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In my area, everything goes to the incinerator. Trash to energy. I tend to forget that other places still have landfills.

Or they know who's car it is, and want to know if the owner was stalking the house previous to the murders.

On the other hand, this route works if instead of the killer driving, it's accomplice coming to pick them up. If both had burner phones, killer could have been dropped off earlier, then called to get picked up after he's done. Assuming killer doesn't live within quick walking distance, it would...

And my thinking is just the opposite. IMO, bag up the bloody clothes, knife or whatever and then dump it in a dumpster a dozen miles from the crime scene. Preferably one that's fairly full of messy stuff - restaurant maybe - and that you know will be emptied soon. Even better if the trash goes...

Driver picking the murderer up, perhaps?

Is there definitely an archive? There was a serious accident on a known problematic section of highway near me some years back. It turned out the camera was a live traffic condition observation camera that didn't record at all.

On the other hand, the second person might well have the worst injuries. First person is easy, especially if they're sleeping on their back. Knife to the heart or throat. Simple and quick. Except the second person wakes up. They fight back. Maybe try to roll off the far side of the bed. Now...

Not disagreeing with that, but it does seem that dispatchers would have some way of cluing in responding officers that they're headed to the scene of a blood bath and not just someone who passed out. Even if the message is coded, or they just send multiple officers.

Do we know what the four victims were studying? Were any of them taking a class/classes that might have brought them into contact with dangerous people? (Mostly thinking law or psych classes. Social services? I mean, there are cases where people have gotten killed because they got in the middle...

Assuming you knew they borrowed it. If the car was 'borrowed' from a parking garage or even from an elderly person who didn't drive at night, it could have been returned a couple hours later leaving the owner with no idea it was ever gone.

They might have called E's brother, thinking or knowing that he had the pass code. If they got the door open during the 911 call, that would certainly account for confusion and the phone being passed around.

Considering how close they were, might M have been on K's family cell phone plan.

The main thrust of the police statement re the car is that they want info on driver and occupants the day of or shortly before the murders. Everything else seems to be more or less an afterthought. One would think they'd be interested in anyone that had seen such a car -since- the murders. IMO...

If there was someone LE was suspicious of, and they felt the murders were something that was recently triggered, rather than planned way ahead, then the killer might have recently bought the knife. Unfortunately, I fear the police may initially had tunnel vision regarding an individual, and then...

I have a slightly different theory regarding the doors. I believe doors were locked to keep party goers out of personal areas. Downstairs roommates were first to arrive home and go to bed. They had no idea if the others were bringing people back to the house, so they locked up. The others all...

The could have been open that morning with no relation to the murders. One of the downstairs roommates could have run out to the car to get something. If the dog was sleeping down there, one could have let the dog out, then gone back to bed.

If it does turn out that the car was stolen to commit the murders, then in my opinion, then the murder was done to shut someone up. The additional deaths might be because they eere in the way, or because the target might have shared info with them. Accorfing to family, K was interested in true...

That was tacked on at the end. Everything else referenced driver and occupants. My guess is the car was stolen, but police don't want to give that away. If the car was stolen, the plate that was on the car might very well not have been the plate that belonged on the car.

That was tacked on at the end. Everything else referenced driver and occupants. My guess is the car was stolen, but police don't want to give that away.

There's unrelated and there's unrelated. To me, in a case like this unrelated means the drunken kids weren't involved. However, I can't see that unrelated rules out the possibility that responding officers caught something on their cameras, for instance, or even the possibility that lights and...