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Does $323 a month repayments sound like a lot for a van? It's on the high side for adverts I've seen on TV, but I think those may be just for rentals - i.e. you pay $XYZ a month for 24, 36 or 60 months to use the vehicle, but at the end of that period it returns to the rental company...

I note that the Benchcraft debt is disputed. A google for Benchcraft in Portland brought up this link: http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/bench-craft-company-c51878.html Assuming it's the same company, one wonder if they really did any work for him, overcharged for work done so he...

A quick look at Sears.com suggests you can get a cutting torch for $300, but that doesn't include the gas bottles required to fuel the thing, and it may not be capable of cutting through, say the bars covering a mineshaft, as supplied. I don't know about you, but I'm not in the habit of...

I'll have at stab at that one. Primarily I don't think his personality was suited to the job. Susan as a "people person" would probably have made a very good Realtor, indeed I think she would have been good at anything where her interpersonal skills were to the fore. Of course that's not all...

BBM - I would sincerely hope that anyone who wrote for a school or college newspaper at any level, even Elementary, woudl develop a better writing style than Josh's stilted, choppy style demonstrated on his various websites, and would develop a better turn of phrased. It there is a grain of...

Since the odd discovery has now been investigated by LE and is not covering a body, the thread is dying a natural death.

There are only two Airgas outlets in SLC, located at: Airgas Dry Ice 1211 South Pioneer Road, Salt Lake City, UT 84104 and Airgas Intermountain 3415 South 700 West, Salt Lake City, UT 84119-4140 The first only sells ice, while the second has: Fill Plant Medical Branch...

Pickiechicke, I went back to the shrink wrap thread as suggested, and it was you who first mentions the purchase of a cutting torch in that thread, in post #29, but you are referring back to a previous mention (but no link). In this post the cutting torch purchase is BEFORE Susan's...

Thanks for the clarification. What we could do with is one of Josh's neighbours to come forward to confirm whether or not Josh had chains for his van. I doubt everyone in WVC drives with chains everytime it snows, but maybe they all own a set of snowtires and fit them for the winter. There...

Reading between the lines, we have a theory that Steven might have met either Josh or Susan at an LDS gathering, and that could form the connection between the cases. That is certainly more likely than a chance encounter in the desert. Parties are places where people deliberately gather, and...

That would be a key siting if it could be confirmed, because wherever Josh went between 12:30am and 7am, and then 7am and 5pm, is obviously a great deal less far than if he had from 12:30am to 5pm. It would also suggest a direction he drove, since he'd be unlikely to use a SLC gas station to...

The problem for me is there have to be two very unlikely events occurring here - first Steven witnesses Josh in the process of disposing of a body, and then Josh has to arrange for someone else to track Steven down and dispose of him. Also we have to assume Steven did not contact the Police in...

I have been trying to get anyone who thinks there is a connection to give their theory, but unfortunately haven't received a response that gives a reasoned theory, or a link to any theory previously proposed which I have overlooked. I'm not particularly interested in Steven's case, but I am...

Susan and Steven could have both been abducted by aliens, but it's about as likely as two men who had never met before accidentally meeting in the vastness of the Western Desert, one driving off, the other realising he was spotted hiding a body, somehow tracking his witness down without...

I wonder who the witnesses could be beyond the names we've seen in the news, and discussed here dozens of times, and what harm could come to them? If LE think that Josh would come back to WVC to eliminate these witnesses, witholding their names wouldn't stop Josh making an educated guess, if he...

Does anyone have a link to that story? Unless he went to a 24 hour store, he's have had to wait till the morning to buy a cutting torch, or dump the body and then drive back to the store, then go back and retrieve the body to dump it again where the torch would help gain access. I don't think it...

I'm disappointed this lead didn't work out, but I'm really glad Tooele County are following up all leads, unlike WVC. The lump was too suspicious to ignore.

Interesting you should say that. I'm still convinced that no planning went into it at all, Josh killed Susan in a fit of temper during a late night argument, and then panicked and invented the midnight camping trip to give an excuse to drive out into the wilderness in the dark and dispose of the...

How do you think they did this, when they didn't know he even hired the car until after he returned it? I have rented many cars in the US in the last five years, and not one had GPS fitted as standard. It was always an add-on option that I never took. Higher spec cars do now sometimes...

Could you explain what your scenario (which relates Steven's known movements to Josh) actually is? is it (scenario 1): 1) Josh kills Susan and disposes of her body somewhere 2) Steven and Josh communicate (did they know each other before?) and Steven offers to rehide the body 3) Steven...