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I apologize, up at 3:30 yes due to the massive police presence but as far as we know not up in the 2am window that the call was made.

I’m going with family. Neighbor IMOO isn’t randomly awake at 2:50 to call in a concern when they can even see inside the house. And whatever happened to Sara would have occurred some time before, so it’s not like they were alerted by a scream etc.

Surprised this case hasn’t gained more attention, honestly. Have we become so desensitized to the horrors committed against babies that we fail to notice anymore? Or conversely are we so ill from so many of them that we simply can’t bare to look. I feel the need to “bear witness” to these tiny...

I so too wish someone would do a deep dive and figure out what’s going on, but being that this has happened several times, he’s a boy, a minority, etc MOO on that, I highly doubt anything will be done. Life is so so unfair.

I have been reading from the beginning and have finally colllected several thoughts, forgive me: In regards to three adults, not two, perhaps there was an uncle that lived with the family? This is not uncommon especially in Asian countries to have aunts, uncles, cousins together with their...

Agreed, something is very wrong, be it at home, school, extreme ODD, something.

Mom waived right to preliminary hearing. On to the grand jury. Bail set at $1 million. At least they aren’t playing around. https://www.middlesboronews.com/2023/08/08/mother-charged-in-childs-death-case-heads-to-grand-jury/

All for petitions and such, but it’s too late for precious Elena. If the uncle reported abuse (burning) why didn’t investigators do more to track down mom? I can’t imagine what this sweet baby girl suffered, and sadly doubt that it was the first time. Just the first time it killed her. There’s a...

Heat exhaustion, heat stroke…

I hate to be negative, but if she’s out there somewhere in that terrain, no water, shelter, shoes…she wouldn’t last long, not days that’s for sure. The lack of water is the biggest issue. I know that people in hypothermic states will feel hot and undress, but this is the opposite sort of issue...

Man he is one angry looking, scary guy. I wouldn’t want to get into a car with him if I was working, even though I desperately needed the money. <modsnip> They’re mean and beady and rat-like.

I’m a bit surprised by Kristin Smith, just a little. She doesn’t match their more petite, “elf-like” faces and her disposal was a bit different. I would venture a guess that she knew him on a level the others did not.

Wow they got him guys!!! This needs to be moved under the 6 women in Oregon thread, maybe?

No updates?

It’s actually (sadly) quite common especially when someone is newly out of treatment and still battling a drug addiction to steal from family members before branching outwards to strangers. His dad did good by holding him accountable and contacting LE.

I’m all for science, exploration of the wonders of the world etc, but I can’t keep thinking this is one of those things left well enough alone…as though we didn’t learn our lesson the first time, when the ship actually sank. Hubris will always win out, in us humans….

Dual diagnosis is a reference to mental health and substance abuse, as they often occur together. So, a unit with dual diagnosis would likely be one that could handle both mental health issues and addiction.

Agreed that “Lama” is the last word in her tattoo under the Buddha, which makes sense.

What a freaking failure, it was just a matter of time. Poor Chloe. I think we all knew this was going to be the likely end result pretty quickly, but the confirmation is always so sad. This situation however is what makes my blood boil. He should never have been in the position to harm more...

Apologies, I didn’t have the link earlier. Here you can read about Chloe’s possible connection to a well-known 60 year old cocaine dealer. The fact that she had connections of this sort make me so very concerned for her well-being. He was in custody when she disappeared (for assault), so not...