tangredi case. He would have been a homicide detective in Suffolk around that time...
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    Federal Indictment: James Burke, Former Suffolk Co PD Chief, December 2015 - #3

    I agree that the sooner they are released the better the chances. As for whether they were recorded, if you call a Chinese restaurant to order takeout there is a 20% chance you are recorded. If you call dmv to renew something there is a 95+% chance you are recorded. If you call a police...
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    Federal Indictment: James Burke, Former Suffolk Co PD Chief, December 2015 - #3

    It certainly seems like the fbi would have access to the tape and the ability to release it... Who would be the specific person who decided not to release the tape, and would they have given a reason? It seems reasonable that some parts of it might not be suitable for public consumption but...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    Marble, let me clarify a few things. Both the prosecution and the defense in any case, including this case, would prefer to rely on the hardest facts rather than leave doubts. So for any "hard fact" there is a strong benefit to either the prosecution or the defense. There should never be...
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    NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

    Regarding... "how and why his DNA ended up in the system if it was a frame job" It's something that has to be investigated. I don't have the answer. "Why not one of the other 100" Again, I don't know. But if I were a person wanting to set somebody up for those killings, I would choose a) a guy...

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