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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    Re: the informant rumor -- The rumor is that DR is a police informant. The rumor has (as far as I can tell) been perpetuated by one single commenter. Nothing about what the commentator is saying seems credible, therefore I think they're just causing trouble for fun. That same commenting thread...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #10

    There are numerous blogs/comments on articles/forums online suggesting that JW's facebook (which was public when this all started, but made private subsequently) indicates that he and LS had (temporarily?) split up (or, at the very least, had some sort of argument) a few days before she went...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #9

    If she's a bar manager and her story was that she saw them on her way home after closing up, she couldn't possibly have seen them at 2:38 (i.e., when the bar was still open).
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #9

    Umm... I think he said a lot more than "it's not visible on video, so we can't confirm". I think it's clear that whatever supposedly happened at 3:38 *should* have been on video, but was not (or at least, LS was not part of whatever was on video). He did not just say the 3:38 sighting was...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #9

    Completely agree. Any 3:38 sighting-related speculation or mystery man-related speculation should be dead.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #9

    I think he was a little confusing because he was trying to avoid confirming/denying things he didn't want to confirm/deny... However, he definitely confirmed that (1) the video evidence is inconsistent w/ the timing of the witness' reported 3:38 sighting and (2) LS is never (at any time) seen w/...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #9

    I chased one of the comments on TG's site and found this news article: http://www.wthr.com/story/7765853/iu-closes-fraternity-for-hazing?clienttype=printable&redirected=true Of import, in describing why AEPi was kicked off campus in 2008: "(There were) incidents of individuals being taken out...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #9

    Mods, I don't know to what extent we're allowed to comment on repeated rumors outside the MSM if such rumors indirectly implicate our theory of the crime... So, if this is not allowed, please let me know/delete. That said, the quotes on the IDS page and Tony Gatto's article illuminate another...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #9

    Thanks for this. I think that some of the confusion of the MSM -- and possibly LE -- at the beginning is that everyone was conflating CR and JR. LS was seen all over town with CR, goes home with CR, etc, so naturally everyone thinks "LS was with CR that night." It later comes out via MB (and(?)...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #9

    I wondered that too... but I don't think it's so far fetched that he would want a drunk/high/passed out/worse girl out of his room before he faced any questions. Especially if (1) he had taken advantage of her, (2) he had provided the drugs, (3) she was vomiting or otherwise sick and he didn't...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #9

    Re: Polygraphs -- I don't think there is anything in the professional media (MSM or blog as opposed to comments/social network stuff) about who passed the polygraph, if MB took more than one polygraph, etc. The only thing I've seen is that the MSM reported that someone who was one of the last...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #8

    But that really doesn't make that much sense if we believe everything else we're told... LS avoids watching the game w/ JW when it's actually on/she's just hanging around, but then goes to watch it on DVR w/ semi-random people in another dorm after midnight? That's strange, to say the least and...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #8

    Sorry, the wrong bit of your post is quoted above, but you are completely correct in your bolded notation to my post: it was Game 2, but at the time/in the place noted in my post (9-12 (at the latest) in Miami, so same time zone as Indiana).
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #8

    I also just joined the forum (I came across it following Lauren's case) and just have a few random thoughts that I wanted to note: (1) I assume that the basketball game that JW was watching was the first game of the NBA finals. The game was in Miami and started at 9, so it should have been...

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