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The mother was saying she knows where they keep the key that opens the door that goes from the garage into the kitchen. To get access to that door the big garage door would have had to have been open. It was closed when the mother got there, so she couldn't utilize that key. Obviously when...

Where did you guys hear that Johnny and Tiff's brother were friends, is that information that has been shared or do you know either of the parties? Also I don't know where you guys heard that she had no pants on, she had jeans on and an extra pair under her neck for some reason.

I too am a local and extremely frustrated with the local information provided to us pertaining to this case. Even though we are all way too intellegent to believe them when they announce that it was a robbery gone bad, how fair is it of them to report it to be such. This is a small community...

Actually you can get black duct tape at our local Walmart, Menards, Lowes, Home Depot, Meijer.... all of which are fairly close the the residence. I really hope that the announcement that LE made stating that they have concluded that it was a robery gone bad is just a cover up, that maybe they...

The police made a grand announcement on local tv last night stating that they have concluded that it was a robery gone wrong. I don't understand how it could be considered that when the perps brought plastic bags and duct tape with them. Duct tape I can see for restraint, but what were the...

My guess is that they probably drove in off of Pilliod, (the main road) then the house is just a couple in from the entry to the subdivision.

Wondergirl Lisa's car was in the garage, I think JC's mother was referring to Tiffany when she said and "her" car is in the driveway. But yeah when Tiffany said she was talking to Lisa and then He hung up..That makes no sense unless for some reason Lisa was talking on Johnny's phone and then...

Maybe a key is required to disarm the security system.

Maybe the perps found the key and were trying to get it out of Lisa what the key was to..

You can find the full 911 tapes exc ept for the 3rd one on www.toledoonthemove.com and then search 911 tapes.

The toledo blade is reporting that authorites are holding onto their notion that this is a robery gone bad. They are looking into Johnny's criminal past. No mention of Tiffany's obvious connection what-so-ever. Sounds to me like they are barking up the wrong tree!

The pictures above are of Johnny and his Mom.<modsnip>

Story: Murder victim's mother speaks Video: 9-1-1 tapes released in Springfield murder case Monday morning, inside the house on the 2100 block of Longacre Lane, investigators found the bodies of Johnny Clarke, 21, and Lisa Straub, 20. They were tied up with bags over their heads. The...

I didn't know that a show like that even existed what all was revealed on the show now?

what is NG and where do I find that information...I don't know why greivingfriends's first post was removed...maybe he did it himself for his own safety I hope.

Stolly it is keeping me up at night too... your summary is accurate as far as I can tell. Another important thing to think about... You've confronted someone.. you're about to rob and or murder them, you see they were on the phone and the other person on the phone had to have heard the initial...

I think it's Springfield township but under the city of Maumee.

I sure hope the cops have looked into all the stuff us "common folk" have come to conclude. I just hope we hear that there has been an arrest very soon....make us all sleep a little better at nigtht, and at least give the families a little closure. Does anyone know if this Ms. T and Mr. Z are...

What has really bothered me is the car was in the garage... why would they be walking out the door and and be confronted by someone... the would have walked into the garage right??? Unless... their house probably has a entrance door to the garage, maybe that's the door Mr.Z and Ms. T left...