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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Previously in this thread, someone stated that Mrs. Gosch had stated that there had been discussion between Johnny and his father and mother about his being permitted to do his route alone and that Mr. Gosch had been in favor and Mrs. Gosch opposed. What follows is the link to the short version...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Thank you very much. Apparently there is at least one more camp of that name in Maine: http://www.campcaribou.com/ This camp was established in 1922 and looks quite ritzy. Such an environment (I don’t mean this camp in particular) would seem a breeding grounds for perverts, and if...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    He must have been a very patient stalker. He got up at five in the morning or so every day for God knows how long thinking: “One of these days they’re going to let the kid go out alone.” He certainly must have had his heart set on this one kid, a kid who didn’t even...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Well, maybe the lighting is making the boy’s complexion appear darker to me than what it had been in fact. You are right about the difference in lips; Johnny’s, like his features in general, were thicker than this boy’s. Also, the nose to me seems like a dead giveaway...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    I don’t mean to be name-calling. I am simply incredulous. This point has nothing whatsoever to do with conspiracy theories or what happened to Johnny Gosch. It concerns trusting one of one’s physical senses; i.e., one’s eyesight. Look at the photos of the boy on Mrs...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    That’s a very astute, careful observation on your part. Just for the sake of argument, dismiss the organized pedophilia ring with ties to the C.I.A and the White House as the usual rants of conspiracy theory nuts; and dismiss the photos as not being of 5’ 7”, 140 lbs...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    That’s exactly what I have been saying, except the photos have nothing to do with some sinister, organized pedophilia ring of certain parties’ imagination. The original photos Mrs. Gosch received were taken, just as a police investigator remembers and the anonymous letter to the...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Mr. E and anyone interested: After my last post, an afterthought occurred to me. For those who believe that the photos on Mrs. Gosch’s website are of her son and others in the grasp of some demonic, organized pedophilia ring, did it ever occur to you to wonder what the purpose of...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    If there is another photo of a different kid in the same setting as the first three boys (and I’ll take your word for it as I don’t want to go wading through them again on her website), it is explained within my last post. Who sent Mrs. Gosch the original photos? I’m betting it was the man who...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    This is what I had been alluding to in my first post. The fact that Johnny had been such a big kid combined with the strange coincidence of his having gone missing the very day that had been his first day out alone on his route, makes me wonder if any alternate theory to pedophilia has ever...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Mr. E, Thank you for your response. Mrs. Gosch actually alleges her ex-husband, the boy’s own father, sold him into sexual slavery? I take it theirs was not an amicable divorce. What’s the story regarding her alleging that Mr. Gosch had several times passed another woman...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    Well, despite the ocean of metaphorical ink thus far spilled over this case, no one has answered my questions in my last post. Perhaps you are all pooped discussing the case, which I can understand. However, I shall try posing one more simple question. Has anyone commented on the seeming...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, West Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 #4

    On another note about a kid who had been murdered in 1981 who had been a paperboy (although in that case it seems irrelevant), I noted that I was unfamiliar with the Johnny Gosch case. Therefore, I looked it up. I realized that I had, of course, heard of it as it is one of the most celebrated...
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    CO CO - Eric Hope, 12, Lakewood, 23 Oct 1981

    Thank you for the geographical information regarding the Denver area. I have suggested my theory of the crime to someone in a position to pass it on to the Denver PD. I don’t know, and will probably never know, if he did pass it on or simply blew it off. At this stage, I don’t see...
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    CO CO - Eric Hope, 12, Lakewood, 23 Oct 1981

    Well, this note and case has generated little interest which is, unfortunately, understandable. Given the scanty information provided on the denverpost.com cold case page, any thoughts on catching this monster, if still alive, or at least solving the case if not, would amount to rank...
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    CA - Two women & 3 children found murdered, Bakersfield, 6 July 2003

    As an addendum to points I made in my last post, I wanted to say that I have long favored the introduction of a third type of verdict in criminal cases. In addition to guilty and not guilty verdicts, I think the jury should have the option of voting “not proven.” A not proven verdict would...
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    CA - Two women & 3 children found murdered, Bakersfield, 6 July 2003

    In regard to the alleged eyewitness to Brothers’s presence, I did not even hear him mentioned on the program. However, I read elsewhere that he lacked credibility both because of the drinking and the length of time he had waited to come forward. In regard to the insect evidence on...
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    CA - Two women & 3 children found murdered, Bakersfield, 6 July 2003

    Although I’m certain this case has been discussed previously, I’m new here and I also just became familiar with the case after it was recently featured on a network crime show. I am very conservative and very much favor “law and order.” I also adamantly favor...
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    WA - Candice “Candy” Rogers, 9, Spokane, 6 March 1959 *suspect died*

    Yes, this is certainly tragic. It also upsets my worldview. I didn’t think such things occurred during my beloved Leave it to Beaver days, which I so often wistfully yearn for. I thought all this came in with 1968. Apparently, I was wrong. I suppose I have romanticized the times with...
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    CO CO - Eric Hope, 12, Lakewood, 23 Oct 1981

    I'm afraid you're right, Lyn. There are so many possible scenarios with the limited information supplied. I just went through some of them as speculation. I just hope that one day the police crack the case. Imagine how this little fellow felt in his final moments. Imagine how his mom felt the...

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