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  1. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #32

    The entire colored area (pink, purple, blue) are open to each other and outdoors but covered. There are no doors connecting or separating the colors. The blue area is the driveway that has a porte cochère covering, and the pink/purple area is the covered outdoor patio area where the campers were...
  2. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #32

    There is an awning over the front (main) entrance. It looks about 6-8ft deep. It's shallow, but it's there. Deeper than the eves.
  3. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #32

    Quoting my own post. This is a (very) rough 3/4 diagram of that area. I was unable to find any clear photos of how that looks.
  4. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #32

    The pink area is not indoors. The entire pink and blue area (combined) is outside, though it's difficult to tell from an aerial photo. It's unlikely, in my opinion, that she was found outside, though she may have been. Based on LE statements and also footage taken after the crime, I think it's...
  5. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #32

    There's been a little speculation about that here and there. I personally think she was inside the building, not out on the patio. Mostly because LE said "in the SW corner of the building" but also she was reportedly found with broken glass nearby.
  6. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #32

    Yes, it's definitely splitting hairs, but the porte-cochere has an extension of the roof, where the patio is underneath the main roof. They're not the same awning structure, but they are definitely adjacent to each other, and both in the same general area in the SW corner. But yeah, we're...
  7. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #32

    Respectfully, the awning MB is referring to is yet another area - not the porte cochere, not the main entry awning, but the patio, adjacent to the porte cochere. You might be able to see it best here:
  8. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #32

    Haha! Well picking nits, a car port is definitely different where I come from. And an awning is also different. Porte cochere may not be common use in rural TX, especially if you don't often see them or use them. But it's common elsewhere, especially in the south, bigger cities, and places...
  9. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #32

    The main doors are not the SW doors. The main doors are on the west side of the building, and the covered patio and covered porte cochere are on the SW corner. If she entered the main doors (W), she likely turned and started walking south toward the porte cochere (SW), where the motion detector...
  10. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #32

    He probably had hours after the murder, and quite possibly traveled hundreds of miles during that time. It could have been stashed anywhere but I doubt it's stashed anywhere nearby. I really hadn't thought about the idea of burning or otherwise destroying it, but that's something to consider.
  11. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #31

    If you're not working on that particular aspect, then no - the minutiae of the building layout and surveillance video analysis won't help you identify someone. But some of us are working on that aspect, and exploring/eliminating scenarios based on that info. There is a possibility people can be...
  12. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #31

    Oddly, that's not my interpretation of his description. I read that as she entered in the main entrance, walked down the hallway toward the sw corner (PC area) where the cameras are placed, into the camera blind spot (when they shut off). Here's a detailed diagram of the blind spot, using the...
  13. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #31

    Here are the "green men" animations, side by side. It's an attempt to show how data point subtraction from gear measurements and euclidean geometry applied to general anatomy will reveal an approximate body shape beneath the costume. Let me know if you need any further explanation.
  14. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #31

    I agree. I never believed she was outside myself. Especially considering there's no glass under the patio area.
  15. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #31

    While I tend to agree with most of your "telephone game" type assessments, this was reported by the producer of NG's show who spoke with LE that day. Given the source, it could still be "wild speculation" (hah), but the source of that information isn't a "telephone game" extrapolation of anyone...
  16. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #31

    I guess technically, the main doors (W) do have an awning. You've been there, so you've seen them. But others may not realize the main door vestibule doors are inset under the pitched roof, and the roof provides a short awning over that area. It looks like maybe 6-8ft deep or so. Here's the only...
  17. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #31

    Yes I posted about this yesterday. You can see my analysis/comparisons here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?311842-TX-Terri-Missy-Bevers-45-murdered-in-church-person-in-SWAT-gear-18-Apr-2016-31&p=12685339#post12685339
  18. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #31

    We briefly covered this in an earlier thread. There is an area just inside the PC vestibule doors that is a camera blind spot roughly 6ft x 10ft in size. Just adjacent to that, still in the blind spot, we believe there is a hallway that leads to the restrooms, which would extend the open area...
  19. Batbrat

    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #31

    No. The main doors have an inset awning area, and the PC leads to a covered patio on the SW corner, but there is no covered walkway around the outside the building.

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