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I'm sure it won't affect my view of the medical profession ;)

I agree wholeheartedly. Something needs to be done to safeguard the most vulnerable people in our society. I know the reasons why they can't put those safeguards into place are probably to do with lack of funding/staff. But I'm sure there must be some way of protecting those people who can't...

Thanks for this, Dotta. It's admirable that you're into this kind of detail, haha...

It's beyond sad for the families.

Good point! Oh, and the police.

Is there any other line of work where if you suspect your colleague of killing people, you are told to keep quiet about it? No wonder people mistrust the medical profession.

I think part of the problem is that doctors in general just go from patient to patient, dealing with each on the basis of what is happening in the present moment. They don't have time to follow up on each of them or to read the reports, which would in some cases give them pause for thought, or...

It's understandable that people aren't sure about the doctors, due to the way it has been reported. For instance, they stated back in 2015 that after the first few unexpected deaths, "all eyes were on Lucy Letby," which implies that they were all keeping a close eye on her (to state the...

Complacency is the enemy.

We have plenty of room for improvement!

And that is enough for a whole life order. The jury's inconclusive verdict on others is now irrelevant.

Reporters don't always give the full details - just the bits that make a good headline, unfortunately.

Very true. She will have the opportunity to better herself through study, reading, all those opportunities people have in prison in the UK.

It's not for me to reply on behalf of someone else, but there really is no contradiction here. Questions are being raised, and rightly so, about what could have been done differently to prevent this kind of terrible thing happening again in future. Lessons have to be learned.

I keep remembering, during the trial, back in February, the interchange between Mr Myers and Dr Jayaram. Ben Myers KC, defending, said the doctors were “grown adults” who could have gone straight to the police. Dr Jayaram replied: “We were also beginning to get a reasonable amount of pressure...

Dr Jayaram did say in retrospect ‘I wish we had bypassed [the managers] and gone straight to the police. We by no means were playing judge and jury at any point but the association [with Letby] was becoming clearer and clearer.’ :(

Interesting article here about some of the missed chances to stop Letby: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12286051/Lucy-Letby-eight-missed-chances-stop-killer-nurse-murdering-babies.html

True. Even so, her suffering is as nothing compared to that of the poor parents of those babies :(

I'd like to give special thanks to all the posters who tried to remain impartial throughout the discussions, instead of assuming guilt. Thankfully, the jurors themselves gave thoughtful consideration to all aspects of the case, as is reflected in their complex verdict.

Probably relishing the fact that we can't stop talking about her ;)