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Maybe they weren't literally planning it for 2 years, but made a decision to escape and it was 2 years before they got their opportunity.

I know why it bothers me (I'm still trying to get through all the threads, so I'm behind!!!) - it's because those pj's were probably a gift from a relative who purchased them based on the children's ages and presumed sizes, but because the kids were so stunted and small, they were swimming in...

While alcohol definitely is a contributing factor, I have to say that, if we assume she was a typical college kid, I would expect her to have some alcohol tolerance. I can't imagine she'd get totally smashed by herself, and wander all over the place alone. If she was barely walking when she...

Totally possible, and would explain being disoriented even if she had come out of it. Who knows what we looked like, stumbling though our hotel. Perhaps surveillance videos would show us also walking with long strides, hunched over, moving fast.

Thanks, it was just awful. And so unexpected, being a middle aged mom who was there for a work conference. And here I thought the roofies were reserved for the young kids! But seriously, it was terrible and I suspect the motive was a quick robbery. My friend and I both vomited within a few...

Not necessarily. When I got roofied in Vegas it was extremely fast and on a full stomach after a large Italian meal. Depends on the drugs used - lots of the home cooked stuff works even faster, I've read. I'm quite certain that my friend (who was also drugged) went down after only drinking...

Sorry if this has already been asked - been skimming the thread but too many pages for a thorough read. But most restaurants and bars have video cameras, especially inside and especially at the bar. Doesn't Tempo have surveillance from inside the bar that might show if HG was there or not?

New to Hannah's case and still catching up, but as I read about what took place that night, a few things jump out at me: Why would HG be waiting outside and LJ goes in alone and orders 2 drinks (and no one saw him bring a drink out to her)? The owner of Tempo and the door ID checker are...

I frequently need to take breaks from WS - too much to take in sometimes. Just returned after such a break only to discover Teghan's case. I read here every day now, and will follow to the end for her, but it's just too much.

Ok, so are people actually suggesting that AK and RS must be guilty because RG didn't implicate them, which he should have done if they were innocent (because that's what a murdering liar would do), but he didn't, therefore it supports their guilt? So lack of being implicated in something...

Can you elaborate? What reason for the size 12's?

Can someone please post this cowgirl/rope pic that is being discussed? I've searched online but can't seem to find it...TIA!

Ever since I read someplace that Ron was known to have narcotic lollipops in the house, I've always thought that the kids were left alone and Haleigh OD'd, thinking it was candy. Misty was guilty because she was supposed to be there, Ron and his family members were guilty for having drugs in the...

And where was the Ramsey's dog that night? At the neighbors? What a lucky intruder indeed!

Speculating as to BR's involvement is no different than speculating about the R's involvement, the housekeeper's involvement, or anything else that has been tossed around over the years. BR is no longer a minor, and he was the only other person known to be in the house that night. And we...

I have believed for some time that BR killed JB and the parents covered it up. I believe that the children were being sexually abused - perhaps BR more than JB. I think that BR had some serious rage issues towards his sister, likely due to the extra attention she received, and perhaps because...

I think that he was sympathetic at first, until the R's threw FW under the bus. Sometime after the murder he put 2 and 2 together and realized that this was no accident, and that the R's may well have been molesting their children, and that they failed to get help for JBR when she was still...

And it could also be that BR's behavior that day (and perhaps even things BR might have said), while in FW's care, is what started him on a path to finding out what really happened to JBR.

But they didn't just have custody, she was their legally adopted daughter, right? So there's nothing that bio mom could have done to regain custody of Erica, since it wasn't a foster situation or a temporary guardianship, or anything like that. Once a child is adopted, the bio parents lose any...