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    GUILTY NY - Bernard Madoff charged in $50 billion fraud, 2008 - dies Apr 2021

    Thanks for responding. No breed of dog is safe to leave alone with a two year old, especially a dog with NO FOOD and an incessantly crying toddler and for an extended period of time. Again, we don't know if he locked the dog away from the child or not, or if he had reason to be confident his...
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    GUILTY NY - Bernard Madoff charged in $50 billion fraud, 2008 - dies Apr 2021

    Yeah, you're right about the dog...I'm reaching about the eating part, probably. He might have locked his dog away from his son too. And yes, his lawyer probably checks his email on Saturday...at some point. Are you sure "they got each others mail in a matter of seconds"???????? Don't you...
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    GUILTY NY - Bernard Madoff charged in $50 billion fraud, 2008 - dies Apr 2021

    You are totally right and toxicology reports may indicate drugs and/or alcohol played a role also. Could a killer(s) have broken in while he was asleep and held a gun to that toddler? He might even have slipped the leash on himself thinking it was the only way to save his son. Sometimes...
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    GUILTY NY - Bernard Madoff charged in $50 billion fraud, 2008 - dies Apr 2021

    Why emails at 4 am with 2 year old sleeping? He couldn't be sure on a SATURDAY his messages would be received BEFORE the little guy woke up. Why not a PHONE CALL? He'd be gone before help arrived and he could be sure his son wouldn't be unattended except for a dog and him hanging from the...
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    GUILTY NY - Bernard Madoff charged in $50 billion fraud, 2008 - dies Apr 2021

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/bernie_madoff_son_andrew_found_dead_41QZ5xHZ2Ifq2IBmRtZgLK labradoodle named "Grouper"
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    GUILTY NY - Bernard Madoff charged in $50 billion fraud, 2008 - dies Apr 2021

    Yes! I was typing while you were posting. I thought it was hinky the minute I read his two year old son was there. When I read he was hanging from a dog leash and there was only an EMAIL alerting the mother...:waitasec:
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    GUILTY NY - Bernard Madoff charged in $50 billion fraud, 2008 - dies Apr 2021

    This is an "apparent" suicide. If it isn't, a "dog leash" might be an extra message directed to his father. An email could have been sent by Madoff at gunpoint (2 year old hostage in the house) or by a murderer afterward. If the 2 year old had been harmed...it wouldn't look like a suicide. The...
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    Cords, Knots, and Strangulation Devices

    I've been trying to figure that out too...I wondered if that was the dryer some suspect "JB's blanket with nightie clinging to it" came from because of the way it looks at the top and how high it is compared to the doorknob but it doesn't really look deep enough in the picture, does it? Where...
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    Socks? Was Jon Benet wearing them?

    UKGuy, great point! I've never used the expression...so I looked it up. zonked [zɒŋkt] adj Slang 1. (Law / Recreational Drugs) highly intoxicated from drugs or alcohol 2. utterly exhausted Words and idioms can have multiple meanings and it is easy to misunderstand someone's...
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    Out of place items in Ramsey home

    Second floor: Paring knife & Pull-ups in the laundry area. Soiled pants & balled up turtleneck found in JB's bathroom. First Floor: Flashlite on kitchen counter, bowl of pineapple, glass of tea, kleenex in breakfast room, pillow in the kitchen. Sippy cup & Johns bathrobe in the den. Basement...
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    Socks? Was Jon Benet wearing them?

    Thanks!!!!! Yes, from Gap Kids it would be velveteen and machine washable. I wanted to know for sure because if it was a DRY CLEAN ONLY silk or rayon VELVET not velveteen, PR might have been really upset because it might have been ruined. Most kids clothing is washable. But VELVET usually is not...
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    Socks? Was Jon Benet wearing them?

    I don't believe it either, Ames. I know some kids can sleep really soundly but grabbed from the car, hauled into the house, up the stairs...placed in bed, shoes removed? Maybe if she was knocked out but zonked out? Nah. This was Christmas Day...these kids had to leave their new toys behind to...
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    Out of place items in Ramsey home

    DeeDee249, thanks so much for your help. I'll be honest, I'm an IDKWT(Beep)DI. :banghead:I say the word "Beep" out loud. I try not to cuss. Ain't easy with this case. Why do people think it was the size 12 bloomies in that "partially wrapped" package? FAO Schwartz is an expensive toy store in...
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    Grandaughter! "Chi l'ha visto?" ITALIAN "Have YOU SEEN" Television Program

    Grandaughter, or other family members reading?...please look into the possibility of this ITALIAN missing person's television show running a story on your family. I think the possible Palermo connection and the "Louis Sodder" photo sent years later would be VERY intriguing to the producer and...
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    Socks? Was Jon Benet wearing them?

    PR: Well, I changed her and took the black velvet pants off and found those, those long underwear pants and put on her. Changed her (Changed her WHAT?)and took the black velvet pants off AND found those, those long underwear pants and put on her. What did she change? And took the black...
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    Socks? Was Jon Benet wearing them?

    Thanks, DeeDee249! Do you remember who said that and whether it was tights or socks underneath? Velvet or possibly velveteen? Many people don't know the difference. Velveteen is more likely to be washable...velvet dry cleaned. Were those the pants found "soiled"??? Were the pants machine...
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    Socks? Was Jon Benet wearing them?

    Thank you, UK Guy!!!! I don't remember ever reading that but I've been away from reading about the case for a long while. So much to slog through to refresh and lots more info posted. I think all of you have been doing an awesome job sleuthing here. That is helpful to know what PR "said" she was...
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    Socks? Was Jon Benet wearing them?

    txsvicki, it doesn't sound stupid to me at all. There is so much information, misinformation, theory, it is really hard to keep it all straight, isn't it? I don't remember anything at all about a pillow in the kitchen. Drawing a total blank...isn't the first time, won't be my last! You are...
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    Out of place items in Ramsey home

    What about the partially wrapped FAO Schwartz present seen in the crime scene photos? How would that fit in? I think that is really odd...here it was Christmas Day...but in the evening/night and there's a partially wrapped present by her lifeless body. What was in it? Who was it for? What did PR...
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    Out of place items in Ramsey home

    I thought it was a Swiss Army Knife she said PR took away from BR and hid in the laundry cupboard and it was found under JB? Has this been confirmed? Thanks!

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