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True...although in an actual abusive relationship, the abuser could demand that she show up or else, etc. I was in one for years and I did all kinds of inconvenient stuff because of the threat of abondonment. But I don't believe at all that this was an actual abusive relationship so that's...

I definitely think she's making up a lot of this and portraying TA in the best way but it also seems like she could make it a LOT worse. I mean, if you're going to lie, why not go all out and make it worse than *advertiser censored* and Pollyanna? Or that he totally flipped his lid when she dated other guys...

It might just be going go show the lack of feelings. Remember they also went to a Sizzler and a truck stop for breakfast...doesn't really sound like there was much wining and dining going on...

:fence: Thank you. The double standards are making me ill. And all these cow/milk analogies are driving me nuts. :(

This really does get worse and worse. I am really surprised that he spared the case worker from being a victim too. Even though there wasn't really anything anyone could have done, I'm surprised that someone who seems like as much of a control freak as JP would leave anything to chance. And...

Regardless of the things that the DT and Casey did, this is still a BIG DEAL. Thinking that it is a big deal does not minimize anyone the actions of anyone else in this!! "Well what about what FCA/JB/CM did?!" is not a valid response to this. That is honestly the kind of response I would...

I saw that the one house was owned by a Hernandez Gonzales. Could she have just changed it to Fernandez or gotten it wrong? Very interesting...

In a movie, I'd say not but since this is real life I'm going to say coincidence OR that she knew that and that is why she chose that name and that the ZFG looking at Sawgrass was the coincidence... I think. if you ask me again tomorrow, I might have a different answer. :crazy:

Is what actually happened to Caylee a subject that can even be explored in this lawsuit? I would think that the focus would need to be on the false statements, not getting to the truth of what happened. I have really mixed feelings on this. I would be really upset if it happened to me but I...

Add to this that Casey was already lying so much that it would have been fairly easy to just make something else up to fix this, whether it was something about already catching Caylee "making up" other things recently or that she had just lost the job at Universal and was too ashamed to tell...

I would not be in support of this. For one, what kind of training would be required? Any sort of training would move it more toward a decision made by a panel of judges rather than a jury of peers. As someone who served on a murder trial, I would be in support of something like a court...

It probably would have but I don't think they're obligated to do so. I served on a jury where we were sick over the not guilty verdict and all I wanted to do was get the hell out of there when it was over. That wasn't a high profile case at all but it was still a murder trial.

I feel like I would be more likely to believe that people knew about the case and tried to get on so they could find her guilty, not the other way around. And I do understand trying to make sense of things by saying they wanted a pay day but THAT many of them?

http://www.patriotledger.com/mobile/x898079778/WENDY-J-MURPHY-Casey-Anthony-trial-an-exercise-in-absurdity I think this must be it.

FWIW, the anything but clothes party was May 25 so it was prior to all of this. I agree that it was definitely not 31 days of partying but it was 31 days of carrying on as usual, perhaps with the exception of the nightmares/waking up in a cold sweat that Tony reported happened once he was back...

How about the details of the recent evaluation when they had to stop the trial to asses her mental state? I really want to see the reaction video because I feel like I can't imagine WHAT the reaction is that would be so inflammatory.

I was a juror on a murder trial a few years ago and at first we were 8-4 not guilty but we all eventually ended up at not guilty after about five total days of deliberations. It was similar in the sense that we all agreed that they (there were 3 defendants) had SOME involvement but we felt that...

Maybe but I feel like there are always a million little things that, if changed, can have a much much larger impact on outcomes. I'm always so intrigued by the seemingly small things that can be part of creating just the right circumstances for some larger event.

Wow. But maybe things will be worse for her since everyone is still worked up and the media is all over it. She will have to stay in hiding for awhile.

I was also on a jury (murder) that talked. No one talked about not guilty/guilty but there was a lot of discussion about the testimony and evidence. I tried to say something but no one listened. Also during deliberations, one of them felt out an alternate.