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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #48

    Oh my gosh, this is an maybe a wild thought but what if you're onto something as far as signal goes? Say those Snapchat photos weren't actually uploaded at 2:07 (or was it 2:09?) but earlier and the phone did as you described with repeatedly trying to upload until they finally did? I don't know...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #48

    I knew if I didn't read other comments someone else would've pointed this out before I did. And so much more concisely too. Agree completely. Very interesting point as far as the zoom goes though I'm very curious what type of phone WebSight has. I feel like if its a higher end one with a...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #48

    Haven't read all the replies but I just want to point out something really important with regards to this whole experiment and the zooming and image quality- We do not know what kind of phone Libby had. Mind sharing what type of phone you have? I ask because there is a dramatic variety in...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #48

    This is an interesting point. When I brought up last night the point that we don't know WHEN the audio was recorded I almost mentioned that it could've been before the photo (as I've seen suggested somewhere) but I had totally forgotten the LE had said anything in regards to them potentially...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #48

    I just want to add (and my apologies for quoting you when maybe I should've quoted the original poster but thread was already closed last night when I read it and an aspect has been bugging me). I use Snapchat all the time to swap silly photos with a few friends and family members. Last night I...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #48

    Interesting point. I have never personally believed there was more than one and I do want to raise the question that at that side of the bridge where could the girls have really run to anyway? Or did fear cause them to make the wrong choice by trying to run back across the creek towards where...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #48

    I'm sorry, what? I'm not sure what you're saying or referring to and your link just took me to beginning of thread 46? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #48

    Eh... but that's say 12 years on a drug conviction (and I'm assuming 12 years is a guess since I know depending on the specifics and even the judge and state laws drug sentences can vary wildly) vs life in prison without parole for murder. That's quite a gamble. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #48

    I agree. I just don't really see this happening. There's studies and all (one or two have been linked in previous discussions here) linking drug abuse to violent crime but that's not so much about people seeing the person using (or buying or selling) but more that drugs alter people's judgement...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #48

    So maybe I'm trying too hard but last night when I first read the comment RL made about how maybe in the future no one else would be killed on his property, I had a unique take on it I haven't seen expressed yet by anyone else (and you can look in my history. I've never been pro- RL). Obviously...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #47

    Definitely. I mean is there any worse pain you can possibly cause a parent or grandparent than to murder their child? I'm not even a parent myself but have to think I'd much rather they take me than my child! Definitely agree that using children as pawns is all too common really so perhaps...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #47

    My apologies once again for replying to something before I've read the like 15 pages after it but I've kind of wondered if this played a role in anyway as well. Maybe not even mistaken identity but resemblance. I think it's okay to say this because you can see her in the media thread and there...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #46

    I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you on triggers or overreaction. I think it's the nature of those responses most of us are getting at. They just don't make sense with this crime and IMO are just not generally the type of overreaction that leads to violence against others the vast...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #46

    Agree with a lot of this especially regarding PTSD. I know there's others here who have been in abduction situations. I've never been but I have been in the much too common situation of being sexually assaulted as a child and one thing that helped me personally to finally begin healing (many...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #46

    I seem to remember a statement to that effect somewhere around the time they changed from saying he was just someone they wanted to speak to to when they made him the main suspect. Or maybe it was before that when they were being so careful not to call him a suspect. I get the feeling they...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #46

    Sorry I'm replying to posts from hours ago again but this is a really good point I think. Worth saying that loneliness babble thing can also happen to anyone. After I developed some physical health issues and got a lot more isolated because of them I would catch myself out at the drug store or...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #46

    You and me both Koshka! Really I don't know obviously what the general demographic is here at Web Sleuths but I think one of the most fascinating parts of this group is what a wide variety of people we have here. As much as I'm sure bad things can and do happen on trails and in the woods I...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #46

    Firstly, I'd feel awkward if I didn't say something about the attack, as OT as that part is, so ugh, prayers and love to Sweden. These ramming style attacks are getting to be way too common place. Editing to add, oh sheesh, I just noticed you, Scandinavian Girl are in Sweden yourself. Hope you...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #46

    Agree completely. I will say too jumping off the idea they may have been hung- if it's true one girl died hours later and this left for dead scenario happened (which seems likely) I highly doubt they were hung then. I suppose there's some possibility of it being done wrong in some way to not...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #46

    Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks that way. Several threads ago (sometime last week, week before) I posed the question "Would you guess RL was 77 if you didn't know?" And most everyone who replied said yes. My dad is the same age and looks older I think and many folks say my dad looks...

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