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Ah right I see what's happened now. You didn't know how to quote the post so you copied and pasted, I couldn't work it out before.

I'm confused even more now. What does all that mean?

450-500 miles. Aberdeen and back possibly.

Perfectly normal no? I'd expect representation for him there.

That is one of the misconceptions. He wasn't known by all. Some of the locals hadn't seen him before. That was from a TV interview.

Maybe. Maybe he just wore them because of the weather and he was out and about in fields etc to stop him getting wet, like they are intended for.

This really wasn't my idea of what the waterproof trousers were. I took it to mean that they were waterproof overtrousers as opposed to some sort of waders.

I doubt it. I think we may have heard a lot more about it if that was an angle.

What significance are the waterproof trousers? Are you thinking that he was going to use these to go in to the water?

This is the south side of the Dyfi Bridge and only maybe 30 yards at the very most from it. He's walking towards the bridge. The Edwards reported seeing him on the North side of the bridge around 200 yards along from the bridge, walking towards Machynlleth

If the 'van' is used as a people transporter instead of a goods transporter then they generally have windows all round.

I guess it is down to each individuals perception, but to me vans are flatter at the front compared to cars and I would guess that they could be described as the same height all the way along as opposed to cars where there is a definite bonnet. There are at least couple of older style vans that...

Sounds to me like that was a description used to determine if it was possibly a van or a car that the witness had seen.

I wouldn't think it would have been a major struggle for her. She was a 5-year-old kid, they climb all over the place. Don't know what part the cerebral palsy effecting her hands would have played in this though.

I'm in agreement with your post earlier about needing to read things properly and to make account for perception and fabrication. It seems you may be guilty yourself. The witness I think you refer to in the DM article isn't a witness to the act but the father of a witness. This could easily...

So the closest we have to a quote from a witness is the Daily Mirror article with 'We saw man with bin bag near the river' Would that be right? Remember, the Telegraph was the one that copied the article from the Daily Mirror.

There's no witness that says it was MB in the car that drove off with AJ either. At least not as far as we know :)

There is nothing in anything you have posted to suggest a reason that he cannot claim innocence. Just because there are witnesses, we don't know what they witnessed.

Yes. But all to frequently you hear the words '...to run concurrently'. Another one that is all to frequent is '...sentenced to life in prison, and ordered to serve at least nn years' Substitute nn for any low figure number. It's ridiculous.

Eye witness to what exactly? We don't know the full details of what these eye witnesses were witness too.