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    Discussion between the verdict and sentencing

    I heard some poll in SA showed almost 80% of SA being angry with her. Its a shame there's basically no poster here from SA, would be lovely to hear whats actually happening down there.
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    Discussion between the verdict and sentencing

    I remember Greenland getting exasperated with the female umm interviewer/anchor (whom i find annoying).
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    Discussion between the verdict and sentencing

    Thanks, i surely hope someone interviews judge greenland about this, only his reasoned response could calm me down.
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    Discussion between the verdict and sentencing

    I'd like more information as to the real sentiment of the south africans. From public newspeople, they use safe language like 'their dissapointed' but boy i hear some serious anger when for example Masipa needs security because of so much angry people writing angry letters to her. And judge...
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    Discussion between the verdict and sentencing

    Has there been any video or talk from judge greenland on Masipa's verdict?
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    Discussion between the verdict and sentencing

    I don't usually like appealing to public as that has been very bad in alot of cases, but in this case, i pray to god the legal system has a 2nd look at Masipa's ruling on account of serving the public interest (because everyones pissed off).
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    Discussion between the verdict and sentencing

    When even judge greenland is angry, that shows your doing something wrong.
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    I think the biggest reason for the uproar is that Masipa really did have the EASIEST case imaginable, with the best state prosecutor and the most ineffective Defense experts. Consider, Even on Pistorius' version, we know he admitted KILLING whoever was behind the bathroom door, in...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    The problem i have with Masipa is that she arbitrarily goes from logical deduction and application and law, WHERE IT SUITS PISTORIUS, and then arbitrarily hands out judgement without clear explanation (or in this case of eventualis faulty application) where it suits pistorius. The law in this...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    no, i think masipa is the type of judge we all dread. One that is driven by emotion and not logic. The fact she thinks Oscar is innocent LITERALLY because he had a cry afterwards, speaks volumes. I don't mean to be insulting, but when a female judge reinforces this sad stereotype of...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    Masipa has totally tarnished her reputation as well as the justice system. I can understand the anger of so many prominent legal experts like judge Greenland, she basically represented them to SA and the law, and, she represented them as faulty in the extreme in judgement, so much so, that to a...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    Funny, i heard she hands out tough punishments for rape victims, bordering on things like 200+ years of jailtime, but when a woman is killed in circumstances that are so obvious it was intentional, at best Pistorius might get 15 years. Disheartening that she, a woman, just reinforces that...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    TLDR post. Majorly dissapointed in Masipa, it is not even that she made perhaps incorrect interpretation of law that is vague or ambiguous, it is that even to a layperson, her rationales comes across as plain stupid. 1. Dismissing state eyewitnesses and experts, the rationale seems to be of...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #53 - 14.12.9, Day 42 ~ final verdict~

    welp justice system has failed once again. Glad the trial of the century for my lifetime showed me whether to trust the justice system.
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    Trial Discussion Thread #52 - 14.11.9, Day 41 ~announcement of the verdict~

    He comes from old money, maybe socially people will give him crap, but he wont lack for food, shelter or luxury. And there won't be a lack of girls willing to be attached to someone with old money.
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    Trial Discussion Thread #52 - 14.11.9, Day 41 ~announcement of the verdict~

    If your going to throw out eyewitness testimony (excuse me only state witnesses) because its a live trial. Why don't you issue an order that the trial shouldn't have any eyewitness testimony? sure would save a bucketload of time and harassment for the witnesses themselves. My respect of...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #52 - 14.11.9, Day 41 ~announcement of the verdict~

    The main problems i have with Masipa. 1. Throwing out eyewitness testimony wholesale I just don't see how you can do that. 2. Accepting Oscar's version because she believes no one could make up a lie so fast and Stipp (or whoever) saw him crying and thought it was genuine. This compounds (1)...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #51 - 14.11.9, Day 41 ~announcement of the verdict~

    Thanks for confirming your clear contradiction of your own position.
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    Trial Discussion Thread #51 - 14.11.9, Day 41 ~announcement of the verdict~

    But you are talking about Reeva because in your statement you tied it to Pistorius and you believing him. So you believe we can kill intruders in our house, ok, if its a child thief, is it ok? If no, you got some mental gymnastics to perform. If yes, does this also to extend hungry child...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #51 - 14.11.9, Day 41 ~announcement of the verdict~

    Reeva is an intruder? I thought the excuse you can kill an intruder, usually needs to be that you know, it is an intruder, at least.

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