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  1. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    Yeah I think day one of the report they likely did not go in there on the hunt for a crime scene. Not right away.
  2. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    SP looks great, unfortunately. I know an investigator from out of state who had to go to San Quentin to escort a prisoner back to Virginia who was going to be prosecuted there for a murder. He said he saw SP and the guy looked happy, healthy, and was playing basketball with his friends, as if he...
  3. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    A combination of digital evidence as well as forensics inside her home that were not seen during a cursory search. Brain matter in and blood in the bathroom, particularly the sink/tub drains?
  4. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    This gets tricky, and varies by state. Generally when you have someone like a psychiatrist and they tell you about their desire to harm themselves or another, the psych has a duty to warn. There is a very famous case on this: Tarasoff v University of CA Regents, if anyone is interested. It's...
  5. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    Yeah definitely. Recall in CW's case, it was the defense that went to the DA for a deal after the autopsies were released to them...
  6. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    It wouldn't be conspiracy if she didn't conspire with him prior to the fact. If all she did was take the phone afterwards, even if she knew at that point that the crime had occurred, she would be an accessory after the fact.
  7. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    Very true. DP cases also end up in years and years of appeals, which is costly to the state and a renewal of pain and misery for the victims' families. It's tough. Having said that, I'm a very pro-DP prosecutor (in CA of all states - sigh), but I am also realistically aware of the fact that in...
  8. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    I wouldn't. Never in a case like this. There seems to be heavy circumstantial evidence of premeditation. This is murder 1 all the way. I am not even going to discuss involuntary manslaughter because it doesn't apply here. For a voluntary manslaughter case, would require a case where someone...
  9. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    There have been many a no-body trial where the defense really does try to point out that "we don't even know she's dead!" Doesn't work usually. Plus I think they're likely working on having her declared. I don't know this obviously.
  10. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    He's gonna wait to see if PF pleads guilty; I don't believe he's been arraigned? He's got 63 days after that to announce. At this point, the 1/29 date has been vacated and prelim is scheduled for 2/19, so he's going to have to enter his plea at some point before prelim. I thought I read...
  11. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    Im curious why you think it includes adults?
  12. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    Yeah I don't think we have a talker on our hands at all.
  13. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    Oh it's too EARLY! haha he has plenty of time! Obviously I don't know what May has or doesn't have, but if he has enough for a DP case, he can already be consulting with the Berreths to get their thoughts. Something makes me think they would be a lot like SW's family in not wanting to press...
  14. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    To clarify, it's reporting of child abuse or neglect. Not for adults.
  15. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    Well if I had decided to seek DP, I'd announce it right after arraignment. Just depends on if he's going to use it or not.
  16. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    Do we know that? It's very possible they are in the process of having her declared, since they are so certain she was killed, when she was killed, and where she was killed. And that's just what they've told the public...
  17. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    Yeah so this is what I mentioned the other day; for example, aiding and abetting is accomplice liability BUT in addition to knowing about the crime, you have to encourage it and intend for it to happen, knowing that it is illegal. Mandatory reporting laws for people like...
  18. riolove77

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

    I had a question about what claims they are making in their civil suit, yes. I haven't read it.

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