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Erin Patterson should never be released over mushroom murders, prosecutors tell sentence appeal The Victorian director of public prosecutions is appealing Erin Patterson’s sentence because a judge erred in finding she was likely to spend “years to come” in solitary confinement when allowing for...

An article in The Conversation that explains how long a standard minimum non-parole period takes in Victoria for murder. I assume, if the standard non-parole period for one murder usually is 20 years and for more than one murder 25 years, JB could have roughly calculated 20 years non-parole for...

While, like others here, I had been hoping for LWOP, this sentence is roughly what I had expected, after Mandy had pointed out the conditions in the prison. There wasn’t really any other option available to justice Beale and it annoys me greatly, that I think EP isn’t even fazed too much by the...

Maybe some portions contained a bit more poison than others, but I doubt the portions were allocated to particular guests. Remember that each guest picked their own plate. Except for EP who probably held her unpoisoned portion back and put it on her orangey-tan plate after her guests had taken...

Yes. I think so too. No one she thinks might have done her wrong would be safe. If she really gets 30 years minimum and parole, we can only hope she’ll die in prison before being eligible for parole.

Absolutely. But that’s not going to happen. After Mandy’s plea on Monday, the current conditions at Dame Phyllis almost guarantee her parole. I just wonder how, if she really gets whatever kind of parole, they will justify that the other inmates in the Gordon unit, notorious or not, will have to...

No it’s not, but that’s not the question. I still think that Mandy will get parole for her, due to the current situation in Dame Phyllis, which I’m pretty sure hadn’t been achievable as easily, were the conditions there better or could a clearer timeline of when conditions will improve and in...

„The defence has drawn attention to the harmful conditions of prison isolation, which Patterson has endured for approximately 400 days. Supreme Court Judge Beale has said he would give “weighty consideration” to her prison conditions in determining the sentence, noting Patterson’s prison...

Very, very well worded!

Yes, but I had hoped that Simon could mention all that happened to him. As a victim of the murder of hia relatives and the relatives of his kids as well as a victim of almost having been murdered himself.

Does this mean that Simon can’t mention her alleged previous attempts to murder him even now? This poor man! „They are also forbidden from referencing other crimes an offender may have committed or been accused of in the past.“...

I’m with you that she planned to poison Simon as well. I think she just expected to get away with poisoning her in-laws, plus Ian and Heather. Just as she got away with her alleged attempts to poison Simon numerous times. I have no doubt at all that he would have killed him later on, hadn’t she...

Could it have been that she didn’t have those leftovers poisoned in the first place, but then staged that part after the meal? I mean, could it be that she had poisoned the four portions for her guests from the start, but left bw 5 and 6 without until after the meal? It has been said she was...

Well, she was used to being very successful in her true crime groups (and anywhere else, I guess) with all her made up stories, so that’s how she was sure to convince the jury as well. Didn’t go too well, though 🤷‍♀️

Yeah, you’re right. I mixed the days up.

I had to dig a bit for it, but I knew I read it somewhere: „Rogers said Patterson had told the jury she had put the Asian store-bought mushrooms in the dehydrator after noticing they were “rubbery” some time between buying them and using them. That was an “obvious lie”, Rogers said.“...

Ah thanks, I have mixed up the days.

And didn’t she also claim fairly late that the mushrooms from the Asian grocer (but conveniently, she doesn’t remember which Asian grocer exactly she got them from) were a bit rubbery, so she put them in her dehydrator to crisp them up? Didn’t she say that before she came up with the claim she...

I’m only just catching up, so maybe this has been said already. I was thinking that maybe she constructed the story of her son having a sore tummy, to support the idea that she got slightly sick as well after having eaten the leftovers. In her mind, since she said she had scraped off the...

Just trying to sort out things in my mind. Did the defence address Heather’s remark about four matching plates and one odd coloured one? At all? I believe he didn’t, because it wouldn’t have helped his argumentation that Ian’s memory was wrong when another witness remembered the same as Ian.