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I this is correct: Shantina did not take Azriel away....the father left him. ETA Oops. should say "IF this is correct

I thought that also. The smile seemed genuine, not fake/forced. Azriel also looked fine in the videos, ie dancing/goofing for the cameras. What happened between the time of those video's and her stop at the William's house where she was reportedly visibly upset?

That shoe is suspicious to me. May be an implication that there was someone else there that night.

Did he say it was his when he identified the other items? I don't remember that.

And WHO does the larger man's shoe belong to?? It appeared to be in the same condition as the one belonging to SS, which would indicate it went into the water at the same time.

Tunnel vision.

I would sure like to know more about the falling down at the diner. Did she trip over one of those parking space curbs? (I have done that completely sober, felt like a fool :laugh:), did she actually hit the ground? A visual of that would sure give us a better idea of her condition. imo

I'm with you.

IIRC, they did not think she was intoxicated. They said upset, looked like she had been crying. I don't believe they had cause to call police.

Has any of her family or friends been interviewed (by the media) other than her boyfriend and Aziel's father? If they have, I apologize, as I missed it. If they haven't been interviewed, why? I find that a little odd.

There are no "reports" that she somehow made a turn and ended up in a different location than Azriel, but that is absolutely possible. There are many variables as to how a body will travel in water, i.e. clothing, weight, obstacles in the water, etc. I think I read that alcohol consumption...

I believe the reason they are no longer searching is it would be like finding a needle in a haystack. They searched the area where Az turned up, but where else should they look? Look at all the shoreline between the van and where Az was found, and more shoreline beyond. Her body could be...

I so totally agree with this. And I would like to add that I am not 100% sure there was not "foul play" by a third person. There in no proof of anything as yet. What bothers me the most is the beach location. I do not believe she had been there before as the home owner seemed to be very...

Is it just me or are most of these links not working ??

The article didn't say what the circumstances were, but once one reported incidence was found valid, ALL should have been investigated. Much better to be safe than sorry, we all know.

Possible, except I don't think anyone could back down that "road" in the dark (especially impaired) and alcoholics wouldn't throw away their booze, would they? Whatever happened, I don't think there was intent.

I don't know about being there before. It was a private beach. Access was off homeowners private driveway.

I hope it was over quickly for him. ((((Azriel))))) "in the arms of Angels": Be at peace, little man.

"Fatality review" ??? How many of these 'fatality reviews" do they do? are they learning anything from them ? It seems to me that many, many children die that have previously been in the CPS system. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE !!:furious::furious::furious:

Maybe it's just me, but I think ANY and ALL complaints involving a child's welfare should be investigated. And especially if previous valid complaints had been made.