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  1. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging - Memphis #4 *Arrest*

    I purchased 3 Go Guarded yesterday, for myself, my daughter and oldest granddaughter… I’m going to look for TigerLady, too. I won’t live in fear but I won’t go out unprotected either
  2. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging - Memphis #4 *Arrest*

    Unfortunately, I doubt he will. Just as he repeated his previous crime of kidnapping, having learned nothing from his 20 years behind bars… I seriously doubt “he going to sign his name to a guilty plea…” I will be interested to hear his answer to charges, is that tomorrow?
  3. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging - Memphis #4 *Arrest*

    Yes be very careful. I listen and read true crime daily and I’ve noticed that smaller women are often a target of predators. Im assuming they think they will be easier to control. I’m not small at 5’9 but my daughter is like you … so I worry about these things.
  4. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging - Memphis #4 *Arrest*

    I think I used the wrong word - random, I’ve heard it so many times. I was thinking or meant to say that I thought he was waiting on someone - anyone, but I suspected he was at that particular location to snatch a college student not a 34 year old mother.
  5. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging - Memphis #4 *Arrest*

    I can understand the premeditated kidnapping but not murder … how can they say he premeditated murder unless they found something/evidence that suggested he planned to murder her before he grabbed her.
  6. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging - Memphis #4 *Arrest*

    d) As used in subdivision (a)(1), “premeditation” is an act done after the exercise of reflection and judgment. “Premeditation” means that the intent to kill must have been formed prior to the act itself. It is not necessary that the purpose to kill preexist in the mind of the accused for any...
  7. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging - Memphis #4 *Arrest*

    I watched his hand when he raised it. Steady as a rock. I’ve seen others shake, but not CA. I suspected he had his face mask much higher to cover the wound I believe Eliza inflicted under his eye. I was surprised by the “premeditation” charge though I’ve thought it wasn’t random. Anyone know if...
  8. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging Near University of Memphis #3

    I’m not sure they can give him the death penalty if he confesses right now. Executions are on hold. Maybe for years. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/under-court-agreement-tennessee-executions-could-be-on-hold-for-years
  9. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging Near University of Memphis #2

    Several Twitter posts are stating a McDonald employee found clothes in dumpster. I have seen no LE confirmation. https://heavy.com/news/eliza-fletcher-update-mcdonalds-apartment-photos/amp/
  10. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging Near University of Memphis #2

    Oh WOW! I heard that her uncle worked in same law office as Durand but it was “rumor” so I kept my mouth shut (I know that’s unlike me) - this could be a good sign that he has her somewhere?!?. He didn’t have time to request a ransom?.
  11. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging Near University of Memphis #2

    Her maternal grandfather’s company Orgill Inc.is considered a billion dollar business. But, I see no indication from her housing or employment that EF lived like an heiress or what I would call an official heiress (like Paris Hilton). If I had a billion dollars and my granddaughter was missing...
  12. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging Near University of Memphis #2

    Why would he dump her clothes separately from her? I realize they would be removed for SA but if he say threw her in the river, why not throw her clothes with her? I know there is little hope but maybe he is holding her somewhere and he took her clothes to discourage her from running?
  13. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging Near University of Memphis #2

    “Lack of communication” @RunWithTheWild stated she worked in News and this can mean they are getting close and being quiet to preserve all evidence (or something to that effect!) I understood it to be a good sign.
  14. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging Near University of Memphis #2

    Do you know kind of watch she is wearing in this picture? Why would she wear her watch and carry a phone? https://www.google.com/amp/s/heavy.com/news/richie-fletcher-eliza-liza-husband/amp/
  15. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging Near University of Memphis #2

    I think some people, (I know I used to) imagine a horrible life in prison. But for some it’s a safer place than on the street. Family bonds are created, boundaries and rules established, they are fed, clothed, housed, given healthcare and education. For some - it’s a stronger bond than with...
  16. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging Near University of Memphis #2

    Thank you! I’m assuming you would need to be a strong runner to qualify for Boston? “In 2019, she finished the St. Jude marathon with a time of 3:26:09, a fast enough time to qualify for the Boston Marathon”...
  17. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging Near University of Memphis #2

    I swear I read that items were given to University officer? I am very curious to know if friends were already out looking for her.
  18. vaporlass

    Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging Near University of Memphis #2

    Thank you @RunWithTheWild so much for joining in and speaking up, great contribution. I always get so intense during this time after someone goes missing and before they are found. My mind is comforted/calmed by every tidbit of information and contribution. I mapped her location of abduction...

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