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I'm just getting a very strange feeling that something happened in that brush next to the ledge where the gate is. I don't know if I feel that Shane fell in/was pushed in from that brush area or was spirited away in a car near that location. If he was going to the parking lot to meet someone...

[/B] I had asked before about this ledge, and I believe that either takeittothebank or alwaysonthecase responded to me (I'm sorry I don't have a moment now to go back and look) about the logistics of this ledge, and I thank you for responding. Possibly he was in the brush area next to the...

I am leaning towards what I bolded above. Kevinc, did Kildare's happen to say when the debit card was found? I am assuming they would say "that night" (when Shane was in the bar), but I am wondering if the debit card was mysteriously found "later." If "later" maybe the debit card was...

FWC, your input has been extremely beneficial and insightful. I am so glad you have been contributing to this discussion. :)

BBM: What does verified mean, and how does one go about that. Thanks, Skeet. :)

I have always found it odd that DA would want to go all the way back to John and Peter's for his umbrella. Since the folks at John and Peters were friends of his, couldn't he have just called and had them look for it and keep it?

[QUOTE=Phoenixrising;9151499]Interesting! Thanks! I will read that article about the grass. I would have thought the opposite.[/QUOTE] BBM: Phoenix, me too, I would have thought the opposite as well.

Phoenix, I read the Forensics of Drowning article on the Killing Killer's website. In the article, I believe they said that one would expect to see clumps of grass or debris in the hands of someone who had drowned and that the absence of this would signal that they had died prior to going in...

Dead man found near canal 31-year-old Delaware Township man discovered by man walking dog DATE POSTED: Thursday, September 20, 2007 2:45 PM EDT By: Cynthia Williamson According to this article, DA was found floating faceup and LE said the body appeared to be in the canal for only a short...