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  1. Swirlz

    What is the most vexing true crime case in your life? What is the one case that you need to know how it ends?

    Madeleine McCann, JonBenet, Honey & Barry Sherman & Asha Degree
  2. Swirlz

    CA Ronald Lyle Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson found dead June 12 1994

    Not guilty verdict 30 yrs. ago today.
  3. Swirlz

    If the phone records from that night magically disappeared, who do you think the Ramseys were speaking to? How much detail did they share to get help.

    Does anyone have a source for this? I'm not saying there isn't one, I've just never seen it.
  4. Swirlz

    Why doesn't anyone think it could've been John.

    Probably. What do you think?
  5. Swirlz

    Why doesn't anyone think it could've been John.

    Fwiw my sources are the crime-scene walkthrough video, Patsy's police interview transcript and Steve Thomas' book.
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    Why doesn't anyone think it could've been John.

    How does any of the following fit with Burke as opposed to an adult being the party responsible for the knock on the head: 1. A trophy being knocked off of a shelf too high up for JBR to be able to reach in a bedroom that is otherwise neat. 2. JBR's toilet containing unflushed waste. 3. A...
  7. Swirlz

    New theory?

    There's only one furrow on JBR's neck. That doesn't fit the theory of retying. The vaginal area fibers were described as both "dark" and "dark blue". The "dark blue" fibers were fibers believed to have been used to do the wiping and were described as "towel material". The "dark" fibers were...
  8. Swirlz

    Burke did NOT kill JonBenet

    "He appeared to be very forward and he appeared to be completely honest. I got no indication he was holding back anything. He didn’t witness anything. I found nothing that would indicate he even knew that she was dead." - Det. Patterson
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    Burke did NOT kill JonBenet

    Just wanted to address this -- Burke did strike JBR with a golf club. He was 7 at the time and she sustained a slight facial injury. This was two years prior to the homicide. A former friend of the family who wasn't present claimed in a television interview (2016) that according to what Patsy...
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    Burke did NOT kill JonBenet

    Presumably an adult brought Burke a sandwich. Only one page of his interview with Patterson has been made public but he isn't talking about Charlevoix -- he's answering a series of fairly detailed questions about what he and JBR did that night.
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    Burke did NOT kill JonBenet

    What do you make of JBR's toilet containing unflushed waste, her soiled pants being inside-out on her bathroom floor, the top Patsy claimed to have put her to bed in being on top of JBR's bathroom sink, the room stinking of urine and JBR's urine-stained, Beauty and the Beast sheet being in the...
  12. Swirlz

    Burke did NOT kill JonBenet

    I disagree. Please explain further. He said he thought it looked like fruit. He paused and leaned in to get a better look at the pic and kind of fidgeted. The footage was made available to the public by CBS and is played with creepy background noises in an attempt to make Burke's responses seem...
  13. Swirlz

    CA - Court upholds Menendez brothers' convictions

    @Swarley, thanks. Do you know if this was shown in the retrial?
  14. Swirlz

    CA - Court upholds Menendez brothers' convictions

    More from the link Jade quoted from above: Menendez brothers' claims of abuse supported by newly discovered letter, new allegation. Will their convictions stand? LESLIE ABRAMSON (Defense opening at trial): Good afternoon … The only question in this case is why did these killings occur? … Why...
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    CA - Court upholds Menendez brothers' convictions

    People were afraid of and were intimidated by Jose Menendez and no, no one did anything but that isn't unusual. I mean, this forum is replete with stories about child abuse that goes unreported and with no one doing anything. Not sure why it would be particularly shocking or impossible to...
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    CA - Court upholds Menendez brothers' convictions

    O.k., I can only explain what the defense position was at the time. The juries were read an "imperfect self-defense" instruction. The defendant's position was that they believed their parents were going to kill them in response to them having threatened to expose the family secret about sexual...
  17. Swirlz

    CA - Court upholds Menendez brothers' convictions

    There was also testimony of an uncle-by-marriage who was no longer a part of the family at the time of the trial, he was an ex-husband of one of Jose's sisters. He testified to having walked in on Jose repeatedly punching a 5 yr. old Lyle what he described as "very hard". A cousin also...
  18. Swirlz

    CA - Court upholds Menendez brothers' convictions

    O.k., I went and looked for this pic. This is the best I can do. It appears to be cropped. In the original I saw, Jose is visible and standing off to the side looking up at the baby, Erik. His hands aren't up, waiting ready to catch him. And I'm not sure if it's visible in this pic but one hand...
  19. Swirlz

    CA - Court upholds Menendez brothers' convictions

    I'm old enough to have watched the live trial in it's entirety. The evidence of sexual abuse: Testimony of a cousin who at age 23 was living at their home. She claims Lyle told her and that she in turn told Kitty who ignored it. Testimony of a cousin who claimed that at as children, Erik told...
  20. Swirlz

    CA - Court upholds Menendez brothers' convictions

    Kitty's signature is also on the outside of the Fotomat envelope that contained creepy pics with heads cropped.

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