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Hi Karinna, I am just watching episode 9 again, Dassey in court. I am bloody furious. He is clearly lying. But back to our debate, my point was mainly around the fact that if you are innocent, you say to your lawyer, 'Hey, ****** what people are saying about me, I can be tested in front of...

I have spent 10 months of my life, checking the court records, listening to the interviews & reading up on the facts of this case. Whilst I appreciate there are other cases around the world that are equally as thought provoking, this one has me gripped due to the fact many people have not put...

Italica & Bold by me.

As much as I enjoy reading these threads, I am going to say something contentious here. Can anyone, point to any factual evidence that the death of Teresa was at the hands of anyone else that is currently not serving a prison sentence for it? MaM raised some very good questions about the...

Hi Karinna, I know that corruption exists, but in this particular case, I just see some bumbling by investigators and nothing more. Don't forget, everyone on the Avery Salvage Yard was interviewed. As for the phone calls Teresa was receiving? Well, there is no concrete proof that any number...

BIB by me in response - and a note below. So on the set up theory. If not someone on that Yard, then who did kill Teresa? No evidence points anywhere else. The defence team already said it was not the Police that killed her, that would be so far fetched as to be seriously damaging to anyones...

No apology needed, I understand that there are very strong views on both sides and I can assure you, I have had much worse in the past. :crazy: Yes I did see the snippet of the interview with Kelly on MaM, but the makers wanted to mislead everyone into thinking he was being hard done to...

His rebuttal of the original MaM was refreshing IMHO. He makes some very valid points in this broadcast, although I would have to say that he does intertwine facts with his opinion, something I think we are all guilty of. That said, I firmly believe that Brendan Dassey will not be getting out...

Hi Missy1974, Sorry I have been on away from this due to work & a holiday, so am just catching up. I think the Police went back to BD because they were still trying to get to the bottom of the investigation, and were asking people who new all of the Avery family. I think they can tell that both...

The bits in Bold & Italics are from me :-)

Please remember BD's 'not under caution' discussion with the Police on 6th November and compare it with SA's 'not under caution discussions' on the 5 & 6th of November. These tend to get overlooked in all of this. Their stories just do not add up. It is clear to anyone that something is not...

Justiceseeker 35, I accept your points. As an Anti Theist, I cannot ask a higher being to help me if I end up either in the Dock, or on Jury service. In addition, I totally get your opinion on Dassey being targeted. My slant on that is that the prosecution knew, he knew more than he was...

Yes Dexter75, a good example of the case being handled in a way I would hope I never had to suffer from. Culhane was asked if Teresa's DNA could be found in the Garage. It was helping the Prosecution build their case. The snippets from Dassey, whether we agree or disagree on the validity of...

Yes Karinna, That is something to be explored. I am not sure it has been during the last 10 years, but if I were a defending lawyer (or whatever they are called in the US,) I would take a look down this route. That said, if not Avery & Dassey, then who? How can this be checked now? I do not...

Hi Dexter75, I have sent you a PM to apologise for taking too long to respond to your earlier message. I'm going to use your post, and then add my comments in Bold if that is ok. No apologies required. You know? It is really important that people are discussing things like this, as alluded to...

Hi Dexter75, Given I do not buy a lawsuit against a State being reason enough to motivate a couple of individuals who would not have been held personally responsible into illegal activity, my point is straight forward. If this was a set up, then it was poorly executed. There was no DNA found in...

Hi Missy1974, The point I was making was that here we have two intellectually challenged individuals (I think we agree on that,) whom LE are trying to get some details from. I'm not LE, nor a Lawyer and have zero experience in investigating crime, apart from on Websleuths. :-) That said, a...

Hi Sinsaint, The reason for suggesting that people listen at the same time as reading the first interviews, is because from my perspective, (and I admit I am not professionally trained,) I would get the impression they were both lying. If you listen to the recordings, you will hear the car...

So here is a dilemma CoolJ, Let us both assume for one minute they are both guilty. Would we want them to get away with Murder because the way the case was prosecuted was poor? Jails are full of innocent people, I get that, however, in this case, the chances of it being a set up are off the...

Hi Dexter, Cheers for the response. We disagree and that is a good thing as it is making us both think, :-) I'm not going to respond to your thoughts on LE being judgemental, as I reckon we are saying the same thing. (It is what they do.) Do you buy the $36M Lawsuit stuff? Was every Police...