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    What did we learn today 7-05-2011

    I spoke about this case to my sister, who is an attorney, and she thought that it was slam dunk 1st Degree Murder. Why -- the 31 days, the chloroform searches, the smell in the trunk (she believes the cadaver dogs, BTW). She stated that after KC began doing her searches, given the availability...
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    Where did the prosecution go wrong?

    I spoke about this case to my sister, who is an attorney, and she thought that it was slam dunk 1st Degree Murder. Why -- the 31 days, the chloroform searches, the smell in the trunk (she believes the cadaver dogs, BTW). She stated that after KC began doing her searches, given the availability...
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    POLL: Will George and Cindy remain together in the wake of the trial?

    I think they will stay together - from an Italian Catholic family, first of all. And, really ... is there anyone else that even begins to understand what they have been through? They are set for life, if they get a good agent and financial advisor; same for Lee. I see lots of pyschotherapy...
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    2011.06.29 Sidebar Thread (Trial Day Thirty-One)

    With KC's proclivity for spinning complicated yarns -- how did she find out about Zaneida and the Sawgrass Apts -- I imagine that she didn't know or didn't want to tell who the father was. And, she looked through obituaries and found names for other candidates. She is capable of anything.
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    2011.06.28 Sidebar Thread (Trial Day Thirty)

    I've noticed all sorts of posts, both here and at other sites, hoping that KC gets some sort of prison justice - that she gets hurt after being mixed with the general population, that sort of thing. While I think KC is guilty, I would never want her abused in prison. It goes against the...
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    2011.06.28 TRIAL Day Thirty (Afternoon Session)

    As a Floridian, I can tell you that a snake sighting always gets everyone's attention. As does a gator sighting.
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    Delay revealed-Motion to determine competency filed by defense

    I think after LA refused to admit to the sexual abuse, KC had violent emortional reaction and became impossible to deal with - crying, yelling, screaming, anger, etc. JB just ignored it, but CM realized that she needed to be put in her place. So ... well, I'll request a competency hearing...
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    2011.06.25 Sidebar Thread (Trial Day Twenty-eight)

    Agreed, see my post above for my interpretation of what happened... http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6766525&postcount=2906
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    2011.06.25 Sidebar Thread (Trial Day Twenty-eight)

    Agreed. KC, looked like she had been crying the night before, probably because of LA's non-testimony. So, the next day, she meets JB,says "I can't get a fair trial, the judge is ruling against us, the SA intimidated my brother with the objections and sidebars, they are being mean to Mom when...
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    Has the defense created reasonable doubt?

    But they are creating a confusing circus. It's going to get worse in the coming days IMO. I think they will drag GA through the mud. GA has already told one lie to protect KC - that he saw Caylee on 6/16 -- well, I think he's about to get double-crossed. That's the problem with the jury...
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    Theories On What Happened to Caylee Part #8

    Yes, for many reasons 1 - CA and Caylee visited great-grandpa and great-grandma for Father's Day and KC's stealing was discussed. This, in my opinion, caused a fight which triggered the killing. 2 - Previously, some one mentioned (correct me if I am wrong) that GA and CA reconciled from a...
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    Theories On What Happened to Caylee Part #8

    I know -- much better to say the accidentaly drowning happened after George left for work. There's time in there for it to happen - she can say that she initially tried to get through to her parents, couldn't, and then just panicked. But, then, GA would have an alibi for disposing of the body...
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    Theories On What Happened to Caylee Part #8

    The problem here is that her lawyer talked her into a Menendez defense 3 years later and there is not one iota of proof that she was ever abused. Here's a better scenario for her; one that does have proof and would have taken all the circumstancial evidence off the table. She could have...
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    Theories On What Happened to Caylee Part #8

    ITA - I never believed that GA saw Caylee on 6/16. I always thought the death ocurred on the night of 6/15. I think KC left the house in a rage over the fight, texted Tony who reiterated that Caylee was not welcome. With no place to go and hating Caylee more than ever -- she went back home and...
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    Theories On What Happened to Caylee Part #8

    Yes ... this would be the only accident she wouldn't report, knowing that she would be considered responsible for Caylee's death -- I don't know if she knew the whole "child abuse leading to death" is a murder one in FL, but she would know she was in a lot of trouble.
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    Theories On What Happened to Caylee Part #8

    What a great summary as to why this case is so interesting. It just doesn't make sense. But, if had to choose - I go with rage killing An accident - she would have loved all the attention surrounding it and, there being no prior history of abuse and her parents on her side, she would not have...
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    Through a Juror's Eyes/What do those who haven't followed the case believe? (Merged)

    Wow -- so the State's case is not a slam dunk; surely, this is not a surprise to the Websleuthers. As someone who believes that KC fantasized about killing Caylee; that she killed her in a fit rage at the thought she would be kicked out of the house and CA would take custody of her baby; and...
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    Where Precisely Do You Think Caylee Died?

    She could have thrown the pants in the dumpster at Amscot if they smelled that bad - proably wanted to get quikcly.
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    Where Precisely Do You Think Caylee Died?

    I agree, it could be the fight made KC angry at her parents engaging in some serious parenting. But the rage was reflected at Caylee because without Calyee, Casey could slowly rebuild her life on her terms. NOT being a hard working single mom, but a more carefree single gril. Sure, she needed to...
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    Where Precisely Do You Think Caylee Died?

    She slept in because she was both exhausted from not spleeping the night before (night of the 15th) and from the stress relief from finally taking care of something she had wanted to do for a very, long time. :maddening:

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