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I have more experience of a controlling abusive relationship than you could possibly imagine. I simply have a different opinion than you. :(

That is very fair, clearly then his feelings for Reeva were not as great as for this girl.

Yes, I agree, then it would be a fair conclusion to say he was less I to her than she was into him.

I fully respect your view, even if I don't agree. As I said before I think Oscar is guilty, I just don't think it was an abusive relationship, or even that Oscar was less invested (based on the absence of a card - based on that presumption I would have to conclude my husband does not love me...

I'm open to hearing how I should look at it. :)

I'm not surprised at anything people do, as I said I've witnessed much and been on the receiving end of much too, and I'm very sorry for anyone who has had to endure that, it stays with you forever.

I grew up trapped between two people who were in a horrendously destructive, abusive and violent relationship, (and was subjected to emotional abuse myself ) so believe me I'm not ignorant about these scenarios at all. However, I simply disagree THAT THE EVIDENCE TENDERED IN THE CASE points to...

It was a very young relationship, they had no commitments together as of yet, no children, not dependant on each other financially, no reason to stay if you didn't want to, and Reeva had been in a bad relationship before, so would have had some wisdom there. As to him not saying he loved her via...

Doesn't the message in the Valentines card at least cast doubt on the idea that this was an abusive, non loving relationship? Reeva was a beautiful, sucessful, financially independent woman, she could have been involved with almost anyone she wanted, I'm certain..to cast her as somehow trapped...

I think it most likely that Oscar is guilty, and I believe he will be found to be so, but I'm horrified at Nels tactics, does he want to see Oscar convicted or his complete mental disintegration?.

Shane, I'm intrigued by your posts about Pistorius,you mentioned something lying at the heart of his problems, please explain more if you can (I understand if not!).

Did anyone notice that in the programme the mother caught the little girl masturbating openly, publically in the back of the car? Something discussed elsewhere on the board in relation to this case I remember, something that had been an issue within the R family.

I watched this, VERY interesting, three things stood out for me about the girl: 1. Lack of emotion/empathy. 2.Inapropriate sexual behaviour : a.focused on self - masturbating in public b.focused on sibling - perpetrates cruel sexual behaviour on sibling. 3. Rage and desire to hurt/...

Thanks Koldkase, I appreciate the answer. I had seen the photos of the mucous before, but I guess I didn't think of it as being bloody enough to leave a bloody mark on a pillow, if you see what I mean? I assumed it was more dilute than it clearly was. I can't quite process how this fits...

I have a question please, if there was no bleeding from the head wound (I don't remember reading there was) where did the blood on JBR's pillow come from?

Yes, we see through a glass darkly, at best, at the moment.

Thats a fair point ciela. I don't have the autopsy info to hand, but I do know from years of reading here (but only recently posting), that JB's hymen was eroded in such a way that it was thought did show prior sexual abuse to that night, and possibly repeated prior sexual abuse. As to the...

I'm not saying that it did happen, and I'm not saying if it did happen, or if thats what they thought as it happened, that it wasn't twisted and skewed and totally off the scale of all understandable decency..of course it was, I'm just trying to think how they might have seen it. If the...

Dodie, I posted this on another thread, I wondered if it might shed a different light on things for you. .

Would it be ok to post this in another thread? (if so, which would be most appropriate?) I would love to hear some discussion/opinion on this. Thanks! xx