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I agree the police are convinced she got back to the flat. Anyone contrasting the language used by the police on things they're evenly marginally doubtful of with their tone in saying she got back has to be convinced : they are really certain she did. To me they seem pretty certain, but perhaps...

I think your post shows that can't have been the way it happened. At least I may have led a sheltered life, but I doubt whether the annals of crime offer a single example of a criminal quite so "cold, efficient, calculating, sick, dangerous" etc all at once, though please disabuse me if I am...

But why would the abductors choose to run such risks rather than pick up a girl walking along the street ? What is the "unknown means" by which they get in ? Why carry off the pizza ? And why, assuming sexual motive, don't they get what they want ? Too many unexplainables to be the right...

I don’t think we are going to get very far trying to identify the murderer until we have first applied our sleuthing talents to the police statements and actions in order to fill in the missing parts of the jigsaw puzzle of what they know but don’t want to reveal. Here’s an...

A highly significant piece of evidence which has apparently caused the police to return to 44 Canynge Road today for further forensic investigations. Well, if the perp was at all clued up (and the police expressly state that he was forensically aware), he would have put the body in a tarp, or...

I can't accept this defeatist reasoning Philb. It seems to me that it can easily be a culprit already on the radar but who has not left any clinching evidence against himself and who has strong enough nerves not to crack under interrogation. The police may be almost certain of who it is, but not...

New round... All quotes are from Teabreid's post here. First piece of luck you postulate - he forgets his mobile. Second piece of luck you postulate - the 4x4 has a full tank. The trip south to dump the body will add a few miles and at least twenty minutes. Third piece of luck you postulate -...

It's a clever theory Teabreid, but IMO it strains credibility to breaking point. 1. To avoid electronic detection when he leaves Sheffield to return to Bristol, he has to leave his mobile in Sheffield despite the dangerous weather conditions and he has to pay cash at some stage for fuel...

To refute Philb's overwhelming evidence in favour of the quarry entrance site we should need the DCI's exact words. Otherwise it may well be that the journalist is expanding on what was said in the light of his own erroneous supposition as to the site.

I think the whole thing is completely above board. The "asleep" claim was the press's version of what they had got from a friend of MW and no doubt a confusion. On the other two, I think that when Joanna made the call, MW was at his office and his phone on charge. Then he took the phone off...

The following from FB seems extremely important and answers a question that has been tantalising a few of us : I think that makes it clear that for all practical purposes, No 42 has better proximity to J + G's flat than the other parts of No 44.

I thought it was established that there was snowfall in Bristol during the night of 24-25 December ? Which being the case, she would be covered in snow even if she was found very shortly after dumping. Extraordinary, fiction-like quality about this case, how it snows heavily shortly after the...

The retired DCI was taking it for granted that the body was dumped where the flowers are. Philb has convincingly demonstrated that it wasn't - it was dumped right at the entrance. As far as I can see those who are trying to convince us that the body was the other side of the fence are forcing...

In connection with removing JY's body, the police called on the services of the fire brigade with a small crane. That much is fact. As for the claim that this was necessary, because the body was frozen to the ground or to the nearby lump of masonry, I suggest that it is mere conjecture. The...

We've been told that the motorway cctv clocks are mostly inaccurate which has meant that the police had to verify them individually and transpose their recorded data accordingly to find out the real time of any event recorded by them. It seems to me quite possible that that may also apply to...

Myserty, surely the risk taken in moving the body by anyone other than a resident of 42 Canynge Road (or 44 if there is an internal stair case between the basement and some other part) is highly relevant ? The perp judged that the benefits to him of moving the body even in view of possible...

Returning for a moment to the actual murder, it seems to me that there is one easy theory and any number of complicated ones. After looking at the photos of the 44 Canynge Rd area, and being now satisfied that there is no longer an inside access between Joanna's flat and the communal parts of...

I'm looking for some more concrete information and as we some very competent information hunters here, notably Phillb and MrZhivago, maybe I shall be in luck. I want to have a clear picture of the interior layout of the building in which the flat is situated and, preferably, of the flat itself...

Welcome Phillb. Good point. How big a detour does the Avon Bridge route involve in terms of time and miles ?

Several voices were raised towards the end of the last thread to demand that the police should publicly and unequivocally state their conviction of GR's total innocence. Call me a cynic if you wish, but if I were GR and innocent (as I think he is) I'd being asking them to do no such thing. I'd...