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I think it's your opinion that he was harrassing anyone. It's certainly mine that nothing in the trial proved that.

I guess I'll never understand how he had all this 'ill will' and determination to stop TM but yet the first thing he did was not get out of his car to follow TM, it was to call NEN and stay on the phone with NEN. I'll never understand how he's this criminal mastermind who thought all this up...

All I know is at this point, nobody is going to change their mind. IMO I believe the man is innocent because I think he was in fear. I believe this based on the evidence. There is no piece of evidence that shows that GZ wasn't on his back, yelling for help. All these other details, whether...

FYI wftv poll yesterday had 75% thronging it would be a NG verdict, same as CA for conviction.

Hoping the jurors do the right thing, look at the fact and evidence and give the only correct verdict, an acquittal . I have faith in this jury.

Sure, there is no proof of instigation by GZ.

Well, again that's on the state, they put his statements out there instead of not putting his statements out there and letting him get on the stand to give his version.

If it's a 2nd degree murder conviction, can we agree to stop following Florida trials? :floorlaugh:

Demonstrating is one thing, causing someone to fear for their life is another. Yes this also applies to CA (which I know is an unpopular comment).

Went with NG because I have faith the jury will remove emotion and look at the facts and evidence. I would not be surprised by a hung jury or manslaughter though. A 2nd degree murder conviction is akin to the NG verdict in the CA trial IMO.

That's another thing people are forgetting. I think if he does get convicted, this case is very ripe for appeal.

Two different people for the defense said as much. The state had their opportunity to put someone on to dispute that. They didn't.

It's in the statute. If someone is on top of you, trying to hurt you, you can have reasonable fear. Who are you (or I) to determine how any one individual perceives fear, especially one who does not normally get into fights?

They also said the jury took notes pretty much the entire time MOM was up there and at the end of the day, that's what matters. I agree, you can't predict a jury.

So he changes aspects of the story. The core of the story itself has not changed though. They even hooked him up to a machine and he passed (I'm pretty sure of this). Is it not normal to change certain things because you can't remember them clearly (for good reason IMO)?

You don't need to receive any injuries to be in fear of your life.

But he did testify. The state played all his interviews. Why should he have to get on the stand after that. Blame the state for introducing all of that so that GZ didn't have to testify.

BBM Who testified to this? About his laid back nature? As a matter of fact, I don't recall any testimony talking a lot about TM the person.

One instance that happened something like 8 years ago. Good try I guess. Was he preying on the ATF officer too when he was helping his friend? Too bad nobody else testifying to how bad of a person GZ was. At least I never heard any state witness testify to that.

Yes. I may not have agreed with the verdict, but the verdict is what it is.