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  1. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #41

    Honestly, I keep waiting for a statement from LVD about her sadness about finding her kids. (Don't beat me up guys) I just mean something to the effect of I am deeply saddened at learning confirmation of the deaths. Just something, even through her Attorney acknowledging that yes she has...
  2. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    Forgive again - I am pages behind but if moving "jurisdictions" was a factor in their plotting & planning then isn't that in Bonneville county? So that would be Fremont, Madison & Bonneville counties to spread their tricks between (let alone all the other States/cities). Maybe it was all a...
  3. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    Please forgive - I am pages behind. I am so sorry to hear of Foxfire's passing - very sad. Somewhere I remember something being mentioned about one of the players in this circus being encouraged to "move to Ammon due to jurisdiction" sort of comment. I am not sure if it was from a MSM or where...
  4. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    Pls forgive as I am a few pages behind but was watching Court TV - talking about Federal charges as those could apply if they transported the kids across states, took them to YNP (as it was a National park - federal), and those could be in addition to what the State brings. Also they...
  5. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    We all remember our first case here at WS (I am sure) and many of us feeling the same way.
  6. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    Wow! Great first post! Welcome to WS Kamyria! Looking forward to hearing more of your thoughts about this case.
  7. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    Agreed - it would be the last thing on my mind if my children suddenly went missing too! I would be right there waiting for them to come home while sending out tons of troops to help me find them. (but that is just me)
  8. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    I wholeheartedly agree with you but to be fair, I think they secretly live among you (at least that has kind of been the warning from people who are speaking up after realizing how crazy it is). It would be very difficult to recruit mainstream LDS folks into this type of thinking so that...
  9. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    I wish I could say that with confidence. It is up to individuals to uphold the legal process - and that could then be dependent on who is interpreting the law. Sadly, I have been disappointed in too many cases during my (our) tenure here. OT: Good to see all my friends again from so many cases!
  10. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    it is in our timeline ID - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE* NO DISCUSSION
  11. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    Well we know some of this has been done in other LDS offshoots as well (ie: Warren Jeffs, Kingston group, etc) from news in the past. I know I read where CD believed they needed to prepare for their following - would this be one way they might chose too? Under the guise of "bleeding the beast"...
  12. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    Good point - I have never had a storage unit and that would have never crossed my mind. Still with such personal items (ie: blankets with kids photos) and missing kids seems so risky. Why not burn it all in CD's big fire pit?
  13. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    Good point! And we know AC took ZP's last name (at least it has been reported) which seems to be a huge leap for me to change my entire "identity" for a spouse that I am "all business" with during a quickie wedding in Vegas. Was there an underlying plot plan of going from city to city and...
  14. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    Good point in that remember what (one of the Melanie's) that she didn't remember what she learned from CD or if it was from podcasts, or from LDS as it all kind of ran together? (South) Eastern Idaho has a very high population of LDS folks, and as some have suggested - maybe a high population of...
  15. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    Clearly the world is ending in July - all they did was buy time since they have been questioned by LEO about these kids.
  16. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    Yes and in fact Dateline used social media directly at CD. Something to the effect of "CD you didn't think we would be back? We are right here following this case." It was released the day after the kids remains were found.
  17. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    Which is interesting because it appears that LVD used language to distance herself from her bond with her children. (ie: JJ turning into zombie) and it appears tried to make herself believe they deserved to die. I wonder if CD felt that way with TD. I mean no disrespect but as quick as...
  18. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

    And not to mention what couple have you ever met that just got married and didn't want to live with each other? ZP had to wait for the right answer about marrying AC - she must have got an answer but it appears to be "just do it for the paper" sort of answer she received.

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