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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    Innocent of murder yes. This Donmack piece is all about him knowing it was Reeva. That's dead and gone but it won't stop it coming up again and again. Oh dear. Yawn.
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    I do. I reached that opinion before Masipa did and wasn't shy about expressing it either :D
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    I don't know whether they specialise in sensational celebrity stories if that's what you're asking. If you get one of the "unnamed sources" into court then I'd be interested in what they had to say under oath. It's interesting, for example, that so many rejected Mr EVDM evidence as it was only...
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    The same way the judge did.
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    Who said my view is based on that one occasion? Pardon me for saying but you seem to have a rather naive outlook on the way these things work. Once again, I'd rather deal with the evidence from the court not the evidence from the tabloids.
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    I don't know how much experience you have had with the press but let me tell you about one experience I had. Firstly let me say that the truth must tread a precarious path on its way into print but that's not to say that any manipulation is necessarily deliberate or nefarious. I was closely...
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    I don't think I'm supporting anyone just deciding what's been proved - it is a thread about legal matters after all. It is only the process of the SA courts that interests me. It could be OP or Mr X, I honestly and truly don't care.
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    I don't know, I've never experienced such a situation involving my own family. I have seen people who have though and I know they can occasionally act in rather odd ways. I have usually assumed them to be acting in response to an emotionally charged situation and quite innocently.
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    Unless the media and a murder trial is somehow unrepresentative of a persons character then I agree with you. He does appear self centred and selfish. How unusual that is for a celebrity I don't know. I also don't know how reliable an indicator it is of being a murderer.
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    When accepted by the judge that expert opinion becomes fact whether it's an exact science or not. BTW If you ever find an "exact" science then please let me know.
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    I don't know what she believes now, this far down the line. On the night I can easily believe that thoughts of a crime were far from her mind. You seem to think they were/are religious people. Don't "they" have a tendency to cling on to beliefs well-past their sell-by date? I'm no expert mind...
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    Your brother just shot his girlfriend to death by mistake and you believe him 110%. What murder scene? Hindsight. Armchair thinking. You have no idea what that experience is like.
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    Something incriminating CP in an unrelated issue and exactly why she said she took the bag. She believed and still believes it was an accident and as far as she was concerned no "crime" had been committed. In such an emotionally charged situation she made a bad decision. Why does it have to be...
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    In my experience as far as trials are concerned a "fact" becomes a fact when the judge accepts expert opinion and no higher court says otherwise. So it's a fact. An "inconvenient truth" to use the common vernacular.
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    You think they were both aware at the time that OP knew it was Reeva he was murdering?
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    Incriminating for who? CP or OP? Or anyone else? We just don't know. It is a shame there aren't more photos of people doing naughty things. I can only think of the ones where the policeman was plugging in his phone and the policeman who was in the room where he should have been. Its also a...
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    I agree DE is the unlawful killing of anyone. Foreseeing and reconciling the unlawful death of another. But if subjectively there is perceived lawfulness then there may not be murder DE. This perceived lawfulness does not depend on the victim's identity either but it can depend on who the...
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    Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #70 *Appeal Verdict*

    I don't see the problem with identity. For determination of DE once the potential victim has been identified as human then further refinement of identity cannot matter. Subjectively for determination of lawfulness identity does matter insofar as the threat is concerned. The problem arises in...

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