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I still believe Ron Tammen was recruited by the CIA in 1953. And I believe the oddities surrounding his disappearance were staged to make the event look even more perplexing, such as the fish in the bed, etc., to make such plans seem less "covert." From the CIA website, I discovered this...

I'm local to the area and have been following this case. I was wondering if any unidentified DNA (not of the victims) was found at the crime scene?

Yeah, it was a BTK site devoted to the crimes at the time. It's now defunct I hear, but if you use the Internet Time Machine aka the Wayback Machine, you might be able to pull it up. I remember some Websleuthers referencing it a few years back. I have no idea though on what it was called or its...

I use GEDmatch. If you have only tested with only one commercial testing company like 23andMe, FTDNA, or AncestryDNA you can upload your DNA raw data file to see others that match you that test with the other companies. Your match list is much more extensive and long because it includes all the...

The top middle sketch and the bottom right look a lot like him. The one with the giant, padded jockstrap on the bottom left–not so much. Did he actually wear that getup to one of his crimes?

Yeah, I've been wondering that too. Just like the BTK killer, Dennis Rader did. He was a member of a BTK sleuthing community when he was committing his own crimes. I heard he was actively engaged in online discussions about his own murders and gave insights about the murderer (himself). :facepalm:

Ah, bullseye! I wonder if one of the Maggiores fought him and his blood or skin was under their nails?

The thing about the EAR/ONS meetings back then is that there were several that took place in a day over the course of a few days. He could have been at any one of them or just one. I don't think he could have been there for all of them.

Yeah, I was wondering about that too, the speculative part and how they are charging him for the double murders. If he isn't talking, that means they could have withheld evidence all these years since–to help protect the case. I wonder if the ballistics of the of bullets used in their...

Double yes about the finger... and the Denny's factor. I immediately thought about that when he called his victim there years later.

Since he was a cop that committed a lot of these crimes while he was an active officer, could his victims from that period sue the police department for negligence in handling the case since he was amongst them all that time?

Yeah, Trace DNA is "discarded DNA" that can be obtained through garbage, leftover food, other items, etc., or just by touching a door handle or knob.

I concur 100% about everything you stated. HUGE red flags!

He must be mortified knowing the entire world knows he's a serial killer with a super-small penis! Which was the common denominator that his victims shared about him with police. Also, today is April 25th! Happy National DNA Day!

It's possible she served quite a few holiday dinners on that fancy Noritake china set!

I wonder if DeAngelo lurked here on Websleuths or was a member who posted in the threads?

I had heard the Goleta murders had micro amounts of paint chips at the crime scene. Paint that wasn't associated to the victims or their household. The type of paint and its color was said to come from a nearby paint store in a Santa Barbara mall at the time of the killings, leading to the...

The guy in the padded jacket and shirt with the mustache near the far left edge (centered) of the photo. He looks like DeAngelo when he had a mustache.

Yep, Trace DNA. All they had to was get some from his front door knob or a driver side car door and the results matched the other crimes!