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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I pray none of us have to face a similar situation I have no clue how I would react to anything at all whether I was the victim or a loved one was I dont know if I would remember to kick and scream if someone had a gun to me or if I would go along out of fear I dont know if I would talk to the...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I dont think its strange coming from a man who in my mind 100% saw WH as the person he would spend the rest of his life with no matter what I am sure he felt like his soul mate was taken away and that it was very unfair because his life would never be the same again I am sure they had many many...
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    GUILTY NJ - Autumn Pasquale, 12, Clayton, 20 Oct 2012 - #2

    I am afraid someone lured her there perhaps her text was in response to some requesting she come to the home she initally declined and they got rude and so she responded the way she did MOO I just hate to see this happening each day!
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    IMO i dont think he was on anything i think he was quiet i think he was thoughtful and i think he held alot in and is terribly unbalanced clarify thoughtful as in thinking about what he did
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    personally its nice to see people from all walks or life current jws previous jws all caring about Whitney and her family the terrible truth is that this was done not by a complete stranger but by someone she knew and most likely trusted to a certain extent this type of thing can happen to any...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    im not sure how well he hid things from his spouse but something feels horribly wrong about the fact that he moved into the same apt complex as C and W
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I agree with alot of this I got robbed once while on a walk because a man who looked to be homeless started riding next to me and I wanted to be nice and instead of telling him to get lost I engaged him in convo and he knocked me down and stole my ring thank goodness I didnt get hurt seriously...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    understandable because ive seen it happen where people do that i think they just misunderstood when the poster said they didnt think that would be the case and mistook it for a rule
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    i agree with all the above comments where did he say he needed a ride to? but seriously how creepy is it that its probablly still dark out and you have a person even a person you know asking you for a ride early in the am when they are married and could just ask their spouse also i can see...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    lol i grew up over explaining :p side note if this was a new couple to the faith (holts) I can see them helping as well and what a horrible spot to be in where you live that close i am sure you feel obligated in even the tiniest of ways to help some...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    True enough! I personally think there may still be a memorial that is JW only but that of course is JMO
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    not to jump in i think there was a previous post that made mention that it would have been alittle unlikely for WH to give Holt a ride because they were both married and it could look bad for both to be alone together because that could lead to gossip and rumors so I think perhaps there was...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I just dont see him being the epitome of honesty what he did is beyond imaginable and I believe he was hiding some very dark secrets from his wife family and religion I personally believe he was LIVING a lie everyday IMO again I used to be a JW but had to be honest with myself that certain...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    ive never known of any rules saying you cant it might look bad to some but who knows what story she was told? I personally still think that he was waiting for her and she may have even refused to give him a ride which made him pull out the gun and tell her to get into the seat and drive i...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    this is just so scary I cant even imagine, so many people deemed this man harmless I dont think I want to know what else happened its to much already
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    no christmas due to beliefs clint had his jacket on in the interview imagine coming home and having reporters at your front door! hes darned if he does darned if he doesnt because if he says NOTHING that can be looked at badly too he needs privacy he looked so horrible in that interview i am...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    :furious: he needs to be very scared what a horrible person! I think he has been thinking about this for a very long time and is not crying from remorse but because he got caught I truly believe he thought he would get away with it and he underestimated how quickly LE solved this. I think he...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    Thank you very very much! I hope he didnt move there just so he could attend the same kingdom hall:what: I do realize you can attend whatever hall you want even if its not close to your home but I totally believe he was obessed with her how sick
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    It seems normal to me I dont see them having a large public memorial for WH so perhaps this is his way of sharing with the non (i dont use the term church since JW dont consider it a church) but Ill use it in this reference non church community his thanks for what everyone has done and what...

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