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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    Agree: Me think some doth protest too much. There really was never any reason to suspect suicide other than Jonah and Adam said. This is clear cut murder. I hope the family gets justice and I hope great things are in store for Mr. Greer. I agree that he's an amazing attorney and a merciful man...
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    Right. Which is why the "killing time" and "waiting for the light" is very interesting. That's NOT someone soundly zonked out (thoroughly exhausted after that long flight from Phoenix, as he testified, and furthermore on ambien). They represent he's out so soundly that he couldn't hear the music...
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    Yes. Ever since I heard his testimony about his dad, I've thought this. It was clear that dad was devastated, thus understood the severity of Max's condition. And, it seems clear Adam felt deep emotion for his father and was deeply impacted by his father's pain. If his father held RZ responsible...
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    Good observation. See, a real investigation would have gone after Adam like a hound dog due to his 911 and poly. In the course of that, they would have tracked every bit of evidence and that would have led them to figure out details about the crime, if anyone else was involved, etc. The rope is...
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    Bingo. Great point, Tortoise. Another inconsistency.
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    Lezah--Good point! I agree that this does indicate a sleepless, restless state where he's anticipatory of the next thing to come. Ok, maybe just waiting for "the light," or maybe waiting for what needed to be done once light comes. In conjunction with the "yesterday" on the 911, it is fitting...
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    I just watched Greer's cross of JS, too. Yes, he's masterful in being professional/respectful yet focusing in on what's truly pertinent. He was able to: counter the knot tying and KT tape testimony--including showing Jonah both lied and exaggerated what the boat tie down entailed; demonstrate...
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    Yes, let's hope 9 out of 12 feel the same! I have a very heavy sense of what this trial means to the Zahau family, yet I am not stressing the outcome as much as many others seem to be. Anything can happen, I guess, and especially when defendant can afford the best defense team money can buy; but...
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    Looking forward to the Caitlin interview. I was hoping to see it here tonight -- I'll be eagerly awaiting the link. As for reasonable doubt, it's not about reasonable doubt, as you know. Plaintiffs have created a strong preponderance of the evidence case, imo. And, defense has not changed that...
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    Your opinion & experience is invaluable. Your analysis & observations seem spot on to me. Thank you K_Z! :tyou:
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    Good try at minimizing. He was more than within a half-block of the crime. He was actually right there at the same house. He was the last person to see the victim alive and he was the person who found her dead. Take a listen to his polygraph and his 911 call -- he gives unrelated details to set...
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    Caitlin Rother posted two hours ago that she "just did a looooong podcast for WebSleuths.com" about the trial. Should be posted any time now, I'd think.
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    We are aware that Nina puts herself right at the scene within a half hour of the scream -- worked up (understandably) & wanting a reenactment of the accident so badly, she didn't leave after nobody came to the front door, but rather went around back. Greer knowing he intended to drop the case...
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    Absolutely. What changed in his financial picture or lifestyle after RZ died? Nothing, but he suddenly became a homeowner. I wonder how and why.
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    Does anybody connected with the Shacknais know what "insurance" problem Adam was arrested for (ARRESTED for an "insurance problem"?) and how it "was taken care of.." (his honest response until he corrected himself on the witness stand)? TIA. Since Adam is on trial and Rebecca is dead, that might...
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    Thanks for the summary. It's really helpful. Even the testimony that is streamed, I can't watch because of work. I may or may not be able to watch pieces of what's posted after the fact. Recaps are greatly appreciated. Thank you!!!
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    Thanks for this post. It's total victim bashing to go into this crap which has NOTHING to do with anything. Are you kidding me--courts don't even allow prior crimes to be mentioned when someone is on trial for a violent and similar offense, because it's prejudicial; but we're talking about...
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    This and/or may have had difficulty doing certain things with the gloves. Maybe the paint tube didn't squeeze easily & he had to remove? Maybe the door knob would not turn and he took off the glove and used the drier sheet to turn it instead. Was Rebecca doing laundry in the guest bedroom? Drier...
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    Wrongful death trial begins. Trial coverage and discussion #2

    It's really not rocket science. "Everything" doesn't have to be wiped down. Certain pertinent places that were touched without gloves could have been wiped (paint tube, door handle), while gloves could have been worn at other times. The clear absence of her DNA where it would HAVE to be (paint...

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