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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    Random thoughts: I was thinking about DW walking home after. That she wasn't driven home is not indicative of anything as it was characteristic for her to walk home. CV testified she did often and he even let her do that Monday after she met him and someone else at Malarkeys. I think she...
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    (Just had an image. Some sexual predators ejaculate into a towel or hand, whatever. Maybe he looked in her purse for a tissue or after strangling her picked up her panties to wipe himself off.)
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    A TV show I was watching (didn't follow completely close but...) a guy had been imprisoned 10 yrs. He had met with a troubled student who then disappeared. He had put his coat around her as she was cold and apparently her blood was found on his coat. That and having been ID'd as being in the...
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    Modern day cases we tend to side with LE and trust their work and the Crown's work, but this is a little different. It is all based on a shoddy LE investigation from 1981 and on. I think a few members of the public should keep their mouths closed unless they've done the background research we...
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    Just in case someone Googles Robert Badgerow I thought I'd type his name in here so they can read some of these posts. This Thread was titled with DW's name not Robert Badgerow's. No one is going to Google DW for info. IMO
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    Want to add this to the journal...Regarding maneuvering into the back seat of the car. That would have to ASSUME they started in the front seat. Our closed minds would make us think that. But what if it was something like this: Back in the day, young people would hang out in parking lots...
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    I wish reporters would retweet unbiased tweets. I've seen retweets about this being 4th time get it right. But 4th time has nothing to do with this case for the jury. I.e. they aren't to consider that. DNA is there, yes. Thanks to DNA testing being made possible in 1998. But does DNA prove a...
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    Lots of valid points. I also thought I read her friend said she disconnected her phone so that other ex couldn't call her. And I read she talked to CV earlier that day by phone. So she would have called from work I suppose. As to our closed minds. Yes, we do tend to have tunnel vision until...
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    Did you catch the postulation that maybe those undies had been in the purse from another time? I'd never thought of that. Interesting though and would explain CV's semen in them. But I still can't picture how you get semen in undies and then decide to take them off and put them in your purse...
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    He says it is crown's job to prove RB killed her. I see no corroborating evidence that he did. No eye witness. No cleaned up hidden away clothes found. No DW souvenirs. He didn't even take a day off work. No drunken admissions. As a matter of fact, just getting off work he didn't have time to be...
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    I read the defense closing comments. I agree with the defense. I'm glad he said the crown threw out red herrings. I read part of the crown's closing and yes, they did it again, saying she was "humiliated" for example. They don't know that. They also said "She can't talk." Well, previous case...
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    Of overriding importance is the presumption of innocence which remains with RB throughout the course of the trial. The presumption of innocence is only discharged when the jury is satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that RB is guilty as charged. Reasonable doubt means exclude the idea someone...
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    CANADA Canada - Sharin Morningstar Keenan, 9, Toronto, 23 Jan 1983

    I was reading up on this crime today and thought the same thing. If others in the rooming house knew his room was empty, another might have put the body in there. That was just a first thought that came to me. Hopefully the other tenants and landlord were vetted.
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    CANADA Canada - Sharin Morningstar Keenan, 9, Toronto, 23 Jan 1983

    They are kind of small. What was of interest was his walking style. The walking style of the perp in the DW case was also quick and awkward as reported in 2 cases. Does anyone on this thread know DMH's whereabouts in 1981? Or what alias he was using then? Could he have worked at dofasco in...
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    Some are asking why the 2 hr tape was played. My speculation is while the clip played was alarming, in context, it was just another day at the call center. I believe LE gets lots of calls and tips that go no where and are useless. Now that we know the info wasn't really 'withheld' but in the...
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    If people are saying, 'oh but she would never have done that!' Someone had referred to that bar as being a meat market! Meat markets are where one goes to meet other singles, and often results in one-night-stands! Why did DW call CV on that very day? Was he questioned about what the...
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    I thought a couple of dofasco workers said they saw the poster and listened -- one threw up. They said this was prior to his arrest. But has time blurred the memory?
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    bbm boy, you just triggered a memory. An apartment I lived in in a house in Mississauga I heard a man beating up a woman upstairs. The door was around the back and I went and saw a 12 yr old or so kid shaking on the steps and I asked what was happening and he said, "My uncle's beating up my...
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    GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981

    I think because, as I've been re-reading the legal documents, judges have found loopholes as they refer to case law and and there has to be enough substantive connection and not speculation. For instance, in connecting William Cooper, LE had already checked into his whereabouts. The judge said...

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